TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

  • Subreddits

      Popular

    • /r/askTRP
    • /r/TheRedPill
    • /r/MarriedRedPill
    • /r/MensRights
    • /r/MGTOW
    • /r/PurplePillDebate
    • /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
    • /r/seduction
    • /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
    • Other

      • /r/AllPillDebate
      • /r/AlreadyRed
      • /r/altTRP
      • /r/AntiFeminists
      • /r/askFDS
      • /r/askMRP
      • /r/askRPC
      • /r/becomeaman
      • /r/BlackPillScience
      • /r/Chadfish
      • /r/Divorce_Men
      • /r/EverydayMisandry
      • /r/ExRedPill
      • /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
      • /r/FeminismStopsWhen
      • /r/GEOTRP
      • /r/MalePsychology
      • /r/Male_Studies
      • /r/MenSupportMen
      • /r/MGTOW2
      • /r/MuslimRedPill
      • /r/newTRP
      • /r/PussyPass
      • /r/PussyPassDenied
      • /r/RedPillBooks
      • /r/RedPillParenting
      • /r/RedPillWives
      • /r/RedPillWomen
      • /r/RedPillWorkplace
      • /r/RPChristians
      • /r/ThankTRP
      • /r/TheRedPillStories
      • /r/trpGAME
      • /r/TRPOffTopic
      • /r/TrueBlackPillMGTOW
      • /r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre
  • Blogs

      Popular

    • A Voice for Men
    • Dalrock
    • Good Looking Loser
    • Heartiste
    • Married Man Sex Life
    • Return of Kings
    • The Power Moves
    • The Rational Male
    • The Spearhead
    • Other

      • Alpha Game
      • Archwinger
      • Artful Prudence
      • Black Label Logic
      • Caleb Jones
      • Captain Capitalism
      • Corporate Machiavelli
      • Days of Game
      • Deep Strength
      • Dicipres
      • Donal Graeme
      • Female Misogynist
      • Free Northerner
      • Gaming My Wife
      • Hawaiian Libertarian
      • Illimitable Men
      • In Mala Fide
      • Justice for Men and Boys
      • Kill Your Inner Loser
      • KillToParty
      • Krauser PUA
      • LaidNYC
      • Mensactivism
      • NO MA'AM
      • Omega Virgin Revolt
      • Pook's Mill
      • Random Xpat Rantings
      • Red Pill Theory
      • Red Pill Wifery
      • RedPillDad
      • RedPillDoctor
      • Rian Stone
      • RooshV
      • Seasons of Tumult and Discord
      • Sigma Frame
      • The Feminine Woman
      • The Futurist
      • The Masculine Principle
      • The Modern Man
      • The New Modern Man
      • The Obsidian Files
      • The Private Man
      • The Red Pill Room
      • The Red Quest
      • The Rules Revisited
      • Troy Francis
      • Wintery Knight
      • Woujo
      • Young Man Red Pill
  • Books
  • Dictionary
  • @TRParchive
  • Support

So, my flat mate informed last night I need to get "educated" and shared this with me today...

scottishredpill

August 28, 2013
32 upvotes
/r/TheRedPill
Archived from /r/TheRedPill

r/TheRedPill is a subreddit for discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

TheRedArchive is an archive of Red Pill subreddits and blogs. This page is our copy of the original post.

/r/TheRedPill archive

Download the post

Want to save the post for offline use on your device? Choose one of the download options below:

PDF TXT EPUB
Support the archive

Everything here was supposed to disappear. Banned subreddits, deleted communities, cancelled blogs — much of what is archived here survives nowhere else.

It stays free — no paywall, no account — for the next man who comes looking, the way it was free for you.

I pay for the servers, the storage and the bandwidth myself. If you want this record still standing in ten years, become one of the people who keeps it online.

Support the archive

Share
Share Tweet Reddit Email
Post Information
Title So, my flat mate informed last night I need to get "educated" and shared this with me today...
Author

scottishredpill

Upvotes 32
Comments 63
Date August 28, 2013 11:05 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1l92q1/so_my_flat_mate_informed_last_night_i_need_to_get/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/so-my-flat-mate-informed-last-night-i-need-to-get.233277
https://theredarchive.com/post/233277
Red Pill terms in post
the red pill
Top posts by scottishredpill

Night game, things I forgot after 16 months in an LTR

230 upvotes
June 29, 2015
/r/TheRedPill

The Archetypal Modern Woman

130 upvotes
August 16, 2013
/r/TheRedPill

The Eternal Solipsism of the Female Mind

115 upvotes
September 26, 2013
/r/TheRedPill

Pro Tip: Next time you're out gaming, tell chicks you're a convicted murderer...

