How do women help men succeed?

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May 26, 2019
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Let's take a scenario where I have a girlfriend and I am not successful yet. But I have all potential and necessary quality in the world to make myself a powerful man that women want men to be. Obviously creating success takes time.

Reading about the Red Pill makes me confused. Does it mean my girlfriend will not stick with me and support me during the time that I will need to create the successful life for me?


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Title How do women help men succeed?
Author MonojitSarkar
Upvotes 84
Comments 64
Date 26 May 2019 10:50 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/239726
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[–]PracticalMaximum138 points139 points  (10 children) | Copy

When you are not successful yet, not even the closest friends will support you. Remember, you take the path of success/power by yourself. At the end of the day it is your call to make. No one, except you, will invest in yourself. Women are like kids, they see a better/nicer toy, their mind will stay on that FOREVER.

[–]juiceperks38 points39 points  (6 children) | Copy

You need better friends. My inner circle helped me immeasurably and I did the same for them. We all grew together from ambitious young adults to made men.

Now a chick on the other hand... Can't see that ever happening.

[–]E9er10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

that’s funny i thought it be the other way sometimes... buddies always end up in pissing contests of who got the better sports car and the nicer corner office... where as your girl is proud of you whether you got a pat on the back or a big bonus.... my girl at time can be my rock... my homies is just for flexing my success to them and vice versa.. so we kinda push each other like that except victor that dude just doesn’t give a F whether he can pay rent today or lease a 5series BM tomorrow... so yeah good to see other groups are different

[–]PracticalMaximum4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lucky for you. But have in mind that people do have a hidden agenda. Even the friends with high morale value - trustable

[–]if_i_could_trade 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

You need better chicks.

[–]Fulp_Piction5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

A good friend will support you as long as you're moving in the right direction. If someone ditches you because you're not 'successful' then you're better off.

[–]escapethesolarsystem3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you are not successful yet, not even the closest friends will support you.

This is just because "friends" in the west are usually fair-weather garbage who are only around you for your stuff and the image that you project. Good friends do actually support you.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime86 points87 points  (3 children) | Copy

Women generally like ambitious men, and men who don't make them their center of their world.

The useful part of having a girlfriend while building yourself is that you can adequately satisfy your sexual needs while focusing on your growth instead of having the distraction of chasing a bunch of strange pussy.

She'll generally remain interested because your focus is on your work and not her, you're ambitious and your value is constantly ascending, and if she doesn't who cares, your focus is your growth not her.

The biggest problem I've had in the past is increasing my value came with increased attention from higher quality women, which inevitably left me less attracted tot h ones who I started with.

[–]E9er2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

can you explain how to navigate those waters on your latter part of the comment.. “increasing my value came with increases attention from higher quality women” im starting to get on that level... i was comfortable at my status with the girls i can talk to or come talk to me, but now some of the supervisor girls and even one manager girl have notice and want my attention (i try placing them aside) but when they come talk it’s to the point where they are intimidating the lower rank girls so they don’t talk to me... i gotta find a balance not to piss off my superiors but not scare of the tails i’m chasing.. i work in a big office with lots of peoples. so this is growing... but it is true what you are saying... i just don’t want to close one group and get stuck with another.. i wouldn’t mind starting something with my manager win win... get some tail and leniency at work... but don’t want to close off all the potential on the floor

[–]chocolatex-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

dont shit where you eat

[–]E9er0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

k

[–]boom_bostic49 points50 points  (10 children) | Copy

I have always said this—Women push men. A good woman who lovingly cares, provides and sacrifices for her man (who does the same for her) will push him to become the best version of himself. Now take that same man, but give him a woman that becomes contentious, unfaithful and self-serving and it will make him a shell of the man he could and should be.

I’ll give you a real life example. My wife likes to wake up every morning before I do and make my breakfast and coffee. I get ready and then I come to the table to a prepared breakfast, where I sit and either read the Bible or chat with my wife while eating. It seems like such a small thing. My old morning routine was to rush into the bathroom, fix my face, run to the closet, get clothed and on the way out the door I would grab a bagel or something quick that could be eaten on the road. Then once I was at work, I would grab a coffee.

When my wife started making breakfast, I realized that it put me into a better mood in the mornings. I came to work and was immediately more efficient now not having to worry about my stomach growling for food or my nerves begging for caffeine. I could come in and completely focus on my tasks for the day. I also have been able to focus more on my appearance in the mornings now that she helps out so I even look more prepared.

