Epic "Don't Marry" thread #2 from LetsRun.com: Post-nuptial shutoff

JackGoldsteinWrites · 2014-12-16T15:42:37+00:00

The game doesn't stop when you get married - you still need to be an attractive and dominant man or your wife will lose respect for you.

You young wolves need to understand that "game" is a useful delusion.

It's what we arbitrarily distinguish as a series of behaviors and patterns we forcefully adopt to extract the most out of life. We put effort into molding ourselves to fit these ideals.

At some point, you need to internalize all of this shit and it needs to happen effortlessly. You stop "game". You just ARE. Effortless mastery - if you have it, marriage and LTR aren't issues. The issue is guys get married before they can manage a plate, and they take a wife which takes 5x the skill. You, the newbie, think and analyze shit tests and comfort tests and frame. You, the master, you don't think of things in terms of "shit test" and "frame", you just do what you have to do and people walk the line because you're in charge. A girl won't even THINK of leaving you because you're the center of her universe - it would be as absurd to her as the Earth deciding to leave the Sun's orbit.

But don't kid yourselves - the game never ends. You game your boss. You game your girlfriend. You game your kids. The MGTOW monk games the mop he cleans the floor of the monastery with. If you think that's a burden, think of the fact that animals in nature must hunt EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. I game my LTR and cock whip her every single day and she wouldn't have it any other way.

[deleted] · 2014-12-16T20:01:44+00:00

At the end of the day women get old, often fat, and just shrivel up.

They are like flowers, they bloom for a short time, then rot.

Men are like trees, they just get better with age, even if their skin gets a little rough.

If you dont want to be stuck with a rotting flower, dont get married.

Men evolved to fight over breeding rights with young fertile women, a man has no reason to be interested in anything else.

Marriage is for women - it provides them support and surity long after they have bloomed. For men it is like national service - you wouldn't do it if you had a choice right?

Marriage is for chumps who just don't understand society, the world, human nature and the history of evolution.

seattleron · 2014-12-16T20:05:09+00:00

Holy shit does this one hit home. The last LTR I had was just like this. Holy shit.

All of the guys she “loves” are just a set of internal fantasy men that she has in her head from adolescence. When she finds a convenient guy who happens to fit a fantasy, she acquires him, experiences him, fucks him, whatever, so she can check off one row of her mental list of fantasy conquest boyfriends. In most cases if you ask her what the guy was actually LIKE, what he thought, what he cared about, etc, it’s unlikely she even noticed. His actual thoughts were irrelevant. His wants and needs, his dreams, weren’t something she was even conscious of, except to the extent that his dreams were part of her fantasy of him. He wasn’t really a human being at all, in her view.

I sometimes miss her and ask myself if she was the one, but when I get down to it without emotion attached, she took zero interest in just about anything that had to do with me. It was just me trying my best not to fuck it up in my BP days.

Fuck's sake, I was born too late.

HeadingRed · 2014-12-16T22:05:42+00:00

Sex is also the barometer, the health indicator of marriage\LTR. Yes you can get busy, medical issues but it's pretty much an accurate indicator of how much you desire each other. It's a sign of how much you still want each other after a bad day.

I told one GF (with her for a few years) how much I wanted her. She told me men just want sex and it does not matter with who. They get it in their head that because we would have sex with other women that somehow it means they should not want to have sex with us.

I still think men are the romantics and women are the real players. Men meet a girl, have a great time fall in love and say "she is perfect- I want more of this!". Women meet a guy and go "With a little work he could be ok. Then I can really be myself"

GayLubeOil · 2014-12-16T15:47:49+00:00

Sex is a huge part of marriage. If she isn't providing it get it somewhere else.

nanovirus2 · 2014-12-16T18:02:07+00:00

This is amazing. It really shows you the dark reality of what has been largely romanticized.

redpillbanana · 2014-12-16T15:43:31+00:00

Here is a link to that thread:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=1740988&page=0

Not sure why OP did not include

redpilltom · 2014-12-17T06:45:39+00:00

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

MOST WOMEN DO NOT MARRY FOR LOVE.

They marry because it's expected of them. They marry because their friends already got married to a great guy. They marry because they know they are getting older. They get married because they've fantasized about their dream wedding (notice, the dream wedding has nothing to do with the person they are marrying as they have no input and are merely life-long placeholders). They will get married because they know they could get a good alimony if things go south. They will get married to control the power structure in the relationship. They will get married because they think it will make them finally feel completed. But, almost never, do women simply marry a man because she loves a man.