83 upvotes
October 2, 2013
/r/TheRedPill

Learning to behave

80 upvotes
December 31, 2013
/r/TheRedPill

Happy 38th! How I got AMOGed...

77 upvotes
June 30, 2013
/r/TheRedPill

[FR] An evening in a rock bar (f-close)

74 upvotes
July 24, 2013
/r/seduction

The one time I tried to play Cupid...

71 upvotes
June 26, 2013
/r/TheRedPill

Comments

[–]TehGinjaNinja 87 points88 points89 points 12 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

The assertion in this FAQ that privilege is something wholly conferred by social status rather than by any individual accomplishment is a perfect example of the fundamental bigotry of feminism. Men are never treated as individuals by feminism, rather they treated as a see less whole, a borgified collective. Power and status weilded by one man is cast as being weilded by all men, and crimes committed by one man are cast as being committed by all.

This tendency to see people not as individuals but simply as representatives of their class, religion, race, or gender is the essence of all forms of bigotry. You should tell your flat mate to stop being such a bigot. You should remind her that not all men benefit from the power weilded by the few men who have it. You remind her that carrying on about 'male privilege' while fewer men than women are winning college degrees, and more men than women face unemployment, is asinine and offensive.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Three fucking cheers for this guy!

[–]TehGinjaNinja 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Lol, I think this just got me banned from /r/AskWomen

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bigots gonna bigot

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Dont worry being banned from /r/AskWomen isnt a big loss.

[–]TehGinjaNinja 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not worried, I'm amused. I haven't even been lurking there much lately, and I haven't commented there in weeks (maybe months). I'm amused that they've clearly banned me for something I wrote in another subreddit.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Those bitches are clearly reconnoitering up in here to see how we communicate, which is a cute endeavour for them as most of them won't be able to wrap their heads around our viewpoints and thus will probably get rather pissed off and just give up in rage, sticking to their mainstream rad-fem beliefs and learning nothing. Hey ladies I'm not on your sub and I've never posted on it, but while you're being fucking bigots ban me too OK? I wouldn't want to accidentally stumble upon your crappy sub. Cool :)

[–]TehGinjaNinja 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, it's really not worth getting worked up about.

[–]kratol1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Dem mainstream radicals.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking Cheers! Fucking Cheers! Fucking Cheers!

[–]puaSenator 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

Whatever happened to good old fashioned feminism that was about equality? I liked that shit.

Now when I say I'm not a feminist I get stares. It's not that I'm against women, it's just modern feminism isn't about equality, it's about oppressing men so they can add more advantages for themselves. They want men to remain disposable, maintain their positions of privilege, and remove any male position of privilege.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Whatever happened to good old fashioned feminism that was about equality?

Feminism was never about equality. In it's most pure form, it was about equal rights, while ignoring that women had less responsibility and less disposability. Feminism was a female supremacy movement from the start.

[–]lachiemx 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Top work mate

[–]mootbrute 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Be careful using the word "equality". I think you mean that you believe in procedural fairness over the equality of the outcome. E.g. Women should have an equal opportunity to serve on the board of a company based on merit, vs. the company should be forced to have some minimum quota of women, because equality. The second scenario isn't equality. It's bullcrap.

[–]RG68 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Great way of putting it, I like that: procedural fairness over the equality of the outcome.

[–]mootbrute 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The credit is due to Thomas Sowell. He says it many places. I came across it first in this book. This is a great book, as it spells out the assumptions about human nature one is required (at least subconsciously) to make to have certain political beliefs.

[–]tmarkows 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The first example you put is an example of true equality the second is not its actually equity. Which is conveniently conflated with the term equality. What interest groups want is equity, to raise their own pedestals and give them an advantage that gives them perceived equality not true equality.

[–]TehGinjaNinja 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It was replaced in the 1960s with second wave feminism, which declared all men rapists and oppressors.

[–]randomtask2005 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"when I was a feminist, I was protesting for the opportunity to be considered 'as good as' a man. We didn't want more rights. We didn't want vengeful laws. We just wanted the same opportunity to prove ourselves. i am disappointed in what my gender has become. They act how I feel now in my old age...crippled."

~my grandmother

[–]TehGinjaNinja 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i am disappointed in what my gender has become.

Your grandmother sounds awesome. That being said it's always worth noting that most women don't identify as feminists, in fact a 2009 poll by CBS news had only 24% of female respondents claiming to be feminists.

