'We don't hate women' wtf is all this then?

XXYukieXX · 2016-08-02T16:13:55+00:00

I don't see what the big issue is here. There's a post on r/theredpill that says:

--women don't experience the friendzone in the same way as men do and can't relate to men's friendzone experiences

--women don't pity, empathize or sympathize with men who experience the friendzone

And.....?

Men reading these things don't need to "love and embrace" women at that moment. They need to care about themselves. Much of the harsh locker room language at that subreddit is used to shock men out of their complacency, their reticence, and their prior unwillingness to see and understand what is really going on around them.

They don't need to form relationships with women. First, they need to see themselves and the world as they really are. They don't need to focus on how they should treat women -- especially women they aren't fucking.

So no, your criticisms and your spleen venting don't make sense.

XXYukieXX · 2016-08-02T16:00:25+00:00

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MasherusPrime · 2016-08-02T16:44:30+00:00

Where is the question?

What was the point?

Why are you here?

darkmoon09 · 2016-08-02T16:45:15+00:00

All we're doing is making observations on women's behavior, putting our collective experiences and observations together, and come to generalized conclusions based on those observations. If critics want to interpret that as "woman-hating" then that's on them but all TRP is doing is forming a sexual strategy based on the behavior of women.

I know there is some genuine misogyny out there, but understand that all of the anger you see is born out of loneliness and frustration. These guys don't want to hate women, they just want to better understand women.

PIBagent · 2016-08-02T17:20:03+00:00

Men are children too. They're easily controlled by their dicks and will literally throw away their common sense for a nice set of tits. Hence why yall are sitting on this subreddit reading books and doing field reports on getting in a woman's vagina. ...How do you feel reading that? It's the truth! It's nature !!!

Society has been saying that for years already and men have had to grow thicker skin as a result. Perhaps women should do the same.

Whisper · 2016-08-02T18:02:44+00:00

I started following you clowns a couple years ago

This is why one shouldn't feed stray animals.

and some of the shit you spit is right, and makes sense. However, some of the shit I see on the sub is straight scary.

And yet you still read. Does that tell you anything?

SetConsumes · 2016-08-02T16:29:15+00:00

Your ability to form a coherent post is terrible.

You just word vomited your feelings because you don't like how trp makes you feel. Way to exercise your logical skills.

Archwinger · 2016-08-02T16:38:50+00:00

If this is what passes for female literacy, I think we're right to want to keep women down.

deskgrunt88 · 2016-08-02T18:03:36+00:00

This reads like a young white woman trying to sound like a mid twenties black dude and failing badly. That said, I'll grit my teeth and respond paragraph by paragraph.

I started following you clowns a couple years ago, and some of the shit you spit is right, and makes sense. However, some of the shit I see on the sub is straight scary.

LOL

Yall are just as nasty and irrational as the fat feminists you point and laugh at.

Oh?

If you hate women because they're crazy or whatever, just say it. Don't be a bitch. Feminists on Tumblr say they hate men all the time. They ain't scared.

Most of us don't hate women at all, though. If we did we wouldn't want anything to do with them; you're thinking of the MGTOW movement, which is different from TRP. If it was as you say, TRP wouldn't be.

But anyway, here is some shit I've been seeing on the sub to help give some insight as to why the betas and fat hamsters on Reddit think yall hate women.

No one there cares what the rest of reddit thinks.

Lately, TRP has a pattern of dehumanizing women. These otherworldly creatures cannot feel pain. They cannot pity. They cannot empathize. I don't know the clinical term for this, but it ain't normal. I think it's called malevolent sexism? You're not calling them stupid, hoes or anything like that, but you're taking human qualities away from them. Believe it or not, that's...bad. And kind of scary.

Walmart has night lights for pennies on the dollar if you're scared. That aside, if you think a little cold analysis of women's psychology is malevolent sexism, you should also note that TRP analyzes men just as coldly. The fact is we /are/ subject to thinking with our testicles rather than our brains and as such are easily manipulated. That's why there's so much disdain heaped toward beta males; they don't step back and look at what their behavior is, what it's getting them, why they're doing it. It's not hateful to recognize it any more than it's hateful to recognize the psychological mechanisms at play when women behave in a manipulative, callous, or cruel manner. The only difference is that it's verboten in polite society to put the magnifying glass on women's minds without filtering the language used through gender studies 101 vocabulary.

Reading all that shit doesn't just make men love and embrace women. Soaking in all this shit about how women are unloving, un empathetic creatures towards non-alphas isn't going to make men form stable, healthy relationships. Acting like you know everything about a woman's life doesn't make anybody happy. How do yall not see that.

Like simpering beta chumps have loving, stable relationships. You can't love something if you don't understand it. You only love a fictionalized approximation of that something; a myth; a unicorn.

I submit that the sexist here is you. TRP is not dehumanizing toward women- it is humanizing them, allowing them to have the same types of embarrassing foibles that everybody already knows men have. It removes the pedestalization- you see the pedestal going away and think it's hateful. The hate is in your mind, my dear, not TRP's.

It breeds hate and fear.

The hate and fear is yours.

Same with the women are children BS. Men are children too. They're easily controlled by their dicks and will literally throw away their common sense for a nice set of tits. Hence why yall are sitting on this subreddit reading books and doing field reports on getting in a woman's vagina.

All granted. In this regard I think men are lucky - introspection is a little easier for us, especially since our culture attempts to shield women from the pain of introspection at every turn.

But, it's also a nasty thing to look at.

Your moralistic outrage means nothing to me.

And it makes men subconsciously see women as less. As little dogs. So while it's not AAAAAH I HATE BITCHES hate, it's not necessarily doing good for men's mindset towards women.

