What's the deal with non-virgin women withholding sex?

Cho_Assmilk · 2019-05-13T12:09:21+00:00

Disagree with the "they don't find you attractive". This is like... textbook LMR. He should have just taken a couple steps back and escalated again from there, but instead, he opens his big mouth...

“Whether you fuck me tonight, or we go on 10 dates and you fuck me then, it doesnt provide insurance against you getting P&D. If you think that holding back the pussy, and going on a bunch of dates is going to make me want you more, i feel sorry for you.”

And this whiny rationalizing spiel dries her up like industrial-grade desiccant.

OP just shit the bed, HARD. This woman was at his house making out with him -- she was dtf, he just fucked it up for himself. She probably told the "chads" she fucked on the first date the same stupid sort of thing, "oh I can't do this" -- they just correctly identified what she was up to and played the situation better than OP.

poppy_blu · 2019-05-13T10:10:09+00:00

And then she says “Well I have been celibate for 3 months. And I am guarding my pussy. Every time I have had sex on the first night, it either turns into just sex or I never hear from the guy again. My pussy has power, and I respect myself and my body and I don’t do that any more. Any man that wants the goods from me, well, he has to work for this. I need to make sure that he is worthy of me.”

Cool story, bro

betabehavior · 2019-05-13T14:26:46+00:00

She fucked that one dude that one time, doesn’t she understand she has to fuck everyone now?

flamingoinghome · 2019-05-13T12:03:41+00:00

Dude, it's her BODY.

It isn't about being "fair" ffs, it's about not being genuinely crazy and continuing a behavior that has yielded undesirable results in the past.

Also, I'm calling it: that story is at least 70% fan fiction. So this well-educated, well-employed woman is talking about her consumer debt on a first date? And refers to he "pussy having power" like a creepy twitter meme? An our gallant hero tells her about her "risks of him ditching her after sex" and this is just a normal thing he says and doesn't freak her out even a little?

I'm sure the whole bus clapped.

Willow-girl · 2019-05-13T11:01:57+00:00

Just because she had sex with someone else doesn't mean she somehow owes you, sex too.

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nevomintoarce · 2019-05-13T08:24:04+00:00

How is that fair?

Nobody ever said dating is fair

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nevomintoarce · 2019-05-13T10:32:29+00:00

Her old tactic isn't working for her so she's trying something else. Since when do things need to be "fair"?

wotsittoyou · 2019-05-13T12:57:58+00:00

If you wanted immediate sex it was your job to make sure you were there when she was into having immediate sex. Those other guys made sure they were there. Of course it is fair. Coming second in a race is fair if you didn't run fast enough. Earning less is fair if you didn't work for a qualification that brings a high wage job. And not getting easy sex with young beautiful women is fair if you weren't what they wanted when they wanted it and were busy doing other things. You snooze you lose.

Nevidimka- · 2019-05-13T08:32:20+00:00

So she thought that guys would have the same serious intent she did but found out they didn't and got hurt. Decided to learn from the experience and guard herself to lower the chances she'll get hurt again.

If you get cheated on in a relationship, and you make the mistake to forgive but they just do it again, how would you feel if your next partner says, nope, your ex didn't have to be faithfull so neither do I.

If you spend too much on your ex and you go broke over it, how would you feel if the next girl says nope, you went bankrupt buying her shit, you can't learn from that and stop it, have to buy girls shit for the rest of your life now!

It's ridiculous that anyone should do everything they do for someone, for the rest of their lives. If you think that, well then you should agree that every divorced man HAS to remarry another woman, or else it's nOt FaIrrrrr

Edited to say, OP, has there never, ever been a point in your life where you were like "hey, these things I did are not doing me favors. I'm going to make some changes to get a better outcome"?

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-05-13T13:18:17+00:00

Who told you anything about dating was "fair"?

nevomintoarce · 2019-05-13T14:11:13+00:00

So it's either virgin or sleeps with men on the first date?

daniellederek · 2019-05-13T14:37:04+00:00

Well generally after the second unpaid internship most people wise up and look for paid positions.....

TheMedsPeds · 2019-05-13T15:42:00+00:00

First of all, that story has /r/thathappened painted all over it. Total incel red pill fan fiction.

But lets just pretend for 5 seconds that it is true. She tried sleeping with guys on the first date and realized that strategy didn't work so now she is not putting out right away. Like, why is that odd to you. Makes total sense.

mydikishomofobik · 2019-05-13T08:06:17+00:00

Because she owns her body and if she doesn’t want to sleep with you she doesn’t have to.

Edit: I just read the story and that man is disgusting. She is very lucky she told him no. Some people make a mistake by having a hookup and then the next time they go on a date they don’t repeat the mistake of hooking up. This man got super pissed off because she said she’d prefer to wait to have sex. He insulted her and acted like a dick and acted super entitled. It’s quite sad

How do you expect her to change and make her life better if she doesn’t put her foot down at men treating her like this? If she makes one mistake is she doomed forever? No. This man had two other dates scheduled right after her anyway, he can sleep with them if he’s so desperate he needs to insult a woman who said no.

Is this guy required to sleep with any girl who asks just because he’s done it before?

exit_sandman · 2019-05-13T17:45:43+00:00

I’m not a virgin and I will withhold sex from anyone I don’t want to have sex with. I have had sex on the first date and I have had one night stands and guess what - I still don’t owe sex to every man I meet or within a certain timeline. I choose. You can move on it you can’t handle waiting until I am comfortable sharing intimacy with you. There are other men out there.

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Murdocs_Mistress · 2019-05-13T15:59:09+00:00

Maybe because nobody is owed sex and not being a virgin doesn't mean she's obligated to put out to someone.

Female_urinary_maze · 2019-05-14T01:49:34+00:00

So your example story was deleted, and I'm getting the impression that it was made up or about a crazy person, so I'm just gonna answer your question in a more general sense. Why do women who've had sex with guys they don't know very well before cease to do so? The first date sex didn't work out well for them. They got their hearts broken or had crappy sex or whatever. The point is it sucked, so she stops doing it. Do you expect women to keep making the same mistakes over and over again just to make things seem more "fair?" Sex isn't just something a woman gives you, it's an activity you do together which affects her physically and emotionally, so when she doesn't partake it's not to deprive you, it's for her sake.

Talkytalktalk · 2019-05-14T18:01:42+00:00

fairness in love, what a quaint notion.

granollabarsss · 2019-05-15T05:22:39+00:00

How is that not fair? It’s her pussy. The man isn’t entitled to it cause he took her out to dinner and gave her fucking roses. You’re a fucking idiot. Just cause she made that mistake in the past doesn’t mean she has to pound it out for every other guy. She’s trying to change her ways and not be a total slut again. Grow the fuck up just because a women isn’t a virgin doesn’t mean she’s gonna fuck on command.

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FinchRosemta · 2019-05-13T18:19:57+00:00

And now require someone to work hard and prove themselves before getting what others got for free. How is that fair?

Are people not allowed to grow and learn from their errors in judgement? Doing the same thing and getting the same results (that she doesn't want). So she tries something new. That's what ALL people. If you do something and you have a bad reaction from it, you change the behavior. Up don't keep doing the same thing.

2019-05-18T16:51:53+00:00

Redpill: complains about sluts

Redpill: also complains about women who don't have sex on the first date

WELL WHICH IS IT?

Title	What's the deal with non-virgin women withholding sex?
Author	BimboLover666
Upvotes	6
Comments	118
Date	May 13, 2019 8:04 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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