[–]1thrownaway_MGTOW 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whatever happened to good old fashioned feminism that was about equality? I liked that shit.

It never actually existed. It was just a facade.

[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ask her what would be the outcome of hiring hundreds of thousands of men with PhDs around the world to sit in universities and imagine up arguments as to how men are treated poorly relative to women. Suggest to her that those ideas dreamed up by such, ahem, academics, would then be taught to younger men, some of whom would be encouraged by law and financial incentives to buy into the theories promoted.

My guess is after 40 years of such stuff, you would get wider circulation and acceptance of materials like this: http://i.imgur.com/psua2KN.jpg

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The women I interact with enjoy and appreciate my company, and they're empowered to make their own choices and have chosen me. So if you're telling me I need to change you're really trying to impose your own views on other women and deny their agency. Check your own privilege."

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

surely they have a discussion of female privilege and what should be done about it... nope. there's no such thing as female privilege, only "benevolent sexism", and they apparently see no problem with it.

http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2008/02/09/faq-female-privilege/

apparently, women receive no institutional privileges. when women win the vast majority of child custody cases, it's not an institutional privilege; no, that's still oppressive of women because it assumes that women are only good for child care. when women are given easier punishments in the criminal justice system, it's not an institutional privilege. when public education is altered to benefit girls at the detriment of boys, it's not an institutional privilege. when far more government grants are provided for medical research of female ailments than male ailments, it's not an institutional privilege. when police departments assume that men are aggressors in domestic dispute calls, it's not an institutional privilege. the existence of female domestic violence shelters and the non-existence of male domestic violence shelters is not an institutional privilege for women. all of this is apparently oppressive to women, even though these changes were brought to fruition through shady feminist lobbying and political coercion over the last few decades.

basically, "institutional privileges for women are not privileges because I say so. There's nothing wrong with exploiting institutional advantages as long as i give it a nice name." the power of denial amazes me.

[–]DasWood 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, it should be noted that, while men have what’s called male privilege that doesn’t mean that there must logically be a “female privilege” counterpart. This is because, although many strides towards equality have been made over the years, women as a class have not yet leveled the playing field, much less been put in a position of power and authority equivalent to that which grants institutional power to men as a class.

Basically the article states females do not have privilege because women still have areas where they are not at least equal to men. Or to put that shorter more succinct way. Women have not achieved gender superiority and dominance over men in every field therefore it isn't privilege.

[–]sandboarding 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I'm curious on how that conversation turned out.

Those articles are incredibly skewed, and some of the checklist points are just seeing things where there isn't anything.

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

It turned into a 5 of them against me argument on Facebook >.< I bailed once they started calling me a misogynist.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You need new flatmates, fuck living with those kind of people.

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I prefer living with girls, I don't have to do much housework ;)

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I just don't do any.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[–]kratol0 points 12 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Bottom-type gay roomates also do the housework.

[–]AbraxianAeon -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True, but you gotta buttfuck them good an' hard before they're ready for that.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like not doing housework too. I hate feminists more though. I'd rather live in messy peace than be preached at for having imaginary privileges for having a cock by a person without a cock in my own home. Funny, because white guys get no leg ups in anything, we're probably the most oppressed by the government, albeit indirectly - being a white male alone never got you any support, help, job, placement or sympathy.

[–]Fatvod 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude if there's one thing I've learned it's don't get into fights with people you have to live with. Even if you don't agree with their views. Makes shit difficult.

[–]bantam83 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the article:

all people are both privileged and non-privileged in certain aspects of their life

Oh, so even women have privilege, so there is such a thing as female privilege. I'm glad she's willing to acknowledge that.

From a linked article:

Don't women have "female privilege"? Short answer: No

Oh...

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Had an interesting conversation with her, which I will discuss more later. However, I thought I would share this and get your guys thoughts.

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Also shared this: http://amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

What on earth started this conversation?

If someone were to use "privilege" to mean "unearned benefits for individuals in specific contexts", then no one could have a problem with it. We could talk about:

  • female privileges in the workplace
  • male privileges in the workplace
  • white privileges at university
  • black privileges at university
  • gay privileges at bars
  • straight privileges at bars
  • American-born privileges regarding medical care
  • Canadian-born privileges regarding medical care
  • etc.

Instead, modern western feminists have transformed the notion of "privilege" into a targeted weapon for silencing the specific demographics they deem hostile to their goals.

