Better physique = Less attention

TRPGaveMeLife · 2019-12-16T11:59:26+00:00

There is an optimum hip to waist ratio that all men desire and once women’s hips go beyond that we don’t find them as attractive.

I wonder if this is like that.

hidden_boi_premium · 2019-12-16T13:02:10+00:00

Yo this is relatable as fuck

Dude you gotta realize chicks are DEATHLY afraid of rejection if you are 2 or 3 whole scores higher than them unless they are SURE you’ll reciprocate

8s and 9s will notice you but they WILL NOT approach bc of the constant people trying to approach them, but if you are alone the whole night they’ll assume your not pre selected even though you’re attractive (club game is not easy friend)

What I have found that works in clubs is chatting up whatever chick comes nearby (likely a 5 or 6) and asking her “know how to dance?” And then using her as your 1st dance partner

Once other people notice you dancing with her more attractive people will give you choosing signals , the shit seems almost cumulative the more people see different girls separately enjoying time with you

Talinor09 · 2019-12-16T12:00:29+00:00

You could be too big - muscles and low bf are great but i’ve never understood the mr Olympia thing.
You mentioned 8-10’s don’t approach - why should they, that’s your job. If you’re only 20 then start going out clubbing and approaching hard. Hell, even use your size as a routine. Literally go up to a girl and say my friend’s said she’s not really into built dudes, what’s your take? Anything to get a convo flowing.
Juicing at 20? Unless your looking at going pro you’re putting your body through a lot of shit that isn’t getting you any pussy. I banged and dated one of the hottest girls in my life when I was about 25% bodyfat.. reconcile that.

C’mon man, ease up on the cheat codes and start looking at things objectively. If you’re big already you don’t need more juice as you’re risking your long-term T-production/fertility. If you’re too big maybe slim down, less can be better. And finally, you’ve already identified your own issues in your post, namely game/internal game. Go out and approach over and over and over.

Haytch1234 · 2019-12-16T12:48:32+00:00

You can be too big according to women. At 5 foot 8, 223 pounds is alot. Too much.

Girls like guys that are muscular but in proportion. 223 pounds is good at 6 foot. Not at 5 foot 8.

FitFinancier · 2019-12-16T11:35:46+00:00

Can understand where you're coming from (fellow big dude and competitor here) I've certainly experienced this myself. I have some thoughts but I'll wait for some ECs to chime in. It’s not delusion I can tell you that much, their actions speak louder than their words if you’ve got great game. Your physique isn’t likely getting you disqualified.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2019-12-16T11:49:59+00:00

I think the idea of : You can be too big, really is a thing. Most TRP-ers wont wanna hear it, but I can see this all around. yes some girls love the really pumped up guys, but I don't believe for a second that women prefer a Mr Olympia physique over a guy who is stong, but not narcissistic strong.

You need to have a specific way of thinking to get to that level of physique and in most cases, I dare to say it's a mental illness. Women are narcissists, why the fuck would they find another narcissist that's so clearly advertising it?

Let's say I'm talking underwear model VS IFBB bodybuilder, most women would prefer the underwear model look over pure fucking mass. So lifting and physique helps, UP to some point.

rugged79 · 2019-12-16T12:38:33+00:00

You're 20. She's 20. But while you're putting in long-term work, most these women are putting in little to no work in the gym. Mostly, they're capitalizing on unhealthy diets and fast metabolism to achieve the look.

Also, if you're talking about this particular season, it's "Netflix n' Chill" hibernation season. Most women chose some low-maintenence dude to fuck and eat pizza with around early fall season. They'll be free and again mid-spring.

Dboy2233 · 2019-12-16T13:42:15+00:00

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GibsMeDatNog · 2019-12-16T16:47:41+00:00

5’8” and 223/10% at age 20 with that much gear? Dude these really are not good and healthy choices you are making. Congrats on the gains but you are going to pay big time in the long run. I suggest immediately cutting out the juice.

I think you’re going to need to hit the Jersey Shore to have girls approach you at that size.

WhatRemainsAfter · 2019-12-16T15:01:26+00:00

You may be hulk physically but a pussy mentally.

Go approach and exude confidence. Why are you so much caught in overthinking?!

Meditate and build a frame.

And remember size /= strength.

