My prediction was correct, domain registrars are the new arm of censorship. Gab.ai gets ultimatum. Delete content or lose your domain.

cherryCanSuckMyDick · 2017-09-04T23:31:32+00:00

The day the open internet died.

Every day gets a little darker now

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-09-04T22:04:28+00:00

Well you know what I might say:

"Free Speech is better than Fascism"

Censorship will continue and eventually the Red Pill will just sort of "disappear" and no one will remember after enough time passes as history is erased.

selfsufficientnigga · 2017-09-05T13:41:21+00:00

They have created a 'conceptual superweapon' in form of 'hate speech', a meaningless weasel-word that makes the accused party insta-guilty. This is exactly how the preparations for the removal of Jews were started in Germany, by making accusations of 'being a Jew' a conceptual superweapon.

0xdada · 2017-09-05T00:44:03+00:00

Your prediction was correct? Here's me last week:

You guys would lose your minds if you knew how deep this rabbit hole goes. Become a man who has strong personal networks, and who can handle being doxed.

The blacklist technology for conservative and ever-expanding definition of so-called "alt-right" is already in place, it's just a matter of insulating the people who run it from accountability. For that, they need a democrat in the whitehouse, or deniability.

Google and DNS providers vs. nazi's was just the test run. The consequences weren't serious, and so the next round of should begin soon, right before long weekends to limit the news cycle exposure.

Note the date of the notice that gab.ai recieved is Friday, Sept 1st, the friday of the long weekend.

hjkl4life · 2017-09-05T09:58:46+00:00

If TRP and trp.red is taken down tomorrow, where do we communicate?

Maybe we need to set up Keybase.

destraht · 2017-09-05T05:28:36+00:00

Everyone should know about Namecoin so when the moment(s) come(s) that we can each make a choice to seek out alternative name lookup services. I think that we should each and all except that a day may come in our lives when we won't be able to access the best sites with the standard name lookup service and that we will need to use an alternative. TOR and Firefox have been working together for a long time to integrate TOR browser (modified Firefox) custom features right into Firefox so that it doesn't require custom modifications. Chrome might be a lot slicker with updating and overall speed for a long time but Firefox is the only browser that is going to offer the profound alternatives. In the future if you are doing something non-standard it is likely that it will be with some manner of Firefox build.

victor_knight · 2017-09-05T08:26:53+00:00

The state is all-powerful (when it wants to be). People often seem to forget this.

redpillschool · 2017-09-04T21:48:05+00:00

I honestly didn't think it would happen this quickly. I made the prediction 10 days ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/theredpillright/comments/6vyo7q/censorship_on_the_internet/

bkk123 · 2017-09-05T08:59:07+00:00

Meh top level domains aren't all alike.

While .com .net .org are free for all - no matter the content, random .xyz TLD registrars can set their own requirements, which often excludes certain kinds of content from porn to gambling etc.

If you don't know that and think you can do whatever you could be in for a tough surprise.

You can usually find the terms of the administrative owner of the TLD via nic.xyz

MentORPHEUS · 2017-09-05T03:38:11+00:00

Freedom of speech, particularly in the political realm, has always been important to me. Therefore, I tend to take cases of bona-fide censorship seriously, but by the same token, take a very dim view of genuinely offensive and/or rule-breaking people crying "Waaah, censorship!" when a private company wants no part of hosting or distributing someone's message or content.

In the case of Gab.ai, they had their corporate address listed as a unit at the Scotchollow Apartment Homes. This is required of everyone registering a website, everywhere.

The company also received a formal complaint about content posted on the site, which is probably why the address situation came to their attention. Had Gab.ai not responded to the address correction inquiry, the domain company's path of least resistance would be to remove the content on this basis.

Since they did respond, the domain company pursued the matter of the specific content, which Gab.ai challenged and the company upheld after review.

I looked at the company's TOS as linked in the notice; they are relatively strict and probably prefer to do business with milquetoast vanilla companies. There are plenty of companies that will gladly do business with adult and controversial content providers, they usually charge a little more. If this multi-national company is walking away from their business, I don't believe it's because they're beholden to SJW control, it's because they're beholden to the almighty AUS$.

It's hard to go much further without knowing the content in question. Right now it looks less like censorship, than a company exercising their discretion over who to associate with, and Gab.ai not owning their shit and crying victim over problems they brought on themselves.

stonecats · 2017-09-05T09:20:20+00:00

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/17/google-play-bans-twitter-alternative-gab-ai-app-over-hate-speech/

LiteSoul · 2017-09-05T04:25:17+00:00

The comments on that medium post are quite interesting

JamesSkepp · 2017-09-05T07:14:55+00:00

My prediction was correct, domain registrars are the new arm of censorship.

We'll see. So far gab.ai, voat, 4chan, TRP, trp.red and majority of alt-right/conservative websites are unscathed.

The link in title is a bit overreaching. The content of complaint was "obscene" and did break the rules. It was not "free speech" related.

gbwment · 2017-09-05T19:27:52+00:00

Perhaps the solution may be to treat domain registrars as common carriers and bar them from taking down customer domains based on anything that's legal in their country. Similar thing may need to be done for web hosting, since without web hosting and domain registrations a viable (read, independent with free speech) internet presence can't be established nowadays.

r-bitcoin · 2017-09-05T08:37:03+00:00

You guys should check out zeronet.io

Riael · 2017-09-05T13:30:12+00:00

Gab has banned users for spamming, making death threats to the President, posting revenge porn, and doxing among others.