Since we’ve been together, I have received numerous pay raises, promotions, bonuses and such. A lot of it has to do with her contributions to my life. The thing is, it pays off for her as well. The more money I make, the more I get to spend on things like vacations, a brand new boat, cars...etc.

Bottom line is that women can help push you to make changes to your life.

[–]MonojitSarkar[S] 22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy

That means women are loyal, provided that men strive to be their best version.

Weak men who don't pursue anything to be their best are really repelling. Even I accept that.

Overall women help men become self-conscious and push them to be better.

Is my conclusion correct?

[–]boom_bostic8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think this will hold true for most case. Of course, there will be outliers.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

You read the bible? Bit of light reading? Maybe a bit of Old Testament?

Which chapter you up to atm?

[–]boom_bostic6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, I’ll tell you...I used to never read the Bible. As I have matured and grown older, I find myself yearning for it’s wisdom. It helps me stay steady in an ever shifting world.

I’m actually reading the book of Daniel right now. I’d like to read the entire Bible eventually.

There’s something really perplexing about the Bible. You can read a chapter or verse and derive an entirely different, but still a very valid interpretation of what others understand the verse to mean.

And as you read, more and more, your interpretations grow and change. I’ll give you my latest mind blower.

Ok, I’m reading the book of Daniel and there’s a story about when King Nebuchadnezzar’s grandson became the new king, Belshazzar was his name. So anyways, King Belshazzar wanted to celebrate the beginning of his reign and so he held a very lavish party where all of the most prominent people of the day were invited. During this great party, there’s many ungodly acts taking place. Belshazzar begins to desecrate items that were known to holy and of once belonged to God’s people. Basically, making a mockery of God. Well, out of nowhere appears something being written on a wall. No one could interpret what it meant but it scared everyone so badly that the party ended immediately. It rattled the new king so bad that he went in searched for the wisest man in the land—Daniel.

So Daniel reads it and tells the king (and I’ll paraphrase it of course) that he has made a mockery of the God that has given him the very breath in his lungs. (You see, God had very much blessed Nebuchadnezzar due to Daniel being basically one of his highest advisors.) Daniel tells Belshazzar that on this night, because he has been so prideful and arrogant, he will not see another sun rise. Later on, an army marches in and takes over Babylon. Belshazzar is killer as well.

Now, I’ve heard this story before and even read it as well but in the still of the morning, something dawned on me.

God hates sin, wickedness and evil. But does God hate any particular sin more than the others? I’ve always thought that all sin is equal. Then I read this story and Daniel reads the writing that presumably God (or an angel with his instruction) put on the wall. And he tells the king that God is having his wrath upon him NOT because of him fornicating upon the holy vessels, NOT because he was drinking heavily and eating unholy as well. Daniel did not list anything other than Belshazzar’s pride. Because of his pride, God would have his wrath upon him.

So I’m confident when I say that God hates pride more than anything else.

And you want to know why, at least in my estimation? Let me ask you—when you think about the horrible things we can do such as cheating on our wife. What leads us to do such a horrible thing? That’s right, our pride. Our pride fools us into doing horrible things that we wouldn’t do otherwise if we had humility.

TLDR: Pride is the source of all evil and wrongdoing. But also, try to read the post.

[–]MindFuktd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao, right.....and I thought I was on the up-and-up re-reading Orwell's 1984...shit

[–]xoxuv-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

A woman that pushes you, secretly despises you.

And is your fault for failing to lead.

[–]boom_bostic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women push you regardless if you even realize it. If you’re a great leader, they will want to push you in a positive manner such as being helpful.

You’re lost in schematics and theories you’ve read on the internet. Do some living to test these theories, brother.

Fact is that if you have a woman who upkeeps her domestic (& other feminine) duties...then my friend, I’d say she has a man that is leading her.

You think it’d be better if I was making her breakfast? Come on, let’s not be silly.

[–]urbanfoh10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Of course need some baseline SMV to keep a woman in your life. After that your value only increases further and the probability of her branch swinging decreases due to additional dread.

To answer the title of your post:

She satisfies your sexual needs which boosts your confidence and saves you a lot of time chasing pussy.

She can cook and clean for you to save you time and money.

And she can help you relax after work.

