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Why does my good guy game work so well?

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December 24, 2019
171 upvotes

Im extremely sweet to chicks. Lots of kissing emojis, lots of you have beautiful hair, smile, eyes, etc. Never beautiful THEM but features.

In person, I just smile the whole time, ask questions and gaze at their eyes. I get tons of shit tests that I just reply with some BS. Pressure flip is my go to since it comes the most natural.

However, some people here say never compliment a girl or w.e. For me it works great. Usually fuck on first date if not second. Not saying I’m perfect, my openings could use a lot of work... but overall it hasn’t failed me.

Most girls always tell me they can’t read me and don’t know if I’m a sweetheart or an asshole piece of shit. I just give them a shit eating grin that says “try and find out”

So could my game be even better without the compliments or different strokes for different folks?


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Title Why does my good guy game work so well?
Author latinmax68
Upvotes 171
Comments 119
Date 24 December 2019 08:00 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/302890
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/ef6afp/why_does_my_good_guy_game_work_so_well/
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[–][deleted] 278 points279 points  (29 children) | Copy

Maybe that’s who you are at core and that’s why it works well. If being a good guy comes naturally and girls like it more that way, why change it? Be who you are rather than a chad wannabe

[–]latinmax6879 points80 points  (25 children) | Copy

I think so too. I am a romantic guy but I’m also really sexual. I always keep it sexual and flip it back on them.

[–]mrpoopistan39 points40 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m also really sexual

That's it right there.

Most likely, you're also reasonably attractive to start with, otherwise, this would be deemed really creepy fucker behavior.

This is the old PUA stuff about calibration. You have to tweak your game to your conditions.

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (15 children) | Copy

I am a humble person too, not so romantic though. I tried to be the asshole in the past and all it did was to get hate from people because of not being authentic and looking like a try hard. So I am just acting how it comes from inside, I get more respect and love from everyone. Just be who you are man then you will succeed. That being said, never let anyone to walk over you

[–]SerialATA_Killer69 points70 points  (14 children) | Copy

"I am a humble person" is the most humble thing I've ever read

[–]Sylvester_Sterone35 points36 points  (9 children) | Copy

“I’m the most humble person whose 6’4....”

[–]SerialATA_Killer10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

...and those are two measurements

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

6’1 to be exact

[–]RedKepler4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

And honest

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

Nickname is “slapper” in college

[–]PandaLitter-3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Explain?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Shouldn’t be too hard to understand dawg

[–]SerialATA_Killer1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

He slaps

[–]BloodSurgery8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

No other way to know he is humble via the internet other than him saying it.

[–]Bascome8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

I am way better at being humble than he is.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm hot as fuck but I'm also very humble

[–]Diche_Bach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I uffed your Mom, but she said I was a sweetie pie.

[–]sinkmyteethin10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's about the energy you give. They feel youre authentic ergo true confidence. Keep it up.

[–]HighHowHighAreYou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is this a horoscope sign? Cause me too! And girls seem to trust me (their own words) because ”I give off that vibe”

[–]LazerSpin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You still need to play by the other rules though. I’m in a similar boat where I like holding hands and being lovey-dovey. But if I do this more than her or give her more attention/compliments then gorls read that as needy. It’s not true, just what I’m in the mood for, but I don’t blame them for thinking that way.

Always remember the 2/3 rule of Thomasi.

[–]red2hilt-5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy

You are right that according to red pill general teachings what you've described doesn't work - you have to be a challenge to them and tease them from the onset.

Therefore since you say: "Usually fuck on first date if not second" I have these theories:

  1. Maybe you are getting with 5's and 6's, very fat women or women over 45? If not then
  2. Are you like 6'3"? (191 cm)?

either of these would explain what you experience. Could you elaborate?

source: been reading TRP for a couple of years.

