So plenty of terps are obsessed with a girl's n count. Like finding out what a girl's n count is. I can't figure this out since all girls will tell you their n count, straight up start laying it out, when they are bugging you to tell them your n count. I've always appreciated this part of getting to know each other deeper as now I have a better handle on a girl's memories and know what her lived experience has been. Plus how are you going to poke fun at her for being naive or reference actual facts of your life if either of you are just lying to each other?

But some of these guys are straight up obsessed with this stuff.

My theory is that girls will start to tell you about their true memories and lived experience, but then some guys will interject their own ego protection into the girls true experiences. Which simple screams low value.

When a girl is still young and just figuring out dating and sex she may begin to tell a guy a story. The story will end with her and another guy having had a sexual experience. Some guys will project some kind of ownership and toxic masculinity over the girl's story and get angry or interject in the story to suggest that the girl was "taken advantage" of. When in reality she was exploring adulthood with another guy who was also exploring this new found set of adult experiences. The guy who interjects or expresses some kind of time travel to the past ownership over a woman is demonstrating that he is low value. Because he is immature and inexperienced, and the woman sharing the truth is a threat to his masculine ego that he can not handle. Hence he will preempt the threat by inserting his own white knighting into the girls retelling of the truth.

This is a sign of being a low value male. Women then react appropriately.

Let me give an example from my life to attempt to unpack my dense statement.

A few years ago I met a girl and we hung out a bunch and had some good times together for a bit over a year as fwbs. One of her true memories she shared with me was a story of one of her first times exploring sexuality and relationships with another young guy. She told me the story and I found it almost cute in the naivety of both of them, including the "I love you/I hate you" intense feelings that teenagers have. Hearing her hushed words about the way his hair had a cowlick, how his laugh sounded stupid like a donkey laugh, the drama of the other girl who liked him, etc, made me feel more connected to her. Us sharing stories these ways made me feel closer and more connected to her. I knew her deeper and her me, as we shared the truth with each other in often tender and vulnerable ways.

But after we stopped being fwbs she got a boyfriend who she later got engaged to. After the engagement we spoke for a bit and she told me that she tried to tell him the story of that first guy. Not who she lost her virginity to but a guy she explored adulthood with. Her new fiance concluded for her that she was raped. After speaking with her for awhile she agreed with him. To mollify him. Because he was a low value male and the idea that his (then) fiance had an actual life before him hurt him straight in his ego, and he couldn't take it. So he raged. Apparently he punched a hole in the wall and then convinced (her) (himself) that she was just tricked by a bad bad man.

He never heard her speak of him in the ways she truly experienced and he will never be able to share in those memoires she had. Because he is not actualized and he must tell himself lies to maintain his own ego and self image. Hence he is a low value man.

So my claim is that an obsession with a girl's n count is a screaming red flag of low male value. Women do indeed talk quite openly about their experiences with some men, as we share our real true lives and real experiences and real memories. It draws you in deeper with the true person you are sharing a part of your life with. But low value men can't handle the truth, and they, not women, interject to create a false reality that they cling to. Low value men create the false reality they then accuse women of "tricking" them into believing. And it's only low value men who are somehow "tricked" into believing that a woman is a virtuous Madonna cartoon character who could never have any kind of feelings or experiences with any man but him, because he must protect his own fragile ego. Men who know themselves are not fazed or hurt to discover that they aren't the only man in the universe.

Only low value men are obsessed with disqualifying a woman based on her true real life. And it isn't about "but but what if we get married" but it's about his own childish fragile male ego not being able to accept that he isn't the only male that girl could ever share intimacy with.