Naturally, all of that relies on the frame you set in your relationship.

[–]MajesticPitch44 points45 points  (2 children) | Copy

Women only hold men back. You become too successful, she starts to feel scared and she'll want to push you back into shit so she can stay on top.

You're girlfriend won't stay not because she is scared but because she doesn't care for your grind. She wants the results, without the hard work.

[–]Flintblood16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

She wants the results, without the hard work.

If you’re already showing status and value she will stick around while you work to increase it. She won’t be interested if you’re starting over or building from a place of low value (according to her and gender roles). This is true whether it’s your body value, social or career value, unless you’re a rare natural high value Chad in which case you can pull regardless. Many low value types I’ve known, have attitudes like they think they are Chad or Tyrone or Enrique or Long Long, but they seldom are. Scoring low value women who hang around you for drug access or validation don’t count.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you’re already showing status and value she will stick around while you work to increase it.

Lots of guys don't seem to understand that girls ADORE guys with self-awareness. If she sees an already fairly high value male continually trying to improve himself, she will be that much more determined to stick around and help him, because they'll consider it a reflection upon themselves as well.

[–]RedSkeller26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

In most cases women don’t care about the struggle, most haven’t and will never. They’re not watching the race - they’re at the finish line fucking the winners.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Somewhat true, but a lot of this has to do with them having fear of competition at other girls who are also waiting at the guys finish line, not out of a "IDGAF about his struggles" attitude. They'd rather take a shot at being a choice once he's completed the journey and is aware of his abundance, rather than get in at the start of the race only for him to branchswing upon completion. It's competition anxiety on their part.

[–]Black_Jesup16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

The right woman is like the mortar for your brickbuilding. She keeps the homefront running smoothly while you do your conquering and coalesces the social elements. It's a valuable partnership at the higher levels of success and is not to be undervalued. In fact, candidates in highly desireable business, medical, academic, etc fields won't advance to the highest levels without this partnership successfully in place.

[–]PandaLitter 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Now the bigger question is where to find a woman like that

[–]ENTPunisher 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

You can't find them, you have to make them

[–]HurricaneHugues2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

False. You can't change people.

[–]PandaLitter 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Even bigger question is where to find women not already spent to even consider building them up. The womb?

[–]escapethesolarsystem6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Women help men succeed in two ways:

  1. By existing. The desire to attract women motivates men to better themselves so they can compete and be successful in the sexual marketplace.
  2. By supporting. Good women (obviously, don't go looking for them in the western countries, they are 1 in a 100) can push men in the direction of success, by encouraging them to work harder / do better at their ambitions and career. A good woman can handle other problems (such as the home life, kids, etc) so the man can focus on his work, she can use her feminine nature / sex to lower his stress and keep him encouraged and positive, etc. This is still part of female hypergamy (woman basically have two strategies, they either pick a high value man; or build a high value man out of one with clear potential) but it nevertheless results in a good outcome for the man that is being pushed up the social and economic hierarchy by his women, whether the woman is doing it selfishly, altruistically, or simply acting on biological instinct.

However, do note, don't use women as a crutch - i.e., fail to motivate yourself to improve with the expectation that you will find a women who will do it for you. First, more women opt for picking a high value man than building one, as building one takes more work. Second, you shouldn't rely on other people to give you the drive you need improve yourself, as they might not always be there and you're giving up your own agency and relying basically on "luck" of your social situation.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

or build a high value man out of one with clear potential

This strategy is theirs is rarely discussed in TRP, why is that? I'd figure its because lots of guys are too cynical to realize this.

[–]escapethesolarsystem0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I think because a minority of women use this strategy (though it's a significant minority, probably around 25%-35% in my very general ballpark guess based on my own experiences), because it's higher risk and requires hard work. For RP men, it makes more sense from the odds perspective to play the game based on how the majority of women work, not the minority, even if this is not a case of AWALT, as the minority is a significant one.

I also see this happening more in traditional societies where women are taught to get married and stay married and have a realistic sense of their own SMV. Women don't live under the delusion they are all going to attract an alpha chad, so many women think: "hey, I'm never going to get the 1 / 100 super rich, super hot alpha chad (as all the deluded, fat, "you're a princess", western women think), so I'll find that guy who looks decent, has good character and drive, good values, and I'll push him up the social / economic hierarchy; and he'll be more loyal to me because I did that for him." Further, women in traditional (and especially developing traditional) countries know that life is hard and getting what you want takes putting in work, so they are willing to do it for the long-term benefit of themselves and their partner.