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[–]xxx69harambe69xxx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tall people tutorial island

[–]ArnoldT100021 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bitches can smell fake from a mile away. If you aren’t fine with who you are, they WILL sense it. If you are, however, genuine AND have a strong frame... man, you will become a pussy magnet.

Bitches love a guy who loves himself, and nothing dries them up faster than a guy who’s too scared to be who he is.

If you’re a funny guy be funny, if you’re a reserved guy be reserved, if you’re a good guy be good. Whatever. Just make sure it’s genuinely you, don’t be a needy little bitch while doing so, have an abundance mindset, and put yourself first. Bitches will fall in line for you.

Of course all of this goes along with the main RP tenets. You gotta be attractive, masculine, non-needy, dominant and such, hence why you make yourself into the prize and know the game.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s the right mindset brother

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ya

[–]nexther87 points88 points  (0 children) | Copy

You sound like a teaser who treats them like little girls. They like that stuff.

It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it.

[–]CHEEKY_CUNT172 points73 points  (7 children) | Copy

Theres a difference between being a genuinely nice person, while still being confident, strong, interesting etc., and being a “nice guy” who lets women walk all over them, holds the door and puts his jacket in the puddle for them to step through. Sounds like you’ve got the better of the two.

[–]latinmax6813 points14 points  (6 children) | Copy

Haha yeah. I’ve had to use the E (exit) of DARE a few times. I’m not afraid to walk away if I’m not getting what I want

[–]user201806204 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Huh?

What is "dare"... And exit? I've not heard these terms before.

[–]latinmax686 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

One thing that’s really helped. Always DARE never DEER. Check it out. It’s on TRP

[–]user201806201 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I looked for sidebar stuff... I'm not seeing it. Link?

[–]SupremeBBC7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]user201806207 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks man.

For future readers... Bad = Defend, Explain, Excuse, Rationalize Good = deflect, Agree and amusedly amplify, repeat, exit.

[–]mediandirt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just Google it. It's the top result

[–]hatefulreason73 points74 points  (0 children) | Copy

authenticity and back-bone

[–]Astoree33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

What the other guy said. Your actions and tone are congruent with your words. In other words, you're likable and want to get in their pants and they know it but it's your authenticity that attracts them even more.

I understand it because I'm the same, naturally good guy. TRP principles however still apply.

[–]Pluglord0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Does it bother you too when guys on here emphasize on the bs of oh “complimenting girls is beta” and never give her validation” etc? Not saying I’m an ass kissing “nice guy” but I’m naturally a flirty but romantic type of guy and never felt beta doing this so these comments always confused me.

[–]RedJourney2326 points27 points  (3 children) | Copy

If you look good enough this strategy will work just fine

[–]Pluglord0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Is this why guys on her always emphasize on not complimenting and giving girls validation?

[–]RedJourney230 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I think the more attractive you are the less you need to have her chase your validation/attention. Instead of needing to give off the perception of high value behaviorally, the perception of high value is already cast because of your appearance. Thus freeing you up to give her your attention/validation more freely. Without overdoing it. Does that make sense?

[–]Pluglord0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Makes a lot of sense. Just confused me how much everyone here makes it seem like giving a girl a compliment or any validation is an immediate death sentence. Being a tall and decent looking guy myself, this confusion made things way more complicated than they should’ve been for me..

[–]MasculineRP14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you want to "level up" with girls try and utilise push/pull (Todd V has a heap about it on youtube if you're interested). That alone helped me a heap.

When I was a little younger I'd run a somewhat similar game to you and it worked for sure. If it's congruent with your personality and who you are it will always work with the women who find that attractive.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any of his many videos on push pull better than the rest?

I ask bc two of them are movie length

[–]6PoolVsTrumpWall10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know what you mean op. If a girl has nice eyes fucking tell her. She will swoon at the simplest and most tired words if they’re authentic and have psychic energy

[–]Jesusfeminist22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

Love bombing game, works for some guys

[–]PandaLitter3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do you have more info on love bombing

[–]Questionnaire710 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

This isnt really love bombing but google does have loads of info on it

[–]liquorbaron5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

So... you're charming... is what you're saying...