Think about it, if they honestly wanted to get married just because they loved you, they would be completely fine with you saying "no thanks" and saying you like the way things are. That is never a good enough answer. They often risk the relationship for a shot at marriage if they are desperate. They will pretend to be the perfect wife-material to get it. They will manipulate. They will goad. They will give ultimatums. They will cry and complain. But it's not because they want to marry their husband, but just that they want to get married in general

slcjosh · 2014-12-17T07:43:05+00:00

Other than my father and one friend who has a smoking 10 for a wife who adores him, I have not met a single married man who has told me to get married. They all tell me the same thing. Stay single.

bm2l · 2014-12-16T16:14:24+00:00

Marriage & cohabitation are the fastest ways to dry a pussy up. Women respect & get wet for men with options. Comfort and stability does nothing for tingles. Women want men that can get other women. If you are married or living together, she has no reason to be on her toes, no reason to do that thing YOU like, no reason not to start talking down to you. The biggest weapon you have in your arsenal is the ability to walk away. By walking away, soft/hard nexting, or asking her to leave your apartment if she's nagging/not putting out, what your subconsciously letting her know is "You're pussy ain't worth it baby. I'm alpha enough, and have enough game to pull another bitch to drain my nuts so shape up or ship out." Of course NEVER ACTUALLY SAY THIS TO A WOMAN. Women cannot handle overt communication and will get mad or just label you as one of the jerk asshole guys Cosmo warned her about. All you can do is be the guy who she takes it in the ass for because you're not worth losing. Never stop working on SMV.

Now to comment married life. Night after night your wife refuses sex. What can you do? Sitting down and talking it out is overt communication, and her pussy will dry up even further. Leaving will cost your kids, and financial freedom. With marriage you lose your trump card. Tits or GTFO doesnt work without the GTFO.

_wolfgang_ · 2014-12-16T18:59:52+00:00

I remember reading one of these sorts of threads about a year ago which lead me to the red pill. It was the single most eye opening thing I've read

vicious_armbar · 2014-12-17T03:59:07+00:00

If the candy store you usually go to is closed, then just go to another candy store. Seems like common sense to me. Be up front about it in the beginning. That way it's not "cheating". I don't why see men put up with their wives/girlfriends controlling the amount of sex they get in the first place. If you're being a pussy and letting her turn you into an incel; then you're part of the problem.

deaduponaviral · 2014-12-16T18:13:10+00:00

Yeah my dad and I always joke about how attractive the wives are in the ED commercials and why in God's name the men would have a problem getting it up with their bangin' mid age wives ie. the creepy viagra woman.

The key is, women get a marriage contract that doesn't expressly say they have to stay in shape or take care of their family so they go to straight shit afterwards. They can because your left nut is now in a vice grip. I think ED, like ADHD, is just a band aid for putting up with the feminist bullshit. These medicines are just temporary ameliorations for the West's retarded shift in culture, which is in direct conflict with human biology. Finally, female viagra has been around for ages; its called money ;)

RedBigMan · 2014-12-19T01:10:23+00:00

If she refuses sex during your honeymoon, immediately seek an annulment.

BOOM! This is the ONLY valid response to such. Annulments are much easier to get early on in a marriage. If she's not even going to put in the effort of duty sex on the honeymoon which is where you are supposed to consumate (fuck for the 'first' time as man and wife) then she needs to be kicked to the curb. Do not indulge her at a later date when you give her annulment papers because that's just her trying to get her hands on 50% or more of your shit she'll fuck you if she can get $500k or more out of it. Any woman would.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-12-17T02:10:48+00:00

The linked thread is most interesting for historical reasons.

You can see the progression of TRP from the ideas being refined in 2007 to the much better understanding of Dread, Hypergamy, and SMV today. We are making progress.

The advice here and on /r/marriedredpill is much better than the advice they had to offer 7 years ago.

bertmaklinFBI · 2014-12-16T20:10:51+00:00

These are weak willed men. Of course they are whining about their horrible marriages. Why would a woman want to fuck them when I can barely read their dribble?

Venicedreaming · 2014-12-16T14:51:08+00:00

The problem here is a lot of chaps look down on girls who are sexually comfortable, aka sluts. If you try to bag a virgin wife, don't be surprised when she doesn't seem to like sex that much. With that said, try to wife someone who likes sex if that's your priority. Otherwise, tap some young ass on the side if your sex life is stale. All powerful men and politicians do this, and their wives are well aware

grewapair · 2014-12-16T22:04:16+00:00

If a girl likes sex, I'd hold onto her and give her all she wants. Liking sex doesn't necessarily mean 50 partners by the age of 25.

Title	Epic "Don't Marry" thread #2 from LetsRun.com: Post-nuptial shutoff
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Date	December 16, 2014 11:27 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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