[Off-Topic] Feminist Influence on Homosexuality

RedPillSafe · 2014-10-28T14:56:15+00:00

"Gender is a fluid concept"
"People are born rigidly gay"

...and some people are "more equal than others".

Seems clear to me.

OsoFeo · 2014-10-28T15:16:06+00:00

The irony is that in the shit-show that passes for modern heterosexual relationships, ones best protection is being gay.

In my 20s and 30s I was often wistful about being "left out" of society. Then I learned about the kind of horrors many straight men go through at the hands of women, who are incentivized in this society to behave as badly as their imagination will allow them. Now I am truly grateful to have avoided all of that.

My one regret is lack of children -- but apparently if you're a man it is pretty easy to lose them and in any case the state just uses them as a means to inflict abuse upon men.

MorpheusGodOfDreams · 2014-10-28T14:55:24+00:00

its actually more simple than that. Instead of legal equality, feminists want "sameism," the belief that men and women are interchangeable instead of complementary. What follows is an acceptance of highly feminine men and same sex partnerships. All in the name of fighting the patriarchy. To fight it, we don't have to hate gays, but just understand that men and women are different.

F9R · 2014-10-28T17:31:23+00:00

This reminds me of an anecdote. I'm a guy in my early 20's. Back in '05, I was a troublesome 7^th grader. The kind of kid who didn't give a fuck about rules and was extremely edgy, in retrospect because I had no character and just sort of bounced through life from one conflict to the next.

Anyways, I had just learned the word "fag" that year. What it means, how to use it, etc., and suddenly it was a new edgy, cool insult. Like many kids do, I over-used the new word and for the few weeks after I started using it, "fag" had become synonymous with anything negative. "Wow, what a fag." "Hey, don't be such a fag." "Haha, look at that fag over there." You know, just being a dick.

So one day I got called into the principal's office, and he told me that he wanted to talk to me about my usage of the word "fag". At the time I had thought that it was just like any other "bad word", so I thought that he was just going to reprimand me and send me on my way. Instead, he sat me down, explained the blue pill version of sexuality, and asked me if I had felt any homosexual feelings in the past, since apparently closeted gay people use the word "fag" a lot, or some bullshit. When I said no, he said that feelings of denial were common, and he urged me to come out of the closet, saying that I was in a "safe space".

After like fifteen minutes of this I told him to fuck off and that I had no interest in fucking a dude, and that was final. Still, I left his office that day as a confused 7^th grader. For years I wondered if maybe the principal was right. I certainly didn't feel gay, but how did I know that I wasn't just in denial? Wouldn't a gay person in denial not feel gay? I was confused as hell and my developing sense of identity was nebulous to say the least.

When I swallowed the red pill last year, everything became clear. No, I am not gay. I have no interest in fucking a guy, and that's that. It's literally that simple. So, thanks for that TRP.

should_ · 2014-10-28T20:23:12+00:00

I'm a gay terper and this is completely true.

People have to stop essentially straight-shaming their kids for not having a more open-minded personality. And you're also right about actual male homosexuality not being something one can change at will.

RedPillSafe · 2014-10-28T15:42:11+00:00

The Nerd Sex

My theory is that beta males are generally more receptive to homosexual thoughts and "gender theory" bullshit because betas, being passive followers, are more likely to see themselves as the woman in any relationship--even if they are not attracted to men they see themselves as the subordinate partner.

Camille11325 · 2014-10-28T17:07:03+00:00

Spot on analysis. You are absolutely right that feminism and feminists are pushing people towards adopting titles and lifestyles that they may not have sought out otherwise. Feminism (and leftism in general) has also created an environment where many people are indeed choosing alternate sexualities.

The teenage and young adult years can be confusing and lonely for many people and often times one feels different than others and wishes they were someone else. The average person under 25 is constantly being bombarded with pro-women and pro-gay messages from all media sources. People have been trained to look to celebrities and fictional characters as aspirational figures, and most trust information given to them by the news and don't form their own opinion on issues. All of this combines to create a situation where younger men and women choose to identify as gay when in reality, they may not have had their environment been different.

I grew up in an extremely liberal part of the country so I have seen this first hand. My sister's friends would switch genders, pronouns, and sexualities quickly, trying on different identities casually, in an attempt to figure out who they were. This behaviour is of course encouraged and their new identities are accepted and supported, removing the possibility of them reverting back to their natural state because it would be looked down on by the "open minded" and "non judgmental" crowd.

Acting in this way gives them attention but it also gives them a sense of community and belonging. By aligning themselves with LGBTQ and feminist groups they are part of something greater. An extreme example of this phenomenon can be seen on Tumblr, where users attach all sorts of labels to themselves and even invent their own.