[–]qiis3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

What do you look like? Rate your face and how tall are you?

Also, are you gaming ugly girls, average ones, or 9s?

[–]latinmax685 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don’t think I can be objective with myself but with other girls I’d say 6-7.5s. They’re attractive but not hot as fuck. That’s my next target.

[–]red2hilt0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

How tall are you?

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

5'6"

[–]red2hilt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you answering for you or OP (who's now gone.) If you're saying OP's height, where did you get that?

[–]jaw86254 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I actually have very similar game, and it works well for me too. I also look at them like I want to ravish them then entire time. Break eye contact just to check them out. I've fucked on many, many a first date this way

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[–]gitpullhoes1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Chuckled everytime I read ‘jup’ was that a typo or is that a thing

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

He's just Mexican bro

[–]king_smirker4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s almost 2021 and people still give credit to that bad boy shit. It was all brainwash by nerds for nerds in the pre-social-media times. Those nerds sucked with women and saw the criminals getting laid and thought they had to be one. Authenticity of emotions and not giving a fuck is what gets you laid, not putting up a front which anyone can easily see through.

[–]boy_named_su10 points11 points  (12 children) | Copy

You're probably handsome. And you attract the kinda chick that thinks they want that. I'm guessing they dont stay around for the long haul or do filthy shit for you

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[–]liquorbaron16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy

As much as I'll get downvoted for this this lookism is real. But that's blackpill and not redpill. If you're top tier in looks everything that normal guys have to deal with goes out the window. You'll end up with more comfort tests instead of shit tests.

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[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Black pill is like, women will profess their love for serial killers and terrorists if the man is good looking and masculine enough. Look at the Boston bomber ending up on Rolling Stone magazine and all the women swooning thinking he couldn't be a bad guy based on his looks. Mother fucker deserves to burn in hell.

[–]gitpullhoes0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

How filthiler does it get than having women lick our buttholes? Curious

[–]kenspiracy662 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Way filthier

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Get them to lick their own buttholes after months/years of stretching and flexibility work. That is the true goal.

[–]gitpullhoes0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Thats duisgusting bro

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Oh please like you wouldn't tongue punch your own fart box if you were bendy enough. Can't just be me.

[–]gitpullhoes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I dont fart I only shart

[–]fratercicero[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It sounds like you are just a very physically attractive guy. When you’re good looking it doesn’t matter what you say or do, women will just want to get with you.

[–]aliezsid2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wish I could give an input but I hardly talk to people

[–]skunkbear4442 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lots of game styles work with a segment of girls, but not others.

If you are getting the girls you want don't change. Shifting to the bad guy can be a tool to deal with crazier girls, stubborn girls, bad girls, shady girls, damaged girls. It can also be a great tool to deal with bad behavior. Sometimes girls don't want you to be the carefree guy with loose boundaries. Sometimes they want a strong and cutting show of distaste for poor behavior to be "put in their place" for bad behavior verbally.

For me being the good guy never worked and I got burned. Being the "bad guy" and an aggressive partier worked for me the best. Maybe that is a reflection of me being congruent with my true self and I attract girls attracted to that true self.

People look down on being a chameleon, but a chameleon will have the most success with widest range of girls by shifting yourself to push her buttons.

[–]vondoom9003 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Decent looking probably.

[–]thrwy754791 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

How old are you, whereabouts do you live, and how do you meet these girls?

Most girls always tell me they can’t read me and don’t know if I’m a sweetheart or an asshole piece of shit.

You're probably not being as sweet as you think.

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Depends. Most girls walk on clouds made of cotton candy sniffing their own perfection every day. All it takes a dude that doesn't buy their self indulging behavior to challenge them.

[–]thrwy754790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's exactly it.

