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November 29, 2019

Hi guys,

I need some advice. I'm early 30s and married when I was 20, because my then girlfriend needed a Greencard, though she denies it till today and insists it was because we were so in love with each other.

Anyway, I was broke most of my earlier years between University, a dropout and low paying jobs. And if she could have left me then she probably would have, but for reasons (no job, no language, no connections) she didn't.

Fast forward I am a small business owner, with 3 employees, very soon with around 8, because I am buying an old competitor out, in a white collar industry.

Admittedly it is very hard for me to turn the ship around at home, because for more than a decade I didn't own my shit. I didn't brought in the money, I didn't work out and my marriage was and is still partly dieing a long painful death.

At work it is a totally different story. I am the youngest, and well dressed in the office and employees are very respectful. I get told in my face how much of a catch I would be and notice getting eyed, a thing that didn't happen in the past, so I must be doing something right in the eyes of these post-wall women. At home I am in the following stage

Your mind will be consumed by your lack of sex and intimacy and your relatiionship will be defined by a massive lack of respect.

With my current acquisition my company is about to make 400k a year revenue. With so many employees it's not much, but it is so much better than being broke.

Though I have continuous nagging at home for not hiring my wife, and why I employ other women at my company, instead of my wife, and send my wife to work full time for other men. "Any real man with an Office, wouldn't let his wife return at home at 10pm from a shitty low paying job."

Objectively she would be a good candidate. She has the right qualifications, is good looking and hard working. But her lack of respect at home make my stomach clinch.

Furthermore some good employees already don't like the idea (hiring decisions are team decisions), because they have seen her being "hysterical".

On the one side I need to hire an assistant to assist me in the acquisition process. On the other hand I haven't been able to tame her, so she is still a risk factor, since I heard at least from one qualified employee that he would consider quiting, if I hired her.

My gut feeling tells me that hiring her is a high risk high reward situation. I would have the mother of my child in the office. I would fuck her whenever nobody is around (that's part of the job description) and if she works as hard as she does elsewhere, she would be a benefit.

The risks are that she wouldn't be able to accept a subordinate role to other more experienced female employees and would probably try to use her connection to me for power trips. Though any display of lack of respect will be reprimanded early and swiftly by me, which would in turn create problems at home. Also she is the jealous type of person, which might create conflict and a bad atmosphere.

I don't need bitch fights. But I also am quite guilt-tripped by her for not doing my duty. By the way, I have a fully implemented performance measurement system that tracks everything that can be tracked, so I would see very quick if she does her job or not.

I don't know whom else to ask for advice. All around are my employees who are unanimously against it and beta males who are in favor.

I personally am inclined to test her out. See how things work out, and if they don't (aka she doesn't let me fuck her), fire her. Sounds good in theory, but nobody believes that this kind of golden way works in real life.

So what do you guys think?

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Title Hiring Wife?
Author HonkHonkBaby
Upvotes 13
Comments 37
Date 29 November 2019 02:36 PM UTC (11 months ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/297078
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/e3fhy9/hiring_wife/
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[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando41 points42 points  (3 children) | Copy

She already own your balls at home.

Now you're thinking about handing them over to her - not just at the office, but at an office that you own and in front of your employees.

You'd be a fucktard to do so.

And as for this...

I would fuck her whenever nobody is around (that's part of the job description)

Stop kidding yourself. All you're trying to do here is negotiate sex, same as when you tried to negotiate sex in exchange for a Green Card.

That worked out well for you, didn't it?

[–]JoeBuckYourslf23 points24 points  (4 children) | Copy

“But her lack of respect at home makes my stomach clinch”

And you think it’s going to be different at work?

You’re fucked.

[–]Onein1024th9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

talk about doubling down on a losing hand

[–]Hugenstein4144 points45 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've owned a business for 15 years and I wouldn't hire her as you describe.

She doesn't want to work until 10pm. She wants a cushy job. She knows she can get away with whatever at work.

It will be extremely destructive to the morale of your other employees. Even if she does a good job they will find anything to blame on her getting special perks.

Also they are working for you they don't want to work for her.

I have seen twice happen what I just described above.

I wouldn't do it.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

You already know the right answer, your employees have told you. You're willing to test her out with an already proven track record. Dont look to the internet for validation trust your employees who seem to have YOUR business in their best interest.

