In a vice article about how this sub "defends rapists" and "denies the oppression if women."

problem_redditor · 2019-05-06T01:26:08+00:00

Essentially, this list is saying that this sub is toxic simply for going against the grain of established feminist dogma.

I think we're doing something right here, guys!

EricAllonde · 2019-05-06T02:10:37+00:00

If you look at where the links go, you get an insight into what triggers feminists about MRA discussions.

For example:

"anti-SJW/feminist/women" links to here, a discussion about how ridiculous it is that Huffington Post is shrieking about how terrible it is that women hold 66% of all student loan debt, when women make up 60% of all college students. This is clearly something we see all the time from feminists: made-up hysteria over a complete non-issue, a fake crisis. But they sure don't like being called out for that.

"equivocating away rape" links to here, a discussion about the fact that sometimes women drink enough that they have no memory of events the next day (i.e. "blackout drunk") but not enough that they are incapacitated or unable to make decisions. (People who have had a problem with alcoholism in the past can be particularly affected in this way). These people give every indication of being coherent and in control, it's only their ability to form memories that has been impaired. The discussion points out the legal reality: that their sex partner will be completely unaware of the fact that they won't remember anything the next day, and also that having sex with someone in that state is not rape, it is legal. But feminists hate facts.

"denying systematic oppression of women" links to here, a post about this article, a perfectly reasonable article examining the complaints made by feminists on the women's march and noting that they don't stand up to scrutiny when the facts are examined objectively.

It's just more of the same: feminists can't stand any discussion of gender issues taking place if it doesn't adhere completely to feminist dogma and worldview. Wherever and whenever such discussion takes place, feminists try desperately to stop it with whatever tools they have available to them: censorship, no-platforming or even violent protests.

Gaki-San · 2019-05-06T02:07:57+00:00

'denying systemic oppression of women'

So ... thinking that we're doing a lot better on this metric than most feminists are willing to allow is somehow a negative? I guess that's the price you pay for being hopeful and not some ideological skag that wants the world to be miserable to suit her ideology, guess.

Like I said to a poster at the Huffington Post ... if women are being systemically oppressed, then we have the world's worst oppressors on the job. Most oppressors fill jails with the oppressed, but women are the exact opposite, and are generally let off much more lightly than men with the same sins. The oppressed generally struggle to get into advanced education (if they get an education at all!), but women make up the majority of university graduates, well above parity. The oppressed generally fill the ranks of the unemployed and see significant bias against them in hiring, but we've got multiple high profile organizations and virtually every western government intentionally hiring women in preference to men. Due to denied health care, poverty, violence, etc. the world's oppressed generally live short, painful, struggle filled lives, but women in the western world out live their mates by a considerable margin and get the lion's share of health spending.

If this is a patriarchy, it's a failed one, and it's been a failed one for decades already.

Water_Bottle_Lord · 2019-05-06T01:24:02+00:00

This entire list is just vice saying how every sub with a majority right-wing community is racist.

Edit: MOST (but not all) of this list. Should have made that clear.

rabel111 · 2019-05-06T10:16:03+00:00

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I had no idea!

The only poster on /r/MensRights I've read defending a rapist was a feminist defending a woman who raped a 14 year old boy! Go figure. Maybe vice should check on their own subscribers!

Its_MaaaaaaaM · 2019-05-06T01:34:07+00:00

Ironic since it’s a guy who wrote the article

X-ray-OH · 2019-05-06T06:51:23+00:00

If Vice is denouncing us, that means we are doing the right thing

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-05-06T09:15:58+00:00

Vice

What it pretends it is: An opinion-piece tabloid desperate to find relevance in non-stupid circles.

What it really is: A lowest of the low propaganda outlet that's not even valuable as toilet paper.

Factushima · 2019-05-06T12:04:40+00:00

I've been here for years and have yet to see this defense of rape.

1LegendaryWombat · 2019-05-06T04:40:08+00:00

Well they post this stuff figuring nobody will ever go look.

As for being anti SJW and anti feminist, both of these are not inherently terrible things. But i've only seen a few people on here i would describe as anti women, as the mods do their jobs.

And in the west, there is no systemic oppression of women. Not that they will ever admit it.

femailhivemind · 2019-05-06T11:50:25+00:00

Feminists and the left and lies and propaganda go together like politicians and corruption. Just look at how many many countries with their devil red journalists now accuse any sort of national pride as nazism. Like vox did to poland on youtube a few days ago.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-05-06T12:11:43+00:00

Here's their logic: feminism supports women and opposes rape. Ergo anyone who criticizes feminism hates women and loves rape.

anon5200 · 2019-05-06T06:39:27+00:00

For the record, im left politically speaking but i can comfortably say the far left has lost its mind on social issues. And to parrot a point made earlier, ive never voted right wing in.my life, never will. Im a strong Bernie Sanders supporter.

ThePigmanAgain · 2019-05-06T09:41:45+00:00

More commonplace than anything else? A lie that can easily be contradicted by taking a look at our front page. But the scum at Vice know that most of the morons reading the article won't be doing that.

McFeely_Smackup · 2019-05-06T16:01:35+00:00

Here's the original article: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8xxymb/here-are-reddits-whiniest-most-low-key-toxic-subreddits

you can check the posts they linked to back up their judgement for yourself, it's some pretty weak sauce.

The "anti-SJW/feminist/women" cesspool one is an old article about women carrying more student loan debt than men, and apparently pointing out that more women attend college than men was misogynistic.

it's always the same with these people, you either toe their propaganda line, or you're a nazi. There's no room for civil discussion or facts.

DJ-Roukan · 2019-05-06T12:15:52+00:00

Where is this guy. Where did he post? I looked well back on that site and could not find it.

I'd like to have a little chat with him...

iCorrosiveArrow · 2019-05-06T16:18:56+00:00

Link?

Sibleyeb · 2019-05-06T17:11:46+00:00

Okay guys, comment on this about how it’s not true and make sure not to exactly prove Vice’s point in the process!! Don’t let self reflection get in the way of your opinions!

Next_Flow1 · 2019-05-07T03:21:32+00:00

Can confirm at least a 100 girls have called me "pro rape" or that I "defend rapists" JUST BELIEVE WOMEN!

creepyguy1999 · 2019-05-08T02:18:06+00:00

I don't read articles from Vice, Buzzfeed, Vox and some other feminist news groups.

Title	In a vice article about how this sub "defends rapists" and "denies the oppression if women."
Author	Water_Bottle_Lord
Upvotes	148
Comments	58
Date	May 6, 2019 1:21 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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