Condescension, and apathy can be blatant, and obvious; it can also be subtle, and ambiguous.

An example is the phrase "bless your heart" common in the southern US to sometimes used sincerely to convey concern, and other times in an insulting manner.

[–]Lifteador1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Frame

[–]rizzyfromthe91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You might be a romantic, which can work

If they can’t read you, you’re doing something right

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]Gawernator1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m not sure who said to not compliment girls. But there is a right and wrong way to go about it. Everything has nuance.

[–]catbrainland1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lovebombing/charm got summarily bad rep in PUA, probably because many guys in there come from a "nice guy" background. Like alcoholics that can't drink recreationally anymore. But it really is that simple - be as glib as possible, yet don't be a doormat/pleaser.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do what works best for you.

This is a great PSA to the keyboard warriors of the manosphere that you still have to be a legitimate member of society and a nice person in order to get laid.

Why your compliments work:

  1. They're genuine

  2. They're regulated. You're not complimenting her every move or putting her up on a pedestal. Everything she does isn't the greatest thing that ever happened. The reason 'don't give compliments' is given as beginner strategy is because it leads to pedestalization, and most beginners use compliments as love tokens I.e. I compliment her 1000 times=1 blowjob. That's not the way it works.

  3. They're mixed up. You're not being a 'nice guy'. You're mixing it up with IDGAF shit test passes, using pressure flips (my favourite too). Most guys who give compliments it's just a constant stream. You're proving to women you're a legitimate member of society but you don't always colour inside the lines. You're keeping them guessing.

  4. You're complimenting their work, not their inherent characteristics. These are universally acknowledged in dating games as the best kind of compliments. You're complimenting their hair, nails etc. These are things women work on in order to attract a man. You're communicating you noticed, you're sexual, and you reward good behaviour and looking good for you. You're not complimenting where she came from, the size of her boobs, and yes, her personality, things she has much less control over, the last one because her interests are just an amalgamation of interests of exes who got her into it.

  5. You're attractive and you know it. You are the prize.

[–]dizzy_dizzle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Guessing you are very handsome

[–]Siyuen_Tea1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's because your being good not nice. A nice guy collapses under shit tests. They tell you right there " not sure if your a sweetheart or an asshole " . If a beta was watching you, he'd call you an asshole for not taking her seriously. People say don't compliment because most betas think compliments get the girl. They don't, passing the shit tests do. When she starts working to win you over is when you start complimenting her. The compliment should be a reward, not a gift.

[–]bbqyak1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

You look like a fuccboi. I don't mean that in a bad way - you look like a guy that gets pussy. So even when you say beta shit that would turn girls off it comes across as playerish.

Edit: should also say you have the swagger of somebody who gets laid. It's not just about looks.

I think Shawn Mendes is a good example of this. Looks and at times acts like a sweet wholesome dude, but at the same time there's something about him you know he's not pure. That shit drives girls crazy.

[–]zoom1234570 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

what is it about Mendes that makes you think he's not pure? I agree, but can't pinpoint why?

[–]ogkushinjapan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

See any interview with him and an attractive interviewer. The way he stares at them at an angle for a sec then back to good boi.

[–]Truedemocracy51 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You fucking these girls? These relationships lasting more than 1-2 months? (When love bombing turns into this guy is pathetic)

And if you’re being sexual then it likely offsets most of it. Good guys and nice guys often don’t know how to escalate and that’s what kills them

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[–]Truedemocracy5-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agree

[–]zav25-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

True. And I swear to God I had to learn this the hard way. Meaning I had to be the fake alpha, but deep down beta, and I can confirm it.

Real alphas, with pure authentic confidence, are actually good people, complement others when they deserve it, try to help people in all kinds of ways... they just put themselves above anything and everything if ever needed be. That's what alpha means.

[–]nowboarding0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I’m curious what your texting looks like in this way. Would you mind posting some samples?

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

"7 pm Friday at the bar?"

