Being ugly is so discouraging..

twistedbrother2 · 2014-11-13T15:44:13+00:00

You're 16 years old, probably 10 years away from your first "partner," worry about having good guy friends and fucking the cutest chicks around. Again, you're 16, probably awkward as fuck, still in puberty, you have a long ways to go. Get smarter and start working out, stop worrying about your looks.

crazydave1979 · 2014-11-13T15:44:02+00:00

look at the bright side..your young, ugly duckling in high school doesn't always mean ugly duckling in life

TitanLooksss · 2014-11-13T17:00:20+00:00

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I_Wear_Jorts5 · 2014-11-13T17:09:29+00:00

It's amazing how much better looking I am at 24 compared to my 16 year old self. Similarly, its hilarious how a lot of the dudes who were getting the most pussy in HS are now fat, balding or both. Just take your ass to the gym every day and by the time you are 18, you'll be just fine.

Espada18 · 2014-11-13T18:14:28+00:00

I don't even know why you're chasing pussy at your age; focus on bigger things. Last thing you need right now is a shallow 16 year old to hinder your progress and personal development. Besides you're 16, most 16 year olds are in that awkward growth phase where they look deformed, I know I was. Read, study, lift, do sports, find a hobby and always make sure you're better than the person you were yesterday. I know how fucked up it can get being 16, but trust me when I say you're gonna make it. 10 years later you'd look back and laugh at how fucked up and cringe-worthy you were. See those girls that are calling you ugly? They're gonna get fat, emotionally fucked up and then hit 30. Bear with it for now, life's gonna get better little one.

Edit: I don't even know how you found this community but props to you, you have no idea how lucky you are because I wish I found TRP at your age.

le_king_falcon · 2014-11-13T20:15:28+00:00

You are 16. The absolute lowest ebb of your attractiveness as a male. Even a 90 year old coffin dodger has better prospects since at least he will have interesting stories to tell.

Unless you've won the genetic lottery or won the highschool popularity contest (football player, musician etc) you won't have girls interested in you.

However you have time ahead of you. I'm seven years older than you. I'd kill to be your age and aware of TRP.

So here are my recommendations to you:

Focus on your physique. Lift, clean up your diet and learn basic bodily maintenance and hygiene.
Focus on school. Get the best grades you can in fields that are useful. If you are smart think engineering, economics, comp sci, medicine and maths. If those fields are out of your grasp then pick a trade, like plumbing and learn how to run a business too. Those steps should give you career options and prospects which will lead to money.
Focus on your image. Get a decent haircut, get a decent wardrobe (this is incredibly nuanced but still important r/malefashionadvice is a good place to start) Learn to speak properly (Improve on your accent if it's seen as trashy, improve your vocabulary, speak clearly and at a reasonable pace.) These things add credibility and if done well confidence.
Always be learning. Learn new skills and knowledge at every opportunity. Read lots of books about diverse things. (This really helps with the vocabulary) Read widely, don't just focus on self help. Read about history, politics, economics, science and don't forget fiction.
Be social. Become socially aware, learn social cues. Learn how to converse with everyone you meet. The more practice here the more credible you are and the better you will be able to cultivate relationships that benefit you whether they be professional of platonic.

Finally read and practice TRP. The first five points I have made cover the self improvement arm of TRP. You however stand to benefit equally from the knowledge of women. Read everything on the sidebar thoroughly, read the top rated posts and practice the ideas. Subtlety is important or you will come across as a social retard and be labeled as misogynist neckbeard.

What I've posted isn't the be all and end all guide to becoming a RP success but simply a simple guide as to some of the things you'll need to be a successful man in every facet of your life.

Edit: Formatting was off at first.

bsutansalt · 2014-11-14T03:49:29+00:00

Attractiveness for men transcends physical looks. You'll find this out as you get older. Look at all of the things that add up to a man's SMV and start working on those traits/characteristics now. If you stay in shape, make bank, and have a solid social circle, at 33 you'll be as attractive to women as a 19 year old big tittied blonde bombshell is to men.

Case in point, once upon a time Lyle Lovett was tapping Julia Roberts in her prime.

tombreck2 · 2014-11-13T15:56:53+00:00

Social skills and social status always trump looks.

Lift, dress well, eat well, and approach as you raise your SMV over the next 20 years

TimPartendale · 2014-11-13T16:06:48+00:00

I'm not going to sit here and lie to you that being "ugly" won't hold you back because there are external factors outside of your control. BUT being ugly will hold you back less if you change your mindset.

Focus on what you can fix and change with your life. Even the ugly HS football players got poon, let that sink in for a moment. If your status, confidence and game outweigh your looks then that's what girls will roll with. Go lift at a gym (and take it seriously), go run, and do productive activities which will help you grow as a man (learn a foreign language, play an instrument, socialize, travel, volunteer, etc).

stilllearningsed · 2014-11-13T15:49:18+00:00

This belongs in /r/asktrp

needathrowawayplease · 2014-11-13T16:13:50+00:00

For one, your face does continue to change a lot into your early 20s from the influence of testosterone. I had a non-existent chin/jaw all through highschool but it's ended up at an OK point. You'll become more masculine facially as time goes on.