I live in a traditional country with a traditional society, and my LTR's sister is kind of taking this path. Her boyfriend is American, and while he's not a loser by any means, he has some emotional, trust and commitment issues based on his past fucked up relationships (no surprise for America). I can see that helping him work through these are kind of her project with a long-term goal in mind (like marriage). She's always building him up, embracing and endorsing his goals and dreams, acting as his emotional backstop, and sticking with him no matter what he's going through, and she's risking the best years of her life (in terms of SMV, she's in her mid 20s) to do it - and it's borne fruit for her. His entire perspective on life has improved and he's starting down a path to a happy, stable and successful future. It's also worth nothing that her N count is 1 - him - so she hasn't been fucked up by riding the cock carousel. This is how women should act, but it's just not happening anymore in the degenerate west.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

even if this is not a case of AWALT, as the minority is a significant one.

I'd argue it's definitely a case of AWALT, just that they're pursuing the end goal with a different strategy of getting there.

This is how women should act, but it's just not happening anymore in the degenerate west.

I've lived my entire life in the U.S. so I can't comment on these issues outside of a Western perspective, but I think it also comes down to how clearly the guy is signaling he has potential. If it's just some random dude she meets on the street without knowing much, that type of strategy isn't likely to occur. But if the girl knows a significant amount about him already prior to the relationship, she can read the signals more clearly and have a good idea of where he's going to end up in life. I'd say such a strategy is just as dependent on the girl being foresighted enough to predict it accurately as it is on the guy being able to send clear enough signals of self-improvement.

[–]FlyingSexistPig5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lots of people aren't successful...yet.

Most of them never become successful. Most of them just sorta continue on being normal.

[–]failingtheturingtest4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's a lot of boys spewing their interpretation of a brief red pill synopsis here. Try and identify the wheat from the chaff as best you can.

As much as women are fickle, short-sighted and emotional, they are also attracted to ambition almost as much as success. In fact, the success itself in many cases is only an indicator of the ambition and drive.
This is where men go wrong! They stop. Their ambition dries up because they have "achieved success".

I work in a novel and intellectually curious, but in reality fucking boring and dry industry. I used to avoid talking about my work because it is primarily intellectual and dull. However, I since noticed that my passion and drive for something they do not even understand gets the panties wet. The amount of times I've heard the phrase "I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm so interested in your passion".

Women want men who are passionate, driven and make it happen. If they see you continuing to carve your place in the world, they want that journey. God knows they won't be carving their own way like that, so this is their chance to feel the thrill of creating success.

Any woman worth her salt will feel the need to be the supportive, healthy "partner" who does what a women does best and helps you be the man that achieves his passion. But God help you if you slow down, stop or even deviate from your path.

No one cares about Elon Musk's past achievements, they only care what he's working on next. "you're only as good as your latest project".

Tl;Dr A high value man is one who shows signs on achievement, and continues to achieve more. How far you are on your journey will make it more readily apparent to higher SMV women. High RMV women will only stay interested if your trajectory remains correct.

[–]OilyB3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

By NOT hogging his attention, energy and time,

By facilitating him in his initiatives, vision and work,

By being able to show gratitude for what he is and what they are and have built as a couple,

By inspiring him to dare make his dreams come true,

By arranging as much as she can so he can attend to the important stuff,

By arranging FUN free time and uplifting social events so he can charge his battery,

By soothing his soul in the RIGHT way when he is in pain or sorrow,

By seeing and understanding how he came to be the man that he is,

By knowing his fears and - on the sideline - helping him face them successfully (this means NOT DEMANDING he face his fears because she wants him to),

By knowing his past and seeing him in that perspective,

By being proud of him and genuinely and frequently showing it,

By being able to be rational and logical when necessary,

By knowing herself and acknowledging to him her ownership of her own lesser sides,

By being capable of calmly unraveling conflict and neutralizing arguments,

By being patient,

By being competently communicative of her emotional world,

By being socially intelligent and gracious enough to honor him at her side.

By only committing to him when she truly, truly loves him as a person. And then by building something beautiful together.

As you can see, there's a ton of fucking work to be done with western brats nowadays.

