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What are your thoughts on OVERT contracts?

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February 24, 2017
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My wife asked me to run out for a shamrock shake the other night. I said "If I get you a shamrock shake, I'm blowing my load all over your face tonight..."

She laughed, I waited 5 minutes, got the shake, came back.

Later, she's blowing me (shark week), she pulls it out of her mouth and paints her face with load.

I thought she would have said no! She didn't and then even put all over her face herself.

I didn't really want to go out at 10 pm to get her shake so I made this seemingly over the top proposition. She'll swallow it but hates the mess on her face...

Now, hey, I'm still learning here, so I'd like some opinions on whether or not this OVERT contract was a bad thing...


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Title What are your thoughts on OVERT contracts?
Author Spaw-1-4-5
Upvotes 8
Comments 28
Date 24 February 2017 02:47 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/206483
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[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sometimes my wife wants to do some crazy stuff with me, but feels shy about it. If I "make a deal" with her, it gives her a reason not to feel slutty. That may have been what happened with your wife.

Negotiating desire can be fun when your wife already has a high amount of desire for you. If you're unattractive its counterproductive

[–]A_RexRED KNIGHT7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with the sentiment. Done sparingly by a guy she wants to fuck is fun and gives her an excuse to do a different slutty thing she probably would have done anyway.

Negotiating desire kinky acts can be fun when your wife already has a high amount of desire for you

FTFY

[–]mrpthrowa6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Prostitution (sexual favours in return of something) is a fantasy of a lot of women. You can tap into that fantasy and that can be powerful.

Don't make a habit of it - make it explicit that you're playing this game ("take this you fucking whore", or some such). It can turn her into a fucking wild one if done right.

[–]2ndalRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Eh, can't negotiate desire... but you can negotiate an obligation, which is what that was. Personally, I want my woman to be sexually open and willing because she finds me attractive and wants to please me, not because I buy her junk food when she asks.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

one point doesn't mark a trend. try this three times and let us know your success rate.

[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

Having to do anything in exchange for sex is inherently beta. Your wife would have blown an alpha male and let him bust all over her face even without getting the milkshake.

You got what you wanted, but I wouldn't consider it a step in the right direction. Ultimately, you want to be able to get blown and cum on her face without having to do some petty shit first.

[–]RBuddDwyerRed Beret8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Having to do anything in exchange for sex is inherently beta. Your wife would have blown an alpha male and let him bust all over her face even without getting the milkshake.

No, there is something else going on here. They weren't negotiating. It sounds more like flirting. Negotiating sex is where the guy gives up something big for begrudging starfish duty sex. Letting a guy cum on your face is a very submissive act. It's a sign she is already attracted to you. A woman would never let a guy blow a load on her face as the result of negotiated desire.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

yes. glad it worked out for you but be careful not to make bribing a habit.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I love how guys come in and redefine things.

Overt contract indeed

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Talk, follow through.

What more do you want?

I hope this came out as some kind of flirty conversation, and not a negotiation, followed by beta running for a shake.

If you wanted internet high fives, don't get the shake, still blow in her face,

[–]InChargeManRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How about try:

"Good idea, you're gonna need your throat numbed with what you have in-store tonight."

In this way you are not negotiating, but you are also providing comfort and being her provider.

[–]BobbyPeru1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not a fan of the trade idea, but I have used it in fantasy situation. Example: she's the cleaning lady who comes by in a slutty lingerie and heels. It's playing on the fantasy without activating the anti-slut defense.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What's she up for when you wave a Big Mac under her nose?

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

keep working. some will say pure beta, some will say great, I say it's a journey.

Next, time, tell her sure and see where it goes. Remember some Alpha- some Beta, and @ the right level of dread, she will blow you to keep you happy without bringing it up

[–]HoveyC1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

she's sharking.

You hint (strongly) you want something sexual if you do her a favor. She follows through, enthusiastically.

Sounds like you're on the right track. Don't overcomplicate things. Keep up the good work.

[–]fakefalse1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

It worked, but the tactic is not sound.

I would suggest that you avoid negotiations. It reduces the exchange and makes your wife your prostitute and makes you her John. You want her to be your own personal whore.

I think this event helped break the ice. Now make it into something you lead/guide her towards. It's more organic that way.

[–]RBuddDwyerRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So, let me get this straight: you wife finds you so attractive that all you have to do to get her to suck you off with a facial is to get her a fucking milkshake?

[–]chief_slap_ahoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That is not overt contract, overt contracts are not spoken off. You told her you would do A for B and that's what happened.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How would this post have been written had she not let you blow on her face?

Is this a success story only by chance?

[–]KyfhoMyoba0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Desire cannot be negotiated. Overtly or covertly.

Demonstrate, don't explicate. Women talk, men do.

Acta, non verba.



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