These things happen there?

I'm signing up now!

Edit: Damn, the mods are doing a good job.

LOST_TALE · 2017-09-06T01:26:02+00:00

That was fast. I remember Stefan Molyneux making a serious call to stop the giving away of ICANN.

yeah. Good call.

PM_ME_IF_U_SUCKING · 2017-09-04T22:52:48+00:00

So...a private company doing things the way it wants? Fuck the free market, right guys? Guys?

AlexKingstonsGigolo · 2017-09-04T22:47:36+00:00

So, Gab agreed to certain terms and conditions, violated them, and is now upset someone noticed and is holding them to their word? I'm not feeling a lot of sympathy. I'm not feeling any sympathy, actually.

SAPPHIREAURA · 2017-09-05T02:52:15+00:00

A) There's always the dark web/deep web; tor. B) I lean right and I'll admit daily stormer has been a guilty pleasure once in a while, but where is the line between hate speech and free speech. On some level a lot of this comes off as defending websites that spew a lot of hateful garbage, yea yea its free speech but c'mon did you not read the article that was posted about the girl that was run over before the site got shut down? Shock factor gone a little too far not to mention how these sites radicalize losers. Extremism on the left or right is trash.

My point is it's not like these are just any old sites that are getting shut down, let's be real. Should child porn(abuse) be legal? As freedom of speech. or NAMBLA....Sane judgment people or an ISIS forum as free speech

Drakko24 · 2017-09-05T04:33:56+00:00

how do you cross-post?

ithaqua_of_ice · 2017-09-05T09:25:52+00:00

We need to identify a registrar that has some balls and principles: https://www.icann.org/registrar-reports/accredited-list.html

empistolado · 2017-09-05T14:52:52+00:00

you can make your own dns server, get all the red pilld people using it and have any domain name u want

redpillschool · 2017-09-07T14:44:40+00:00

This is not a new worry and distrust of ICANN power goes back to the earliest internet.

Alternatives include: OpenNIC (easy DNS replacement) and namecoin (work-in-progress).

Many of the decentralized social networks don't rely on DNS at all. It's sort of silly to think this is a new thing. Companies have been using DNS to shut down websites since before Napster.

I haven't looked at Diaspora in a long time and I can't remember how it works but IIRC it's a distributed thing where you can buy devices like a raspberrypi and just plug them in and mesh up. And there are things like scuttlebutt.io which are very promising.

Edit: looks like OpenNIC proxies out namecoin addresses. Last time I setup namecoin resolution (a looong time ago) it was much more complex.

tropzumuch · 2017-09-11T17:53:18+00:00

We need an alternative place to come together when the day comes.

I will subscribe via mail to TRP, but I'm not sure if that will help. We need something else.

gbfyt3er24d · 2017-09-05T03:21:53+00:00

I'm sorry but how does this work? I've read that a few days ago another website was taken down and now I'm just lost...

Ltactics1 · 2017-09-05T13:07:18+00:00

This isn't a breach of free speech. In fact, it is speech. If companies don't want white supremacists on their shit, that's their right.

goldaxis · 2017-09-05T14:51:29+00:00

Now you know why the left toiled so hard to gain control over the tech companies. If they can't control your speech through law, they'll just do it through corporations.

killking72 · 2017-09-05T12:57:07+00:00

This was me right after the whole Daily Stormer shit went down.

Tried explaining to other people on Reddit that "net neutrality" is being pushed by certain companies to take the control out of ISPs hands, while sticking the entirety into theirs.

That's why I don't support net neutrality it in the least.

In this situation I can't say who has and doesn't have the right to control the internet. ISPs, or all service providers beneath them(hosts, etc.). It's only right to support a bill that removes all of these avenues of control, or we'll get the normal way the government and people act. Solve one part of the problem and leave it at that.

We'll never have a push to force companies other than ISPs to stay neutral.

Hell. Part of me wonders who's been throwing around all the money and giving exposure to the current version of net neutrality🤔🤔🤔

njullpointer · 2017-09-05T16:59:38+00:00

The internet has been dying under the weight of corporate interests for the last twenty years or more. Ever since e.g. coca cola set up a website and established a "web presence" (a word so out of date that nobody even uses it any more), the previously open web became more and more constrained to follow the demands of an increasingly puritan set of businessmen and women who sought to make the domain of nerds and enthusiasts into the next best place to sell you a burger.

It naturally follows that any public place conform to "public sensibilities", which means that freedom of speech must be fought for the same it is fought for everywhere else, only with now corporate interests being the guardians of this previously wild wonderland, it's trivial to silence the opposition.

V1SoR · 2017-09-05T09:56:32+00:00

Can any of you "freedom fighters" explain to me, where do you draw the line between "freedom of speech" and antisocial degeneracy? I mean sure, from a third party perspective it may seem that taking down a site for something like this is an overkill, but something's telling me if that were your daughter or sister on that "funny meme", most of you filthy hypocrite cunts would have reacted vastly differently.

Title	My prediction was correct, domain registrars are the new arm of censorship. Gab.ai gets ultimatum. Delete content or lose your domain.
Author	redpillschool
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Comments	194
Date	September 4, 2017 9:46 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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