Me, I have a girlfriend who does a lot of the above. She can walk the walk and talk the talk. She can face the nitty gritty and not complain. She's seen me in the deep and stood by me during narrow times when I built it back up.

But she knows not to misbehave or she'll be nexted and I'll miss her for exactly 3 weeks.

She stands to lose a lot more than I if we break up. And she knows I know.

"That's perfection!" - Patrice O'Neal

[–]Pooddit2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have an unpopular opinion. Oftentimes post wall women will be good significant others. They know your value, they know their value. They are more long term invested because they are older and have already done all the adhd things like ride the cock carousel and know that they are losing value with age, and that men gain it with age. I am admittedly a train wreck of a person at 30 years old but a more established woman with baggage and age (31) has shown interest in helping me get my life together. Not in a "save this broken poor soul" kind of way. Embarrassingly, more in a male role kind of way, because I really do need some help getting my life together. If she moves on later, fine, there is still a lot to gain in the meantime.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol based on your self description, do you seriously believe you are in a position to share wise words?

[–]Incaahhh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women should not be the factor between you succeeding or failing. They can either help you get there or be an obstacle but ultimately your success depends on you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’ll probably trade her up for the new model when you do reach success.

Or, she’ll leave you when you don’t reach success fast enough.

[–]thrwy754791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

We're all animals. The most powerful thing a man has is his sex drive. This is what fuels every decision a man makes, it's what drives him forward.

Men compete with other men to get better, and to gain access to the best women. The made-up titles, the fancy cars, giant houses, big incomes, it's all to fuck more and better women.

That's how they help men succeed.

[–]electricitygives1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Does it mean my girlfriend will not stick with me and support me during the time that I will need to create the successful life for me?

I mean, probably not. LOL

It's very simple: People want to feel better, and not worse about themselves.

Your failure will directly reflect how she feels about herself. She'll think "am I with a high SMV guy that can handle his shit AND my shit?" If both boxes are ticked off, you are suddenly the high value alpha she wants.

For the most part, men and women are in relationships to see what they can get out of it. (Improve their own lives). If you can do it in such a way that inspires loyalty in her, then maybe. Even then, it's not likely she'll abide by the "ride or die" fantasy that you have in your head, because all love is conditional.

She'll help you succeed by encouraging traits in you that you were too lazy to adopt before, or lack in some way. But if that's the case, you'll be submitting to her in some way. When you're not successful yet (or rather, successful "enough" in her eyes), it's not likely that there will be any kind of mutual respect that bonds your relationship together.

[–]jsperezgsp3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy

Hypergamy will push her towards different opinions:

Leaving you Cheating on you A dead bedroom A combination of them

[–]CaptDeadlift20 points21 points  (11 children) | Copy

Really black pill thinking.

There are smart women out there that know how the game works and proceed to give their best in building a man to a position of power.

Yes they all have the opportunity to fuck you from every angle but there are the rare women that will help their captain (just as there is a shortage of high value males)

I am not advocating settling down but there are few women out there that are worth every drop of sweat. You should still be careful of slip ups as they still run on emotions.

[–]MonojitSarkar[S] 7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

There are smart women out there that know how the game works and proceed to give their best in building a man to a position of power.

What is the secret to finding such women? How to recognize them?

[–]CaptDeadlift11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

You got me there bud.

Still looking for one but I have 2 redpilled mates that are in LTR's(one is a Chad the other is a Chad lite) and their LTR's are high value women that also help them further themselves.

As I said.

We all want to get our hands on a high value woman just as they want to lock down a high value man.

You can hop over to redpillwomen to see some but most are sluts that suddenly became virgins for their Captain just as on red pill most men are still beta and only a small fraction I would call alpha.

Good luck out there.

[–]Bigboyleggos3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ive met a few that were taught to "work hard play hard" by their fathers. My wife was not but she is a smart girl. When we got serious she was hell bent on building the "perfect family" it led to her feeling run down, she got burned out on chasing perfect. For a few months she blamed me, she spent every waking moment working her day job or perfecting our house. When id get on my motorcycle or go fishing she would be mad i wasnt checkings off "the list". Shit tests & tantrums..... This all turned around after she dismounted her high horse and started joing me doing fun shit a few days per week, a few more days of the projects and one night of fuckall!.

I unintentionally taught her that:

all work no play= sucks the life out of a person All play and no work =zero progress Work hard-play hard = fun and progress.