Watch this video and learn

Truedemocracy5 · 2019-12-16T16:05:03+00:00

Jesus Christ 5’8 at that weight and bf% is MASSIVE

I lift regularly, am 6’3 at 210 and 13% body fat and have women approach me all the time.

Tbh at that level, and it’s damn near impossible to reach naturally, you are likely “too big”. Women bodybuilders may be into it but women are into a strong and athletic body. If you’re built like a boulder it can turn off many women

RPNorvell · 2019-12-16T17:36:25+00:00

Your body is an outlier. As such, you've noticed that a smaller percentage of women find muscle freaks attractive, there really is an "over the top" threshold.

Whether it's an actual physiological response driven evobiologically or just rejection because bodybuilders are seen as narcissistic ocd freaks that spend their lives in the gym and only eat tuna is moot.

SalporinRP · 2019-12-16T21:58:24+00:00

Some people are gonna hate but there is such a thing as being too big.

If you’re 223 at 5’8 you most likely look like a boulder. In my experience girls are attracted to guys with athlete bodies, not bodybuilder physiques.

But if you truly want to go pro then fuck it and just accept it.

I’m 5’9 and I’ve been as high as a lean 200 and as low as 160 and the sweet spot for me was pretty much right in the middle (where I am at right now).

McVaghunter · 2019-12-16T14:15:05+00:00

5ft 8 223 lb

Congratulations, you're starting to become one of these giant power lifters that only other giant men find sexually attractive. You should've stayed at 170 lbs by reducing body fat and increasing muscle mass.

JustGoogleItBoy · 2019-12-16T15:04:05+00:00

How is your face looking? I get moon face easily. When I am off cycle I get so much more attention from the girls then now when I am around your stats and with bloated face.

priapula · 2019-12-16T15:21:54+00:00

Id like to add, your confidence shouldnt depend on women.Pussy come and goes

muricanwerewolf1 · 2019-12-16T17:19:46+00:00

https://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/fundamentals/looks-and-style/ideal-body

Good looking loser has some ideas about this. That said, it sounds like your real limiting factor is your game.

MattyAnon · 2019-12-16T17:36:12+00:00

but could girls instantly disqualify themselves from me as my physique comes across as intimidating?

Yes.

Can they actually see your physique though? If you hide it, they might not see how good it is.

Not sure from personal experience, but the way I think it works is this: most girls are not super into very heavily built guys.... but the ones who are: REALLY are.

I feel like the 8-10s just dont approach and the 5-6s think im out of their league?

The league thing isn't entirely true.... there will always be some girls whose league you're in.

Basically women don't directly approach men.

You do need to learn how to approach them though. Great physique is an awesome start, but now you gotta learn how to approach women and maintain attraction and comfort long enough to bang them.

. I feel like im currently in my biggest slump of confidence...when I know im at my personal best, just obtained a better job, prepping for a contest that is 14 weeks away, put the most effort into grooming I ever have. This whole situation just confuses me.

You probably thought that being awesome is enough to have women jump on your dick. Sadly this isn't true: they need approaching, charming, comforting and leading into the bedroom.

2019-12-16T18:40:16+00:00

Regardless don’t ever change that to make women happy. Those are some impressive stats man. Congrats. You don’t get 5’8 225 at 10% bodyfat without a lot of dedication and hard work whether you are juicing or not.

gimmesumchikin · 2019-12-16T22:31:02+00:00

Im 5ft 8 and currently around 223 @ 10-11%.

mind posting pics? This is pretty unbelievable to me lol. Most ripped guy I know was my ex-marine teacher and he was 5'8 190. And prob a bit above 10% bf

wowkwo · 2019-12-16T23:32:57+00:00

You're too big man, go for a natural fit look.

You prob need to lose 40 pounds.

athrowaway-9001 · 2019-12-17T00:27:03+00:00

Would love to see a pic of what your physique looks like before I say anything. Also what do your compounds look like too?

You need to focus on building your confidence, just like any other muscle.

iCeeYouP · 2019-12-16T12:48:22+00:00

Face and height bro. Unless you're at the beach, muscles are a plus but not the main attraction. Maybe your bodyfat is higher than you think and your face could be not as well defined as it was when you weighed less

Title	Better physique = Less attention
Author	RSMainzzz
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Date	December 16, 2019 11:31 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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