Just like how youre supposed to text

[–]XT3M30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this. you just need to balance your sweetness and asshole ness. the problem here is that too many people are so far on 1 end of the spectrum and ignore the other side. most of the people here make getting girls harder than it needs to be because of this lack of balance.

[–]E9er0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

if it works why fuck with it. it’s a means to an end goal. and you’re still getting there regardless of your path so fuck it! i’m kinda the same but different. i start neutral then work the compliments then move on to the asshole. then the ordering around mixed with kino. so it’s like they’re like what’s going on??? they end up saying i’m “mean” but i tell them get me a drink and open it for me and they’re happy to oblige! but i flip the script with random gestures like a candy here a nice note there a comforting kino or w.e while continuing the asshole ordering around. they just smile when they say i’m mean then it snowballs to more girls so the point is if it’s working you do you boi!

[–]3chazthundergut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If it's working for you keep it up.

But can you see how the average frustrated guy should avoid texting a bunch of emojis and showing girls with compliments?

[–]AA70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I thought I was the only one this shit worked for.

[–]legend5030 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Many people here are very angry at women for various reasons. And since you can be a dick and still get girls that's much more easy when you feel like that.

I also have your style and worked wonders for me this summer. Even though I'd like to improve for all various scenarios

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good guy game works as well as bad guy game if you're attractive. It's "nice guy" game that pisses women off and leaves men with their dick in their hands.

It can turn a woman on just as much to say "You look so beautiful and sexy right now I want to rip your clothes off" as it would to be dominant as fuck and just get to the fucking.

It's when you buy her flowers for a friend and expect a beej in return without saying it, then being a bitch when you don't get it that you're being a nice guy.

Rule 1:Be attractive Rule 2: Don't be unattractive

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's because of your good looks i presume?

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good guy with a strong pimp hand will do just as well as a Dark Triad bad boy, and less chance of running into Lucifer's daughter, too. It's really what should be the goal of TRP

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are qualifying yourself as an LTR material that they want to lock down, maybe. You are relatively high SMV and you have prospects, so when you send the comfort signals, they think they can LTR you, and then they will hook up with you thinking it will lead to something.

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When u optimize ur masculinity ur not gonna be a douchebag cause if ur actually embracing ur masculinity your gonna be confident but also happy not an whey serial killer. Look at the natural chads I remember seeing this one pornstar dude and he did the same shit but u can tell it was just his natural way but the woman loved it. Us men are supposed to think there eyes and hair are beautiful problem happens when u say that in hope of there response instead of just speaking your mind

[–]IXseed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've been listening to some Patrice O'Neal (RIP) over the last few days and he has a friend like you. He's all lovey dovey, gives compliments and sounds like a nice guy.

He also is living with a wife, a gf, and goes out getting strange when he wants to.

The thing about this game is whatever "strategy" you choose you gotta be RIGHTEOUS with it. The reason why compliments don't work for a lot of dudes is the same reason why being "an asshole" doesn't....they don't feel it in their soul.

Regardless of the compliments and all that shit, your frame is what matters. If you tell her you like her hair but it's coming from a position of power where you don't expect shit in return, it hits different then if it were to come from a position of neediness where you're hoping to "win her over"

The best level of game is when you're no longer "gaming" and it just comes off naturally. When you DGAF and hold frame, amazing things happen. The rules of TRP when it comes to women are to help you get there.

[–]gitpullhoes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

jajaja

[–]JedYorks-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

This redpill shit only works if you’re attractive, do the same thing as a ugly male and it’s game over

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[–]JedYorks-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being a loser is genetics

[–]juliank47-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are for sure not just a regular dude that doesn’t lift or look after themself. I am in the top 1% of males in terms of looks and physique and I can testify that girls will throw themselves at you regardless of how much of an asshole (or extremely nice in your case) you are. Looking good makes one hell of a difference.

[–]luccisanolean-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do u practice nofap?



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