Are women who are receptive to redpill traits poor relationship choices

[deleted] · 2014-04-07T19:48:11+00:00

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BabeOfBlasphemy · 2014-04-07T01:47:02+00:00

I've noticed highly intelligent, moral, academic types of women are very turned Off by the behavior and they are the unicorn types TRP wants so it is self defeating...

skippwhy · 2014-04-06T22:08:03+00:00

This is definitely true. Using tactics to attract women that are shallow and have low self-esteem attract…you guessed it! Women that are shallow with low self-esteem! These are not the ones you want for a relationship.

SirNemesis · 2014-04-07T16:49:45+00:00

Perhaps. But better to settle for women who're receptive to redpill traits than no women at all. Which is what most guys who turn to the red pill were experiencing before they took the red pill.

[deleted] · 2014-04-06T21:49:49+00:00

I often wonder if behaving "redpill" only turns on a subset of women

Few women indeed are going to affirm "Yes, a guy who practices what /r/TheRedPill preaches would turn me on". Yet, men who have put those preachings into practice report increased sexual and relationship success. Even the blue pill types on this subreddit are quick to downplay many red pill behaviors as "oh that's just common sense". Reference the gaslighting thread for examples.

It probably is technically a subset but it probably isn't a small subset.

women who can't control themselves around cocky arrogant men, are the most likely to cheat once a man with these traits in greater abundance comes along

I think there is a spectrum of women responding positively to red pill behaviors, not just ones that "can't control themselves around cocky arrogant men". Much like I think there's a spectrum of men that respond positively to makeup, not just ones that can't control themselves around a pretty face.

rulenumber303 · 2014-04-07T10:17:53+00:00

I've sort of thought of this one too, from the point of view of how very few of the successful family businesses I've known have had easily led women as the female half of the business.

I mean shy and easily led and susceptible to confident people is great. Until she signs up to buy a $3000 vacuum cleaner you didn't need because the saleman was so persuasive.

sh1v · 2014-04-06T23:55:23+00:00

I often wonder if behaving "redpill" only turns on a subset of women, rather than all women

Certainly. There are lesbians, asexuals, misandrists and the like out there, after all.

if you want a long term relationship rather than casual sex, cocky-arrogance and selfishness is harming you, rather than helping you

Hence the notion that alpha and beta traits are both necessary to maintain an LTR. The captain-first mate dynamic, leadership flowing from mutual respect, and so on. You seem to be overly focused on the "picking up sluts" aspect of TRP, and are either ill informed or just intentionally blind to the fact that we already figured out where acting too cocky/selfish can be a hindrance.

women who can't control themselves around cocky arrogant men, are the most likely to cheat once a man with these traits in greater abundance comes along?

Again -- way ahead of you. If she's a fuck buddy or plate who gives a shit? You are fucking multiple women as well, and can rotate one out and find a replacer easily. TRP has always been more focused on developing your own value than mate guarding (though there are some rare cases where the latter is called for).

As for LTRs, for that niche a redpiller won't really be angling for unrestrainedly hypergamous bar sluts to sway via cocky/selfish behavior, so your logic starts to break down there.

Time4Red · 2014-04-06T21:22:32+00:00

I think all women are receptive to RedPill tactics. Some are more aware, others less so. So in a way, I agree with you because I think marriage is dumb, I think co habitation is dumb, I think any activity that binds you you financially or legally to anyone is dumb.

soylint · 2014-04-07T02:00:40+00:00

"Are women who are receptive to redpill traits poor relationship choices?" Answer: No.

I think a lot of people ask questions like this because they fail to properly empathize with the women they're talking about. What kind of women are receptive to redpill traits? Women who like fun, which is most of them, and includes some who would be good relationship choices.

I'm going to make an analogy to magicians here. A lot of magic tricks are pretty simple, and with some practice they are easy to do. That being said, it is even easier to do a magic trick poorly. I think a lot of people are imagining someone presenting game or redpill traits poorly, which is reasonable as they may have encountered such people in real life. They think, "How could someone be fooled by such an obvious ploy? Any such person must be incredibly stupid/weak-willed/low self-esteem/etc." They are failing to consider 1) that it can actually be done well, and 2) that the target need not necessarily be "fooled" in order to enjoy the experience.

If a magician comes to perform at a party you attend, would you interrupt in the middle of the act and shout: "You weak-minded fools! Magic isn't real!"? You probably wouldn't, because the whole point of the interaction is to have fun. Someone might not like a particular act, but who doesn't like to have fun in general? This is why RPers might seem to be overstating their appeal.

FortunateBum · 2014-04-07T19:39:22+00:00

ALL women are poor relationship choices.

MGTOW

theboiledpeanuts · 2014-04-07T20:20:30+00:00

Someone who responds to RP traits is not immediately invalidated as a LTR any more than a woman should disregard a man who gets boners at the sight of naked women. It's their biology. It's their moral character (outside of their biology) that decides if they are LTR material.

PublicallyViewable · 2014-04-07T02:52:44+00:00

Idunno. The first girl I tried redpill 'tactics' on last week was really turned on by it, and she seems like a really nice girl that I would enjoy a longterm relationship with anyway. It's only 1 data point, but I also think you're confusing redpill with seduction/pickup.

Everyone likes confidence. I don't think it's a minority subset of women who like redpill confidence in a man, but that it's a minority who don't.

Title	Are women who are receptive to redpill traits poor relationship choices
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Date	April 6, 2014 9:01 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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