Ultimately, feminists (and leftists in general) exploit the natural desire within people to have a defined identity and feel accepted by others.

upsidedownbackwards · 2014-10-28T20:23:12+00:00

Feminism is one of the many reasons I like being gay. I don't have to put up with that shit very often.

niczar · 2014-10-28T17:36:04+00:00

Some might argue against the idea that feminism turned the OP's son gay but in all likelihood it's probably true

It's most definitely wrong. Read Pinker's "The Blank Slate" for examples as to why.

For example, in a decade-long experience it was found that little boys who enjoyed girly toys (dolls) at a young age were very likely to turn out to be gay at puberty. In another young female monkeys preferred dolls whereas young male monkeys preferred playing with toy cars.

Denying biology is what feminism does. Don't do it.

wtfdizzy · 2014-10-28T18:30:49+00:00

What I've always taken issue to is the idea that gay men/lesbian women must act a certain way, i.e. effeminate gay men and butch lesbian women. They're their own damn person, they should be able to act and behave however they damn well please.

I had several male, gay friends in college, and each was as different of a person from each other as any other heterosexual person is from others. A couple fell into the stereotype of "flamboyant attitude with brightly colored attire", while others acted as your stereotypical "bro". Admittedly, I have much less experience interacting with lesbian women, but I'm sure the case is the same.

The point that I'm trying to make is that I'm sick and tired of reading this narrative that simply being a gay male means you automatically agree with women on ALL women's issues, and you live a certain rigid, stereotypical lifestyle. I hear that narrative a lot from various feminist sources, and I personally find it highly offensive.

Besides, gender and sexuality aren't "fluid". You develop your own gender identity and sexual preference over time, mostly determined by genetics. Homosexuals and transsexuals have a hard enough time acclimating into a a society that by-and-large tries to exclude them, let alone pidgeon-hole them into a certain behavior or meme.

SariaLystra · 2014-10-29T03:05:50+00:00

Several points were covered but I would like to elaborate:

1) Feminism has co-opted several equality movements, including the LGBT one. Specifically, they are looking to attach themselves to anything that can grant legitimacy and, as you have pointed out, women are going out of their way to force gender roles on their children. This co-opting should be very well noted and maybe have its own post (in another subreddit) detailing the chronology. Your post seems more about this co-opting but doesn't seem very Redpill related (although the off-topic flair does clarify that).

2) In all fairness, if every woman a guy meets is a shrieking ugly feminist, are they really going to be sexually attracted to women? It kind of works in 2 ways: women are forcing sexual and gender identities. If the child sees this as a good thing, then he will probably be a beta gay boy. If the child sees this as a bad thing, then he will always associate that horrible action with women. In either road, he will probably end up being a MGTOW or, at the very least, think that he is gay.

miss_sogony · 2014-10-29T00:38:37+00:00

Every "gay" effeminate man I see is exactly the same. They are not openly gay, but tending towards it once they realise they have no luck with women and are always their best friends.

They are low testosterone, probably raised by women of the family for the most part, many are church-goers and are betafied to the max.

The openly gay men I have met would look like any average bloke on the street.

Furthermore you'll never see them in a gay relationship no matter how openly gay they become, sure they have a partner, ever see them kiss without being awkward, for these men, the game is lost. It is game over, the final destination for the Blue Pill journey. What's more socially unacceptable than being gay? Turning straight again.

2014-10-28T16:47:34+00:00

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kanaduhisfruityeh · 2014-10-28T16:49:47+00:00

The mainstream politically correct urbane social justice warrior faggot society actively promotes and pushes homosexuality. I personally say I like to fuck young fertile pussy in accordance with the laws of nature and evolution. And I never plan to change that. I don't care if they hate me and I don't care how hard they push faggot retard homosexuality. I still find that shit disgusting.

ElHombreG · 2014-10-28T19:06:01+00:00

Eh. The ancient Greeks fucked each other in the ass, way before feminism. I also wish the TRP wasn't as homophobic as this but whatever.

2014-10-28T15:20:29+00:00

Lack of acceptance is a weakness. You are trying to force a lifestyle onto others.

Learn how to lead, and if you do it well enough, people will follow.

This entire post is categorical beta behavior. Much like all of the anti-feminist bitching in this sub.

Seriously, all of these new members fill the sub with bitching and whining about women. It's really not much different from 2x

ShamanChemistry · 2014-10-28T17:41:43+00:00

a bunch of homophobes interested in gay men. hmmmm...

Title	[Off-Topic] Feminist Influence on Homosexuality
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