You think it's bringing women from the status of humans to the status of dogs. I say it's bringing women from the status of gods to the status of humans. Disagree if you want.

Does that make sense?

Yah, you're just wrong though. And stop trying to talk like a rapper, the vicarious embarrassment is killing me here.

XXYukieXX · 2016-08-02T15:57:56+00:00

Shitpost. What is the question? What's the criticism? Did you come here just to rant and rave?

This is Purple Pill Debate, not Purple Pill Vent Your Spleen.

XXYukieXX · 2016-08-02T16:55:01+00:00

Reading all that shit doesn't just make men love and embrace women. Soaking in all this shit about how women are unloving, un empathetic creatures towards non-alphas isn't going to make men form stable, healthy relationships.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but the vast majority of the 'sphere is pretty much against any form of committed relationships. There are pockets where that isn't so, for RP married guys like me, but the truth is: to live a fully idealized RP life, you really can't get into committed relationships. thing is, many of us don't want to be "Chad", we just want a fulfilling sex life as well as a committed relationship that lasts. A lot of RP wisdom can be applied to LTRs/Marriages with very positive results.

FWIW I don't see "women" as lesser beings, I see "people" as lesser beings. In this case "people" are folks I don't know, and they are male AND female. But I'm not looking to promote sexual attraction from other men, so my focus on that subject is squarely on the women.

despisedlove2 · 2016-08-02T17:23:23+00:00

Women have been dehumanizing men for centuries. Now that we also consider women to be no better than snakes, suddenly you are outraged.

hyperrreal · 2016-08-02T15:54:16+00:00

This has been tagged Question for Redpill, so top-level responses should be that from that group.

Apexk9 · 2016-08-02T16:31:43+00:00

I like dogs better then people.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2016-08-02T16:35:03+00:00

Lately, TRP has a pattern of dehumanizing women. These otherworldly creatures cannot feel pain. They cannot pity. They cannot empathize. I don't know the clinical term for this, but it ain't normal. I think it's called malevolent sexism? You're not calling them stupid, hoes or anything like that, but you're taking human qualities away from them. Believe it or not, that's...bad. And kind of scary.

Women only have sex with someone they are attracted to. Are you saying we should expect women to have pity sex with unattractive guys? Why is it bad to have no sexual empathy for someone you don't find attractive or are outright disgusted by?

You're not calling them stupid, hoes or anything like that, but you're taking human qualities away from them.

So not expecting a woman to pity-fuck you is 'taking human qualities away' huh?

Reading all that shit doesn't just make men love and embrace women.

Why should men love and embrace women?

Men are individuals, just like women. Let them decide who they "should" love and embrace, lol

Soaking in all this shit about how women are unloving, un empathetic creatures towards non-alphas isn't going to make men form stable, healthy relationships.

There would be no relationships anyway, let alone healthy ones, what are you smoking? Are you saying orbiting a woman in a friendzone is a healthy relationship?

Acting like you know everything about a woman's life doesn't make anybody happy. How do yall not see that.

We don't know everything, that's a strawman. We observe sexual behaviors from countless anecdotes and form our views from these. We try to create the most real no-bullshit sensical map of female sexual behaviors, and quite successfully so. Why should we make anybody happy though? It's not the goal. The goal is getting laid, not caring what fat feminists think.

Same with the women are children BS. Men are children too. They're easily controlled by their dicks and will literally throw away their common sense for a nice set of tits. Hence why yall are sitting on this subreddit reading books and doing field reports on getting in a woman's vagina.

Everyone has instincts, children and adults alike. What separates them is accountability and taking responsibility. Instincts are irrelevant to being adult, responsibilities are.

How do you feel reading that? It's the truth! It's nature !!!

Yes, that's correct. I feel ok, I'm a mere human being

But, it's also a nasty thing to look at. And it makes men subconsciously see women as less. As little dogs. So while it's not AAAAAH I HATE BITCHES hate, it's not necessarily doing good for men's mindset towards women. Does that make sense?

Not my fault that women like it. I'd be perfectly fine if women really were as strong and independent as they claim to be. But as long as there exists the demand for alpha men, will exist TRP.

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Anthrosi · 2016-08-02T17:56:46+00:00

Oh they do, it must take quite a bit of hate and soullessness to use people as your cumdumpster, although you do see that on the bp too. The way I see it, redpillers from trp and degenerate faggots like their bp counterparts.

exit_sandman · 2016-08-02T18:21:29+00:00

"But that's just a few posts! Only a few Red Pillers sai--" Hey. ARPALT, son.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4vnqx7/on_the_friendzone/

I don't really see your problem.

This post is one of the more tame ones, and it's also pretty accurate in my experience. The female obliviousness to the experience of the friendzone, the utterly hostile reactions you'll read when you're browsing /r/relationships, the lessons learned... especially the lessons learned, actually.

disposable_pants · 2016-08-02T18:48:01+00:00

The quality of posts on this sub continues to fall. This is poorly written, poorly organized, doesn't have a clear argument ("wft is all this"? Seriously?), and doesn't even rant about anything that hasn't been ranted about a dozen other times. Posts like this are why we need downvotes.

Other commenters have covered more, but I'll highlight this section:

Same with the women are children BS. Men are children too.

"But but but you do it too!!" isn't an argument -- it's an evasion. It's not even a particularly good evasion, as there are plenty of TRP posts/comments that highlight how most men are childlike in their dependence on video games, easy lifestyles, and other means of avoiding responsibility/shirking challenges. TRP at its core isn't "women are worse than men;" it's "here's how women behave."

Title	'We don't hate women' wtf is all this then?
Author	XXYukieXX
Upvotes	11
Comments	100
Date	August 2, 2016 3:47 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4vt3j1/we_dont_hate_women_wtf_is_all_this_then/
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