[–]rockstarsheep11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s a HARD NO, from me, dawg! Have you lost your mind? You have a patchy, at best, relationship with her and now you want to bring that dynamic in to your business?

She’s already the boss at home, so this is going to translate at work, whether you like it or not. It’s going to happen, either from the start or at some stage. Business with friends and family is always tricky, but this takes things on to the next level of over-complicated living.

You think that she’s going to treat you the way you want to, by giving her a job? That’s copping out my man.

If she wants a better job - that’s on her! It’s her responsibility to adult herself here. She needs to make the sacrifices, take the risks and put the work in to get ahead in this world. We all have to take responsibility for ourselves!

More than that, you’re going to create a weird dynamic in the office, because she’ll be an employee with the privilege of being your wife. And if she’s manipulative, she’s going to play that card hard.

It sounds like you’ve worked your ass off to get where you are. And now you want to jeopardize this, so you can ‘reprimand’ her in to some sex? And then fire her, if she doesn’t deliver? Where is your mind at?

I’ve had to take a client to one side and tell him that if he wanted his business to be successful, that he needed to remove his wife from the unsolicited advice she was giving him. It took dumping a bucket of cold truth over his head, that woke him up! I’ve also worked with another client who’s wife worked in his business; she talked about him behind his back, took liberties with long lunches and did as she pleased. She’d get fired and rehired at least once a year. Their home life was up and down, as you can expect.

Do you really want this extra bullshit in your life and more-so, in your business?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she undermines you in front of your employees you will never regain their respect unless you divorce her.

[–]77mrpB2A9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, you should not hire your wife. Also, you didn’t ask, but carrying 8 ‘ees on $400K of revenue is a problem as well. Merging two businesses, you should be looking for opportunities to drive efficiencies and reduce that headcount.

[–]rockstarsheep2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I totally agree with you on this. Those numbers seem risky to me.

[–]SepeanRed Beret7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would fuck her whenever nobody is around (that's part of the job description)

Hahaha. You can't make deals with your wife, dude.

if she works as hard as she does elsewhere, she would be a benefit.

Her current boss has leverage that you don't. It's a very different situation you're walking into here. She has to be self motivated to work well for you. Is she the sort of person who can't do half assed work? What about getting along with coworkers? You say she's been hysterical in front of them, that's a huge red flag. Without a boss that will discipline her if she can't control herself, she's going to be trouble, isn't she?

I've been in a family business most of my life, and trust me, the checks and balances don't really work. The people who are inherently hard working and well behaved do a good job, the rest spin out of control.

And FFS, get the idea that you can fuck her just because you hire her out of your head. It's so fucking stupid, haven't you ever seen "you can't negotiate desire" tossed around here? It's a lot less work and headache for you to just read the sidebar and hold frame than to hire a bitchy wife into your business, AND the advice in the sidebar actually works.

[–]MightBeNiceGuy7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't do it! My situation is very similar to yours. I started a business a few years ago out of the house. Also married sooner than I should have for green card reasons. I thought it made sense to hire my wife since operations were already in our home, and this was preferable to having someone else come into our home every day. While she did a good job at work (most of the time), it really fucked our relationship even worse. She will bring her shitty attitude to work and poison the morale. She will resent you for being her boss. She will throw tantrums and protest when you discipline or criticise her performance. Her resentment of you will reflect in her performance at work. She will use her role in your company as leverage to try to gain power over you, and threaten to quit or sabotage the business. You will be unable to focus and perform your best at work when she is there. She will feel entitled to the money you are paying her, and treat it as her own play money instead of family assets.

In my case, she quit or threatened to quit six times, and each time manipulated me to get her job back. Finally after this last episode I had enough and terminated her employment.

Don't make my same mistake.

[–]weakandsensitive6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

On the one side I need to hire an assistant to assist me in the acquisition process. On the other hand I haven't been able to tame her, so she is still a risk factor, since I heard at least from one qualified employee that he would consider quiting, if I hired her.

So you're going to hire a shit tier employee, who already doesn't respect you because she's seen your bullshit for 10+ years, to "show her" how much of a boss you are --- so her opinion of you will change at home.

Gee, I have no idea why this wouldn't go swimmingly.

[–]skuttt9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don’t fuck yourself over. Don’t do it. Divorce her instead, your SMV is rising, her’s has peaked. You are making your mission work out right now, hiring her jeopardizes it.

