The only reason people hate the red-pill Is due the misogyny. Which is fine of course, since misongy is bad. But the problem is that people think the problem red-pill has is misogyny. So this shows that if you remove the misogyny from the manosphere. People actually wouldn't care about any toxic ideas from the manosphere, since those ideas wouldn't affect women. I got 99 problems, but misogyny ain't one. That's the best analogy I could use to describe my post here.

Since men in the manosphere often point to real struggles, and many of these would still exist even if the misogyny vanished. They would still face pressure to be financially successful, even at the cost of their health or happiness.

They would still be judged for showing vulnerability, since weakness is seen as unattractive in men. They would still be expected to take risks and “make the first move” in relationships.

They would still be told that their value depends on dominance, confidence, and social status. They would still be mocked if they struggled with loneliness, dating, or rejection.

They would still be expected to provide and protect, no matter their circumstances. They would still be criticized if they fell short, while women would rarely face the same stigma.

Again people dislike the red-pill mainly because of its sexism toward women. It has nothing to do with toxic masculinity. So again even if that disappeared, society would continue to ignore or dismiss men’s struggles.

The indifference runs deeper. Many actually encourage these pressures on men. Because they benefit women, the hardships are not only tolerated, but often praised.

Men must be assertive so women don’t have to be. Men must be providers so women can choose freely without equal risk.

People would ironically still be ok with gay being used as an insult on men in this world.

In this way, the cultural script traps men too. And it would persist even in a world where the red-pill was no longer misogynist.

Remove the misogyny. And all of a sudden, men like Andrew Tate, Myron, or Sneako are considered "positive role models" for young boys. And put on the same level as Steve Harvey or the streamer Hasan.

Now you have liberal alpha males. This would be considered the best of both worlds to a lot of people.

So in conclusion, most of society don’t actually reject all red-pill or manosphere ideas. What they reject is the misogyny baked into them. If you strip that away, the cultural expectations on men (confidence, dominance, status, provider role, etc.) are not only tolerated, but often celebrated when framed without hostility toward women.