Mrp teaches us that women are fluid, they fill a container but you must create an awesome, ballanced container for them to fill.

Find a chick that makes your dick so hard it fucking hurts, have an awesome life(container) for her to join.

There never a guarentee, put the work in and see what happens, if you dont like it burn it down snd build new.

[–]PolukranosEatsWords3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Probably cliche advice but I found a woman like that in church.

She was from a fundamentalist background, and this might be important because compared to other denominations they put more pressure on women to support their man and stand by them (they stress the leader/follower dynamic). But regardless, religions in general lean away from materialism, so women following these will tend to be more open minded when it comes to "success". Not a sure bet, of course, but they will be more forgiving if you're not already successful. Religion will at least try to curve that hypergamous drive for wealth and status, giving you a chance to get your foot in the door.

Of course you have to filter out the "born agains" from the ones who didn't ride the carousel. Shouldn't be too hard. Avoid the ones with tattoos, piercings, and single moms looking for bailouts and you're already halfway there.

It's worth a shot, even if you're not really religious. Everything in life is a trade-off, and although I'm more of an atheist and didn't quite connect with her on that spiritual level, her devotion to me more than made up for that.

[–]FreedomEpiphany0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You have to appeal to their ideals.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What is the secret to finding such women? How to recognize them?

You need to get their attention by continually working to increase your own SMV.

[–]jsperezgsp2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sure. But how to differentiate them from your oneitis?

I would prepare fot the worst

[–]CaptDeadlift2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree that you should always be on your toes but there are such women and even those are capable of fucking you over if you let yourself go.

[–]FreedomEpiphany1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's sweet dude. Thankyou.

[–]Bigboyleggos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ahhhh I see now, you want to logicly, safely, navigate dating and selecting without risk. Lmao

Thats like trying to learn how to swim while safely sitting on the couch next to mommy. Even if you make it to the beach, its not swimmin till you ditch the floatys!

Get out there and fuck it up, there is no other way. Theres only two things you can NOT shrug off in a moment, preggo & marriage. All other dating bullshit is easily settled with a swift NEXT!

[–]GotPermaBanForLolis1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

How do men help women succeed?

[–]MonojitSarkar[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You got me. I never thought about that. Maybe I need some more thinking.

[–]SnivelingCoward2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being a father figure, a rock to her stormy emotions. Satisfying her sexual needs so she doesnt go on a cock hunting rampage that will damage her even more. On a deeper caveman level, physical protection and intimidation to potential men looking for trouble.

And then on a deeper beta provider role, offering shelter and food.

[–]OilyB0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

By stabilizing their emotional life (only if he's more sensible and emotionally stable), By giving advice about big life decisions (only if he's advanced level compared to her), By helping them in personal development (only if he's been there or understand how to assist), By continually supporting their self esteem, By making sure that enough life themes are in proper order so she can be base functional (choose: domestic, job, social, financial, free time, family, emotional well-being), By helping her sort out conflict, outer and inner, By helping her manage her emotions (only if she truly looks up to him), By challenging her intellectually.

Women need a man to look up to. Modern western women have fallen for the concept of equality and therefore choose men that are equal to them, not superior. This triggers her condescension ('weak men anger women') and after a while the sexual attraction fades. It will happen.

A good (yes, GOOD, meaning not ANY/ EVERY) woman will assist and inspire her man when and only if - both share the same values and goals and mostly: if she is capable of long term respect. If he, in turn, is the kind of man that can maintain this oneupmanship, he'll keep his position and remain her most inspiring and rewarding person to come home to.

But, once more - only a small percentage of modern women are capable of this, so vet, select, dump until you find one that has these competencies in. Her. Core.

[–]uptimex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women must not affect your success. Sure you can allow them to encaurage you, and then just leave and make your life shitty. As Buddha said "There is no disappointment when you have no expectations". You are a hunter, with or without women.

[–]mrpoopistan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

From what I've seen in my years, a woman supporting a man is usually an expression of his disproportionate SMV compared to her.

He might not be a success, but she's super flawed in some way. Usually ugly or otherwise unfuckable. Perhaps significantly older and post-wall. There's always something that allows the asymmetry of her supporting him to work. In other words, for one asymmetry to work, there has to be a second one that balances it out.

Usually, it just boils down to the guy living off her.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The only time a woman can make a man a millionaire is if she divorces him while he's a billionaire.



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