[–]themerovingian013 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do not hire your wife. The way she nags you at home she'll do in the office, in front of your employees. There are so many reasons to just say NO.

[–]Nodeal_reddit5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go with your gut. Don’t let this woman into your business. It will hurt morale and when she (eventually) leaves you, she will have a stronger case for stealing more of what you’ve worked to build.

[–]TitsWobbleAwayTwice4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don’t hire anyone you can’t fire.

Don’t hire anyone who can talk back to you without consequences.

Don’t hire anyone who can countermand your instructions.

Don’t hire anyone who will create confusion about who is in charge.

See where I’m going?

This would be bad leadership even if your wife wasn’t a shrew.

[–]RicoDunne3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really asking us for business advice about hiring your shitty wife?

If she is disobedient and lacking in submissiveness at home she will only take that corrosive attitude to your business and poison your staff against you. Forget to put the toilet seat down or cater to her highness like you usually do and your staff will hear about it.

I personally would lose respect for you and I don't even work for you. Your employees know that she would be overpaid and over empowered by your caving into her. women ruin everything is a saying for a reason.

[–]AlohaMaui8083 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get your head out of your ass. DO NOT HIRE YOUR WIFE.

These guys are wrong btw, it isn't your wife who is shitty, it's you. Your wife is AWALT. Especially coming from her culture, she is acting perfectly normal around a Beta, Low Value Male.

You can't handle her at home, so you want to add her into the one part of your life that's actually flowing in a positive direction right now? WTF is wrong with you? Stop fantasizing about office sex. It isn't going to happen, and even if it does, it's just an even bigger lawsuit liability for your business.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Have you read anything?

Do you lift?

This doesn’t even belong on MRP since you clearly aren’t doing any of the suggestions.

You are asking the wrong question.

The question you should be asking is “why the fuck am I still with this woman?”

I’d be interested in your answer

[–]hibloodstevia2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So what you're saying is that you're ready to end your marriage? because this could go two ways, and that's an equally likely outcome as the other.

[–]WesternhagenWinner2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Worst idea ever. You've heard the saying, "don't shit where you eat"? What you want to do is bring a bucket of shit into the pristine kitchen and dump it on the floor.

My gut feeling tells me that hiring her is a high risk high reward situation. I would have the mother of my child in the office. I would fuck her whenever nobody is around

Which part is the reward? You can already fuck her at home... you can go home and fuck her whenever you want... what is the upside of having her in the office, too?

The risks are that she wouldn't be able to accept a subordinate role to other more experienced female employees and would probably try to use her connection to me for power trips.

You forgot the part where all your current employees who are competent and have an ounce of self-respect quit in disgust.

Jesus, dude, act like a professional. Everyone, including you, should be in that office for the sole purpose of getting the job done.

[–]johnmic072 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This whole post is you thinking about doing things because your employees or wife want you to. Now you're asking a bunch of people on the internet how you should handle it. Grow a pair, and make your own decisions. Then accept the consequences.

Do you want to work with your wife? If so, then hire her. If not, then tell your employees to fuck off.

[–]mrpmonk2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

where are your stats?

[–]JoeBuckYourslf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Needs permission from mrs. Green card

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

This entire post is an attempt at your hamster to negotiate desire and negotiate dominance. Neither of which will work since you are a gigantic faggot.

[–]RicoDunne4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wrote a whole paragraph of fluff compared to this succinct and insightful advice. He would be better off taking his dog to work. When that bitch shits on the floor, it won't ruin his standing.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are you out of your mind ??

Fire one bitch and move toward getting more business in and take more cash home.

In the meantime STFU and move toward improvement.

At the least, STFU, lift and sidebar. Ignore the fuck out of her

[–]psychoduckly1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dipshit, tell her what you've told us. She's disrespectful to you, hysterical, at a volatile time in your dealings. Can't you just tell her or do you want one of us to send her an anonymous email?

[–]lifeadept1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Along with all other, already mentioned, reasons for not hire your wife, consider one more reason: right now by being successful boss in your own company, with other possibly attractive women employed, you create some kind of mystery about yourself (increasing dread). Everyday she needs to guess what did you do during the day, who did you meet with, and so on. It is a side bonus of not working with your wife. Why would you ever want it to be removed?

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