Two, if you want PM me a face pic and I'll try to tell you honestly whether you're just imagining this or if you aren't the most beautiful man in the world.

But to be honest, even if you aren't a 10/10, if you improve yourself in every other way you can meet a girl who is no Barbie doll herself but is still fit, has a nice ass, is a good conversationalist, and loves you. And trust me, it will get better, you can really enjoy yourself with a girl who isn't perfect.

zpatriarchy · 2014-11-13T16:33:36+00:00

you are 16, i know it sucks. i was covered in acne, so similar situation. but you just have to lay the groundwork for the future. college, job, friends, hobbies. you will be able to bang girls when you are older.

work on those things so that when you are in your 20s, those things will help girls ignore your appearance.

looks only matter for online dating.

midnight3896 · 2014-11-13T16:37:24+00:00

Don't be down man. I didn't get leid and swallow the pill until 18. I started lifting at 17. I was chubby, unaesthetic, ugly. Never even got a girls attention. After about 3 or 4 months of hard lifting girls starting coming to me. I didn't even try. Girls came from all over to fuck me. Just do you. I lifted, got a motorcycle, and found some great hobbies. Find passions you have, start lifting, and let the girls come to you. They will. Just be patient, put in hard work to bettering yourself as a man, and it will work out.

thenarrrowpath · 2014-11-13T17:28:03+00:00

What are you dealing with? Is it just acne? Or do you have some facial features that are permanent? Not trying to being mean, just looking for some clarity. I worked with this really hot attorney, and her long time BF had a cleft lip thing (pretty much looked like Chonch from the Goonies) but he was in business and had a very masculine and dominant way about him.

circlhat · 2014-11-13T18:40:38+00:00

If you aren't the best looking guy you need to lower your standards and start casting a wider net, while at the same time improving your body.

Girls do care about looks in the face but not nearly as much as men, remember that.

Project attractiveness works, I not saying you are going to go from a 1 to a 10 just by attitude alone, but turning a 3 into a 5 is a huge step.

MensaNominee · 2014-11-13T18:51:21+00:00

No you're not being a cry-baby. You're just being an angsty teen with raging hormones. My advice for you and I strongly suggest you consider acting on this advice...

Work out
Find friends that are like minded but outgoing.
Study hard
Try your damnedest to get into a good University, if school isn't your thing just make sure you are working hard, saving money and accelerating your career.

If you do all of this, when you're close to turning 21 all of your teenage awkwardness will have dissipated leaving a well rounded, fit, financially secure, intelligent dude...at that point, your actual looks (face) won't matter much. You'll be in the clubs/bars of a college town fucking 9s and 10s in no time. Don't rush and don't worry.

Masonjarteadrinker2 · 2014-11-13T20:59:39+00:00

You're still a kid, you need to relax, I was fucking chicks since 13 but I see dudes that were ugly back in HS and now they are good looking dudes. Just chill bro, get into a sport, that could help out your self esteem.

oldredder · 2014-11-14T08:57:55+00:00

Sadly there are some of us with bad genetics. It's hard to get over this, if it's the facial skeletal features, bad skin, face too wide or too narrow, maybe height or symmetry is a factor. Were there any clues?

It's really hard for me to rate my own SMV type looks like 5/10 or 8/10 because honestly, I'm not a narcissist staring in the mirror. I can only best-guess my own SMV based on the girls who show attraction to me, which appears to be 7-9. Not sure however if that means I'm a point lower so they feel less threatened or a point higher because they feel they can and must date up, or if I'm the match/equal to them physically.

Compare your male SMV to those of the women saying this: are they much hotter on the scale women would be measured on, than you are on the scale men would be?

TitanLooksss · 2014-11-14T13:24:25+00:00

I'm starting to appreciate the "no second chances" rule and the bans now.

2014-11-14T15:37:41+00:00

Being broke is even worse but ok. Look on the bright side. When you get on your feet, at least you'd know by then about the "start at the finish line," bandwagon nature that many women have.

Bearhardy · 2014-11-13T15:44:56+00:00

Make yourself as attractive as possible then start making your life as attractive as possible, yes ugly people have it harder also blind, poor, short, deaf, black, etc.

Work with what you have play to your strong points not to your weaknesses, if you are ugly your personality must shine trought since you are male looks only makes up to 30% to attract a female.

Good luck, you are young and informed I can't imagine a better position to be in, lurk more and think before you post.

garlicextract · 2014-11-13T17:26:17+00:00

How tall are you OP? Being tall and ugly might actually be better for SMV than short and decent looking. Coming from a short guy.

Metalgear222 · 2014-11-13T18:21:38+00:00

LIFT GUY LIFT

whatcanredditdo · 2014-11-13T16:15:37+00:00

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MaxPower6 · 2014-11-13T17:49:21+00:00

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Title	Being ugly is so discouraging..
Author	TitanLooksss
Upvotes	0
Comments	47
Date	November 13, 2014 3:34 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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