Some feminist bigots even take it a step further by outrageously equating "having a particular privilege" with "oppressing people who don't have that particular privilege". If you adopt that attitude, anyone who is different from anyone else in ways they did not "earn" is an oppressor in some way, because literally every difference inherently comes tied with privileges. As the only person on this planet with the unearned privilege to choose whom my body has sex with, I should probably apologize for the oppression.

In short: As a targeted weapon, it's an absurdly toxic concept. Otherwise, it's fine.

[–]sexcauldron1 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was pretty much going to reply with this distinction, thank god for the redpill hivemind. If privilege is not a universal concept, than what value does it have? Oh thats right, it has value in stigmatizing white heterosexual males! White women will begrudgingly admit to having white privilege, but you better believe that they cling to "oppressed class" status by virtue of being women. Shameful

[–]Bonkzzilla 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're not reading it already, you would probably get a few laughs out of the /tumblrinaction sub, which is devoted to spotlighting and mocking this sort of social justice warrior nonsense.

[–]SeekingAlpha 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We ought to compile a useful list of "non-white male privileges".

This could be an effective strategy for dealing with confrontation (presuming you're willing to take the bait, accept the attacker's frame and attempt to use their own logic against them).

I don't spend much time thinking about these things (because I'm a privileged white-male...amirite!?) and my mind struggles to come up with anything more than vagaries (which are not useful in an argument). Could someone share some good examples (policy/rule-based and not anecdotal)?

[–]iggybdawg 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a circumcised American, I shut them down with something like "Western society universally condemns cutting your genitals, but promotes cutting mine!" And then grab the popcorn for the fireworks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would you want to accept their frame? It assumes that equality is desirable, which is IMO already losing the game. I think if you want to try and argue with a hamster using facts put the emotional frame something like, "101 things men could complain about if they were as whiny as feminists." That way arguing makes them come off undesirable. I'm sure someone else can put it better than that though.

[–]SeekingAlpha 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Presuming I choose to follow the frame...I'm still looking for just one concrete example that would hit hard. And not something like "look at divorce/family court".

[–]FortunateBum 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least there's some real examples there.

[–]Pushnikov 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

  1. On average, I am not interrupted by women as often as women are interrupted by men.

... Lol. Ya, ok. I don't know how many times I have to tell a woman to let me finish my damn sentence. Only to have to repeat myself afterwards.

[–]puck_mar1n 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I believe that if a roommate showed me that I'd make it my mission to be as chauvinistic as possible in order to make her feel so uncomfortable she was forced to move.

I'd have a ton of fun with it.

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am already, but it's in my nature to tease people, so takes it as a joke.

[–]phantom_ranger 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agree and Amplify here - "yeah I'm privileged but I guess everyone can't be born this handsome"

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha, perfect.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you tell her to go fuck herself?

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry but the only society wide privilege I've ever seen goes to women and minorities. Affirmative action, discriminatory clubs for every group except mine, being told I'm a potential rapist, and on top of all that being told to check my privilege.

[–]bullyfootrookie 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Time to move I think.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Nothing to dramatic and not a reason to move. Especially if she keeps the kitchen clean.

I wonder what she says about girls /u/scottishredpill is bringing home ;)

Privilege is: About how society accommodates you. It’s about advantages you have that you think are normal. It’s about you being normal, and others being the deviation from normal.

Women have no idea. None of it. A month after men/courts/govs started treating women exactly how men treat other men, suicide rates would even out.

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As she kept saying to me, I can't see the privilege because I benefit from it. What she doesn't realise is she is basically describing herself and her "female privilege".

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

precisely

women are funny

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are, I love the lil rascals. Well, the ones I am attracted to anyway.

[–]FortunateBum 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So deciding what a group of friends does on the weekend and getting bank loans?

I'm always shocked when women give examples of this "male privilege" thing. They're either trivial or ridiculous or both.

No one gets bank loans.

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I find it hilarious that someone would use this as an "educational" tool. Like you would just read the list and suddenly say, "Oh my god. I never recognized all my privilege. I will be sure to check it from now on. I apologize for everything I've said up until now," and not say it sarcastically.

[–]anotherbluemarlin 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just can't bring myself to read this kind of stuff anymore.

[–]DingFuckinDong 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These pages are so fucking tedious. Any basic rhetoric course should tell you that less is more.

Though I realize that it's on purpose, or at least unconsciously designed to mislead, misdirect and mystify. They probably realize if they condensed it to two or three paragraphs your averge joe would be able to sniff out the bullshit.

Browse all authors
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter