Why does this sub dislike no fap so much?

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December 7, 2019
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I’ve been pondering this quite a bit recently. No Fap for me has made such a difference to my life and my game always just feels natural when I’m not wasting my sexual energy jacking off to pixels everyday. I could say with 100% certainty that if read the sidebar over and over over the course of my month it wouldn’t make a bit of difference if I was wanking every day, I’d still be socially autistic and shit tests would throw me off completely when it came to interactions with people. Here’s an example of what I’m talking about, just the other day I was on a date and we stated off in a Wetherspoons, which is a chain of pubs in the uk which is a cheap place where people go to get pissed. Anyway as I’m sitting with this girl this middle aged man who’s clearly beyond drunk sits by us, like you can literally smell the alcohol on him. Obviously I’m not going to tolerate some stranger interrupting us by sitting on our table so I asked what he was doing and he goes ‘just chilling’ and quite bluntly I reply ‘you can’t chill here’ and just looked at him in the eyes until he got the message and moved on. I’m only 18 and not particularly big. I’ve made some gains since I started the gym about 6 months ago but I’m not massive. Now I guarantee that if I wasn’t on no fap I would of been completely stuck in that situation and would of probably looked at the girl to say something.


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Title Why does this sub dislike no fap so much?
Author astonboi01
Upvotes 87
Comments 149
Date 07 December 2019 05:39 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/298149
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/e7ai44/why_does_this_sub_dislike_no_fap_so_much/
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[–]augger1115 points116 points  (6 children) | Copy

On 7+ day steak I feel like fucking any gross female out there ...

[–]putconfac35 points36 points  (2 children) | Copy

Its Natural its called Testosterone this little hormone attract chicks.

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[–]OfficerWade16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Be careful what you wish for, young man

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[–]augger10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Steak and beer

[–]UnbreakableFrame141 points142 points  (31 children) | Copy

Nofap gets way too pseudo-sciency for my taste. I'm sure not nutting every day has benefits, but people act like they've reached nirvana by just not jerking it. It's too dogmatic for me to take seriously.

Edit because I clearly need to clarify.

I am not saying that quitting masturbation is a waste of time. I quit awhile ago. My criticisms are of the Nofap community, not abstaining from porn and masturbation.

Also, to answer the guys asking if I've tried it, I have. I routinely go 1-2 months without doing it. Like I said, it has benefits, but I seriously think they are overblown. Quitting porn is much more important than quitting masturbation, as porn has been proven to mess your brain up.

[–]putconfac8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nofap gets way too pseudo-sciency for my taste.

Realize this;

The habit of watching pornography and masturbating is what teens who just discovered their sexuality and soyboys Losers who are unable to get a woman do.

It's too dogmatic for me to take seriously.

There are many young guys 80% of the post ate garbage just like THIS PLACE most don't read the sidebar.

Don't forget most of society mocks TRP and they don't take us seriously and don't forget NoFap is far bigger.

[–]throwing8smokes1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nofap started very small; so I'm sure trp will gain traction as it has done so already.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

TRP actually does objective good for men.

/nofap has no such claim. They're full of psudo-science bullshit is all.

The people there are to be avoided.

[–]pursuitofman32 points33 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm an entirely logical male who tested NoFap out for 6 months and will say you're right in saying NoFappers falsely claim they reach Nirvana. But there are tangible benefits, like increase in energy, strength, mental clarity, focus, and will power. When I broke my streak I still retained all the mentioned benefits but operated at a lower level, and it was very noticeable. Perhaps put the rhetoric of NoFappers aside for a time and give it a go and see for yourself...?

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

increase in energy, strength, mental clarity, focus, and will power

sorry, no, that's total bullshit with zero scientific reality behind it.

You're just as deluded as they are. Take it back over to the freaks at /nofap,

nobody here is buying your snake oil.

[–]20pastfour4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's true, i have tested it myself also, you get the benefits he described, maybe it's different for you, only you know, just don't say it's bullshit because it isn't.

[–]pursuitofman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't really care about your opinion, but I don't want you to disuade others from trying NoFap, because you are clearly ignorant.

[–]flipthecatjack0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Try it out and see for yourself.

[–]Inyox3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly I spent about 8 months without fapping or watching porn and usually go weeks without fapping and don’t notice anything different, but there are always outliers so don’t know

[–]hamagiclamp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It doesn't work for everyone, the problem is that no fappers are so vocal and absolute that fappers think they're annoying.

Best thing I think I could compare it to is CrossFit guy. I strength train and cardio when I'm on point with my diet I look great. But CrossFit guys gonna tell me how much better CrossFit is and that CrossFit is better than whatever I'm doing and that if you're not doing CrossFit your whole life is being wasted because he CrossFit CrossFit CrossFit...see CrossFit is good for you, but not the absolute best thing ever.

[–]loadacode11 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy

Honestly did you try it? I feel a differenxe at day 10 and huge differences after day 20.

like all things, i just stay open minded and see if these self improvement tricks help or not. If you didnt try it, you should and see afterwards if its beneficial to you or not.

No dogma involved just your own experience

[–]Ill_mumble_that32 points33 points  (4 children) | Copy

Just give up porn. The fapping will auto correct.

[–]Alt_Mayday-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Is fapping to pics any better? Or is fapping to your imagination the healthiest

Asking for a friend

[–]throwing8smokes6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't look at any porn, period. No pictures, no nothing. Think about this: only chimpanzees who are raised in captivity will jerk off. This is true. Being horny is a natural state of a male. Are you a caged animal? Unleash yourself from your mental prison my friend.

Just because you desire a woman, doesn't mean you should spill your seed. Learn to harness this 'uneasiness' and live with it. It will push you to far greater heights than you could imagine. It will push you to compete, to dare, and to pursue women.

If you have to jerk off, do it. But know that if you harnessed that energy, you could have been with a mate.

[–]Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No porn. No pics. No videos. No erotic stories. No audio.

The only 3rd party scenery should be a real other person there with you, not pixels on a screen or on paper or digitized audio. Not phone sex or camgirls either, that shit is gay.

Jack off all you want but do it without porn. It will automatically be a lot less frequent. Nofap is idiotic, porn is the root of many a problem.

[–]mrheh1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Does no fap mean not busting a nut? Or can I still have sex?

[–]loadacode3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are different opinions on it. Usually everybody agrees that watching porn is the worst.

In my experience the best way is to keep the semen. I still have sex with a plate though, when i can.

There are also people who go full monk mode and dont have sex or masturbate to feel the most benefits. I think thats true but i still prefer to have real sex.

Masturbation should be avoided imo.

[–]astonboi01[S] 3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy

It’s all to do with resetting your dopamine system

[–]putconfac8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know why you are getting downvoted what you are describing is a fact.

Pornography Addiction is REAL.

[–]cjaprice13 points14 points  (6 children) | Copy

I've heard this argument and understand the logic but it seems like its not based on anything and is part of the pseudoscience that turns people off.

[–]putconfac8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

Its not an argument is a FACT.

Pornography Addiction distorts you Reward System, once you engage in pornography consumption you seek the new high and novelty everyday.

I haven't masturbated in 2 years and anytime i see pornography by accident i don't get aroused but pissed off and anytime i talk to a real life female i feel engaged with her defects, smell, tone of voice etc...

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[–]putconfac1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you retarded? I didn't say dopamine was my enemy LoL dude please stop

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[–]putconfac1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes I do but it's too much of a hassle to look for it because this account and this phone i have are new, also I've deal with many faggots like you in the past, at the end is not of my concern (I don't give a flying fuck) if you constantly beat your meat it's your problem.

[–]IATAsshole0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So because some people get high on it and exaggerate you decide to not take it seriously or try it yourself? Ok then

[–]TheGillos60 points61 points  (7 children) | Copy

So what works for you, but no fap reeks of placebo effect. Which can work. I could jerk off to porn hub in the bathroom, then come out and tell some drunk to kindly piss off. So could you.

I do think porn can fuck with your sexual performance though, based on many anecdotes. I've always considered porn as a treat. Choke it to your imagination. Porn is like a slice of cake. If you eat 3 slices of cake every day you'll be a diabetic fat fuck.

[–]throwing8smokes2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

yeah, most of it is a mindset. Plenty of confident people jerk off. I don't think it is healthy though. Decreased sensitivity in the penile region, etc. If you think you are a loser because you are jerking off, you will be a loser. Because that is your MINDSET.

But it works for a lot of people, because when they get off PMO, their mindset changes. So just like athletes with superstitions; if it helps you perform better, and is good for your game, believe in whatever pseudoscience you want.

[–]TitsAndWhiskey1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Idk man, I look at getting a nut just like taking a shit. If I go for more than a day or two without it, I get cranky.

[–]VaN__Darkholme1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have no hole and I must coom.

[–]TheGillos-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah. That's fine IMO. Where did I say don't nut every day or two?

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is a healthy, normal attitude that 99.9% of people have.

/nofap is obsessed with their own genitals, either touching or NOT touching them.

They constantly brigade their bullshit pseudoscience as if it has anything to do with anyone else.

[–]Alpha2714525 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

I hold your same view point. Nofap is very similar to The Red Pill. A group of people who shave against the grain to achieve a better life. However some things and mindsets are perpetuated by the nofap community that conflict with certain redpill ideas. The idea of a long lasting soulmate or "unicorn" is an idea that doesn't bode well with redpillera, but is commonplace among Nofap. I gladly partake in both communities and adjust my viewpoint where I see fit. Don't let some sperg tell you, that yoy have to wack off, fuck that guy

[–]putconfac9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is because pornography screws your view towards girls as a sex object you are easily impressionable.

Blue Pilled is partially evolutionary across generation girls simply reproduce with men who were empathic with them and their offspring (of course excluding the weak ones).

That's why avoiding watching pornography and masturbating naturally makes you more empathetic and you are more masculine too, this "new," version of you is more effectively attracting girls because they are very good observers covertly you come across as genuine, sincere and more attractive.

Combine this with TRP and you are set.

[–]astonboi01[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I don’t really follow the sub. I’m more interested in the concept of not masturbating. When I don’t waste my sexual energy I feel invincible. Ultimately, you can read all the heaps of content on shit tests but if you aren’t truly confident they’re still going to fuck with you.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nofap has ZERO similarity to TRP.

[–]throwing8smokes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, honestly, there's a lot of bluepill shit on Nofap. The concept of Nofap is a great one, and I recommend it to anyone, but you shouldn't stop there.

I find a lot of people on Nofap demonize their sexuality. Like it is immoral, or they are saving themselves until that magical unicorn comes along and sees how self restrictive of a man they are.

A lot of people could hide behind Nofap as a front because they are really incels, or they are trying to seem righteous when they are not. This is true for a lot of things in life.

If you embrace your sexuality, and use Nofap as a motivation to trp, then I see it as a positive. In fact, there are many members of Nofap who see it this way to. Quitting porn to get back in touch with your true masculinity.

But note, the desire of Nofap should be then to pursue a mate; not to revel in how much of a man you are because you can restrain yourself the most.

[–]Yanggang-Drew15 points16 points  (22 children) | Copy

Used to frequent nofap. There was a lot of beta shit on there (me included at the time).

“If I don’t fap for 3 months then I can finally have the benefits I need to get girls”

[–]astonboi01[S] 6 points7 points  (20 children) | Copy

Is it as beta as wanking off to another man fucking a hot chick?

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some guys probably do have that problem and it is beta.

[–]slap2butts5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

For me, abstinence from fapping gives me a confidence boost, I feel much healthy and my gym strength increases. Fapping only led to negatives in my life and nothing else, it is not about the lens I observe NoFap from. Men should really avoid fapping. Fapping really fucks up your face, If you’re wondering how you got that new pimple or why you’re face looks dull,now you know the reason. (May write a long post with daily life facts why masturbation is bad for MEN. Let me know)

[–]Tousen7119 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy

Personally I subscribe to NoFap.

Benefits: Less anxiety, clearer head, higher testosterone, more sexual energy, greater discipline and willpower.

I’ve done NoFap for 90 days (50 hard mode - no nut at all), relapsed, then went again for another 120, relapsed, and now I’m back on a 34 day streak and counting.

There’s nothing wrong with jacking off...as long as it doesn’t become an addiction.

I’ve been jacking off since I was like 8. And I can promise you that that kind of conditioning not only has longterm effects on your sexual performance (you either can’t cum or your brain is prepped to cum as fast as you can) but also on your ability to persevere through obstacles (namely LMR).

We’ve all gone out and hit on a few girls, got a rejection or two, and said “FUCK IT! I’m going home to jack off.”

That alone should tell you that relying on masturbation to serve as a “pussy crutch” is a deep seated problem.

If you want to eat meat you gotta hunt—not forage for nuts.

[–]slap2butts5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed to most but “There’s nothing wrong with jacking off”..? There are many.

[–]YourShadowScholar2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

How would you avoid being wildly desperate then if you're running out of time and just hopping from one rejection to the next constantly?

How do you even have time to do that all night every night?

[–]Tousen715 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not sure what action the second question is referring to, and it’s taking some assumptions, but in general, NoFap has a calming affect past the first two weeks.

You WILL be horny as all hell two weeks into not masturbating. A month in and you’re chilling.

After that it’s smooth sailing. I could go home drunk af, no pussy, and just pass out. Not jack myself off to sleep (which was a common behavior for me when I masturbated every day).

[–]YourShadowScholar0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You said you desperately go out every night and hit on as many women as possible and don't rest until you have sex i.e. "get the meat not the nuts". So I was wondering how you have enough free time to do that every day basically. And also how it works out? It seems like it would make you quite unattractive and desperate, and take a ton of time.

But I have never needed to masturbate every day, or regularly to sleep, so maybe I just have no idea what you're referring to exactly...

[–]Tousen711 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t go out every day. Nor do I talk to every girl in the club. I said I’d go out and talk to a few girls then say fuck it, go home and jack off.

[–]serynada10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

it doesn’t. everyone has their own opinion. think for yourself.

[–]astonboi01[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I know it’s not everybody but I’ve noticed a lot of senior contributors dismiss no fap completely. Honestly wondering if anybody else has had the same experience with it as me.

[–]serynada0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

a lot of ECs are older and didn’t grow up and have their neural wiring fused by high speed internet porn during puberty, so you can understand this blindspot.

[–]hamagiclamp6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Everyone is different

Me: I start getting really aggressive sexually and physically if I don't jack it for 3 days. I have no performance issues and I'm an overall happy human.

Other person: doesn't jack it for 3 days and suddenly is omnipotent

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[–]AttikusEUW2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No Fap to quit porn is great, No Fap to not release the tension is not that good. But to each their own

[–]huey76415 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

They think quitting porn is the solution to all their problems

[–]bonaj12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Absolutely not, it is part of the solution. If you think watching porn is totally fine for you, you are just being ignorant.

[–]huey764-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Who says I think that?

[–]putconfac2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They think quitting cocaine is the solution to all their problems

They think quitting alcohol is the solution to all their problems

They think quitting meth is the solution to all their problems

They think quitting toxic relationships is the solution to all their problems

They think quitting junk food is the solution to all their problems

They think exercising is the solution to all their problems

They think socializing is the solution to all their problems

They think learning new abilities is the solution to all their problems

They think getting a job is the solution to all their problems

No is not, its just the beginning.

[–]DarkestShadeOfRed11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy

If you have sex regularly, which is the goal of TRP, not jerking off makes no difference. I have sex a few times a week and if I get the urge to jerk off I will, then I go back to living the exact same life. If I were in your shoes OP with some drunk stinky guy sitting at my table I wouldn't have a problem telling him where to go even if I just jerked off in the bathroom at Wetherspoons 5 minutes prior. Nofap is very much a placebo, and some guys need that absolutely but it doesn't give you super powers like some seem to think.

[–]putconfac6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just to let you know.

Having sex with girls is NOT the same as watching pornography and masturbating.

You are down your androgen receptors.

[–]DarkestShadeOfRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I never said they were the same thing. If you follow TRP and get laid regularly than you really don’t care about or receive super powers from not jerking off.

[–]uchihaitachi12370 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Part of it is placebo. However if you jerk off like 2 times a day you lose your aggression. That masculine edge. I don't jerk off for like 2 weeks if i have a big college sporting event and feel the aggression. For example if i jack off before a match of soccer/football if someone takes the ball I'm like fuck it let him go. 2 weeks of no masturbation good old sliding tackle

[–]PumConqueror0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Just sounds like you need to be on the bench bud.

[–]uchihaitachi12370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hahahahaha I'm the captain. Have warmed the bench alot through high school though :p

[–]mickenrorty5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

No fap has mental benefits, not just for attracting women but for asserting yourself in the world... Chris rock has some great stand up comedy about it.

I try to go 3-4 days without fucking a women/porn at a time. Or rather I try to go as long as possible and thats the time I land on without getting too horny to manage.. but I also blame weight lifting and the diet for that

[–]putconfac2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

STOP WATCHING PORNOGRAPHY AND MASTURBATING BECAUSE IS HARMFUL FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH.

Get a real girl instead.

The whole habit of not masturbating is free and you don't have to subscribe to anything.

[–]PatrickIIDX2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I always listened to Roosh's advice: Limit masturbation to once a week.

Sometimes I think I should go every 1.5 weeks or 2 weeks before fapping.

I think everyone is different. I usually masturbate if I know I'm not going out let's say Sunday, where I keep my testosterone for gaming at a bar and club.

[–]Truedemocracy51 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

lol at anyone here saying it doesn’t work, is pseudo science, placebo, etc

Not jerking it for several days in a row clearly makes you hornier

[–]supersonic-turtle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t mind the five knuckle shuffle it’s the porn watching that fucks things up for me. Real women smell, have hair, aren’t that flexible, and generally don’t wanna do the shit you see in the videos. Not that some aren’t porn star level hot but the majority of women are just as gross as we are. In my experience porn messes with my perception not all dudes are like me but for me porn is like getting a cheeseburger when I should be hunting for a steak.

[–]Heybuddyyyyyy3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

The problem is these fools jerk it like 10+x daily and do nothing else...of course they will feel amazing after they finally leave the house.

[–]putconfac1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well i confess there is a correlation of frequency and age when you were exposed to pornography.

The younger you star PMO the worsen you're physical and mental health will be.

Perhaps for some minority of people the effects are negligible BUT this only proves either way PMO only push you further from your best self.

[–]deathhandmachiavelli2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

I've always wondered why the "fap vs. no fap" issue is so big.

Does it really even make a fucking difference?

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Learning how bad porn is for you mentally and physically will teach you what kind of difference.

[–]deathhandmachiavelli0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

So is the issue "fap vs. no fap" or "porn vs. no porn."

I didn't see anything about porn in the title.

I am not interested in porn myself, its boring AF.

I prefer everything that goes with real relationships with women.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Except /NoFap is largely correlated with porn. Is it not?

[–]deathhandmachiavelli0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Perhaps. I don't know enough about the issue to automatically make that connection.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll tell you: it is.

[–]hoopingblob1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Personally to me I see no difference when I don't fap. It doesn't really correlate to problems that I have and tbh I fap and still have sex which is really good. I think it just depends on the person.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

What’s the problem with getting a quick nut in, and then going about your day? That sounds better to me then having that urge linger with me throughout the whole day and affect my work and thinking. With a quick nut, you get it out of the way then and there. Am I wrong?

[–]SidMRP7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's for guys who are yanking 24/7 to increasingly degenerate porn. When they stop pulling off they see benefits.
People like us who'd five finger shuffle every two or three days like a normal person would see no benefit.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Porn in general is bad. I don't believe /NoFap is just for porn addicts.

[–]astonboi01[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I feel completely different. I use the energy and motivation no fap gives me and channel it into my daily life. It makes perfect sense as to why it works, the more sensitive you are to dopamine the more motivation you have.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well for me, I just quickly get it over with which allows me to clear my mind and not have sexual urges interrupt my thoughts. I don’t jerk off very often and at the end of the day, you gotta do what is most productive for you right? I don’t necessarily feel lower energy after jerking it, it’s just that I lose that sexual urge that was bothering me earlier.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Every man has sexual urges, but I'm not some savage who has to pull on my hotdog or I can't f-F-fucking work.

[–]slap2butts1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

The problem with quick nut everyday is your dependency on bodily urges. You must have discipline and learn to resist, in life. That is what trp preaches.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I go with the flow of myself. I nut and get it out of the way so i can focus on other more important stuff. It’s almost like a chore if you will. It doesn’t take up that much time either. What’s most important for productivity is a clear mind. I do what works for me you do what works for you.

[–]slap2butts0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I dont care what you do. Go stick a knife. Just answered to you’re “am i wrong” question.

[–]SteveUrkel9990 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Quitting porn was the very good choice and I did notice how my depression and desperation started to fade away. Stop masturbating if you don't have girlfriend to have sex with it's insane. I've tried it and wet dreams was killing me, sometimes I could get couple of them at the same night. I've tried it couple of times to see what are the effects and I only once lasted around twenty days. I was so tense, nervous and pissed off that everybody on my work was telling me wtf it's wrong with me.

For those who have girlfriend for a regular sex, you don't have to masturbate and quitting porn in this case it's a great thing, at least I can say it for myself. Masturbating less often, only once a week gets me just fine.

Another reason I don't like NoFap because I think that it's designed for the Beta male to even more suppress their sexuality. Al that mantra you have to treat women with respect and etc. If you work out and looks great, behave strong, masculine and dominant women expect you to be sexual with them, it's the nature thing. They will be more sexual toward you in this case as well.

[–]genital-love0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

nofap is a buncha nerds who don't have sex

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

That makes no sense.

NoFap - nerds who get none

Watch porn - pseudo-intellectual pussy smasher

[–]putconfac1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The level of rationalizing a bad habit makes me doubt the guys from this subs.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They gotta work their hamster because they have to COOOOOM.

[–]splash_water0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

sounds like you just use it as a crutch. But you could be who you want to be without it if you worked for it

[–]astonboi01[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah I just notice clear and obvious benefits when I don’t do it. If I feel good by abstaining from masturbation then why not

[–]Immuchtooawesome0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Both TRP and nofap have some fans that proselytize to the point that it becomes annoying. The hardest pills to swallow must be taken willingly.

[–]putconfac2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its because the beneficial impact was so big, sudden and life changing some people turned it a semi-religion.

It did wonders for me to the point I'm fascinated with the science and biology behind it.

[–]1XXXMersenne0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Cus it's a low level solution focused on mere abstinence, rather than going for the real thing: Become attractive; Lift, Game, Evolve paradigm for solid frame when interacting with chicks.

Then you don't need to fape cus you're in abundance with women, it doesn't even enter the picture. issa cope.

Become wealthy enough for coupons cuttin & skipping coffee looks dumb

Become so attractive that self stimulation becomes unintelligible

[–]putconfac0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Wrong; you are leaving a bad habit an addiction.

[–]1XXXMersenne1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

if you're into the snailpaced self-help 12steppe programme– shure

Or just raise your standards: Get dope Sober Game & Fuck human women IRL; Girlfriend up when u stop going out for a while & Channel virility into creative, intelligent pursuits that satisfy soul and so on. Bonus if generative of real value to others!

[–]astonboi01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No fap corrects your Brian chemistry which makes your game better. It’s alright saying do this and that but people need manageable steps they can take to improve themselves.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

/nofap has absolutely NOTHING to do with TRP.

The freaks over there brigade here regularly, but there is zero correlation whatsoever.

If you can't keep your hands off your dick for more than 15 min, TRP cannot help you,

and no other forum either, especially not the cult ideology bullshit preached on /nofap & Co.

They need professional help. That crap does not belong here, at all.

They're welcome to lurk and learn, but not when they start posting their insanity,

as if this 0.001% of totally deranged losers have the answer for all of humanity.

[–]putconfac0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The Red Pill is Quarantined and constantly mocked.

NoFap is praised outside the internet because it has obvious benefits people are entering relationships, having sex instead of waking.

Who do you think are the "Freaks".

Don't get me wrong i love this sub but for fuck sake be open minded.

NoFap works because You were a porn addict you were sick all along there wasn't anything wrong with you, girls are attracted to your healthy selft because you were lonely you developed

1.coping mechanism

  1. Escapism,

  2. Depression.

  3. Became sociopathic

  4. Decreased IQ

[–]TheDopestPope-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's mostly teenagers and super religious squares. They all can't take a step back and realize just how hilarious and cringey their posts are.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

'Cause watching porn is so hip and liberating, right? Pft.

[–]TheDopestPope1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dude ive seen posts about them crying to family about their jerking off addiction like its heroin or something. And its ironically a huge circle jerk l. Its great for its audience though, 14-18 year old boys

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Are you saying porn isn't an addiction?

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[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not interested.

No thanks.

[–]Snowaey-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah man, I haven't touched my dick for approximately 93 hours and yesterday night like 3 bitches just came up to me and sat on my cock #nofap #preach

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'd rather they have this mentality than cranking their pecker, watching something that impacts them mentally and emotionally in a bad way.

[–]putconfac-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

people dismissing NoFap be like;

"LMAO I can go to the kitchen and eat 3 slices of Pizza and I won't be fat all of the sudden eating healthy food is placebo so people saying eating junk food is making us fat that just pseudoscience"

[–]francois_the_french-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's completely different things, but ok

[–]putconfac1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

[–]francois_the_french-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I know what an anology is, thank you very much. The thing is, a healthy diet is medically proved to be good, whereas a strict nofap is not.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's why you have sex instead of touching your dick.

[–]its-mystery-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once a week is fine as far as I know

[–]PM_Happy_Puppy_Pics-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

If I go more than a few days without jerkin it, I feel horny af, and just about every woman looks appealing to me. I admit I have an almost renewed sense of energy, but it isn't profound or interesting, it is just about getting in the pants of a chick. Girls that I would usually never consider attractive seem hot as fuck when I haven't beat the snake for a week or so. I mean legit gross girls with greasy hair but obese bouncy boobs, seem sorta fuckable. And I have a type according to Reddit, I apparently only like skinny Asian girls if you ask my history tab (although I love all kinds of attractive women from all over the planet- just like you if you are still reading this shit.)

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[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's why you don't lean on porn as a crutch and learn TRP to get laid/become a more rounded man.

[–]RevolutionaryPea7-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nofap itself has a weird cult vibe to it in which people focus solely on a long streak to solve all their problems. But it's a bit silly. The real problem is porn. That can and will fuck up your brain. I do believe everyone here should be aiming to never fap again, though. I haven't flapped since since some time last summer when I wasn't getting laid. But now I cum with and into women only. The sex is so much better without porn and masturbation.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Listen man, nofap started out great for me but turned out being hell and very obsessive.

This obviously varies from person to person and all the other variables but just dont take it too srsly and fap whenever you get the urge (dont restrict yourself just to keep the streak) would be my recommendation.

Also the "superpowers" aka benefits of a streak like confidence n shit gets less the more you do it for.

[–]IXseed-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

With everything on this sub I say do you, boo boo.

I don't go for longer than a few days but by the 3rd day I'll put into fuck anything that moves, which is never good.

As for the science behind it, the only thing I've seen is that blowing your load just numbs your T receptors for like...3/4 hours. Nothing saying that even if you jack it more than once daily has anything to do with T levels at all. I'd pin that more to diet.

I tell ppl to fuck off regardless if I've blown my load that day but I feel you.

[–]astonboi01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s to do with dopamine more than testosterone

[–]Truedemocracy5-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

No fap works. That said - the problem isn’t that you shouldn’t jack off ever, that will lead to terrible decision making. But if you’re jacking off daily or more then that’s an issue

[–]Fuktiga_mejmejs-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

I think jerking off is good to get your mind off stupid women and to withdraw attention, as for my dopamine system, that shits already pretty fucked from other stuff hehehe...

[–]putconfac1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

as for my dopamine system, that shits already pretty fucked from other stuff hehehe...

I feel concerned, are you a depressed alcoholic/drug addict ?

[–]Fuktiga_mejmejs-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah my life is great, but i party a lot so the bar i pretty high.

[–]mistral880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hehehe



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