Most serial killers, maniacs and rapists were sex havers, had families and children rather than being incels

I wasn't ranting, you just got triggered by the content of the statement. Lots of dudes that get laid love beating women and are the ones that actually get to do it by proximity. Having sex or not doesn't change men with issues against women. Those came before they reached sexual age. Ted Bundy had no problem getting women.

I doubt any of these dudes are jealous of serial killers specifically, just any guy getting laid, period. I think they like making the point that's been made enough, that 'being nice' and 'being good' will not make you attractive. The serial killer example is just an extreme one. Upset people love extremes.

If you had to scour this far back for a bad non example, then your belief about 'this subreddit is oddly jealous of serial killers' isn't looking very sound. If it were the case with this sub, then you could just comment on those comments when they come, which should be frequent enough in this supposed case.

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People didn't realize he was a psycho.

Are you purposely missing the points I'm making? I was talking about men having issues with women is not about having sex or not. The issue came before. Whether they have sex or not after, does not change this.

No one told men being a good person got them laid.

Let's use more clearer words. Young men are told to respect women and be gentlemen when trying to get a girlfriend (therefore, leading to sex) That is the general, generic message and consensus in society. And it is false and lacking detail. Or at best, telling boys how to boil water, but not how to make a meal.

Except there's an abundance of you guys whining about serial killers getting laid, which is fucking sad.

I'm not whining and I'm not 'you guys.' Try arguing ideas, and not at people if you want anyone to take you seriously. Your biased motives are apparent, or at best, oblivious.

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Why should pointing out that attractive criminals get off easier warrant being deeply hated? It was an exaggeration to say "it's fine". Obviously it isn't morally justified nor do they get off with zero consequences, but they do seem to get less visceral hate and mockery than ugly socially inept losers who in the vast majority of cases never commit any crime other than maybe saying edgy or offensive things online.

They hide it better because they are attractive and charming. Even the rapists and criminals who are publicly known to be guilty seem to get less hate than the incels do. Some women have even fantasized about them.

I would actually say the same is true of successful thieves. They aren't fine in the sense they are morally justified but they are less hated and capture more fascination/worship.

To be clear I think everything else being equal, being a criminal is detrimental, immoral and not something to strive for. My point is just that I think incels are actually hurt more for their looks and lack of social skills than for their supposed psychotic thoughts most of which are never even acted upon.

For instance if there was a magic genie that appeared and offered all incels the choice between:

Fixing their appearance and social confidence but keep their toxic mindset
Keeping their current looks and social skills but removing their toxic mindset

I 100% think they would benefit more and receive less hate if they chose the former.

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I don't think all incels should be condemned for the crimes that some incels commit, especially if they aren't hateful or don't fully subscribe to the ideology some incels have.

I mean look just because some people of certain nationalities or religions have committed heinous crimes doesn't mean that every person within that group is like that or deserves to be shunned, but we can still be against the toxic ideologies of the group as a whole...Toxic ideologies of the group can still be attacked regardless of how many individuals act on them.

So let's not act like there aren't some extremely toxic ideas that have been circulated in the incel spheres including the complete dehumanization of women. These places are echo chambers so there's naturally gonna be a lot of circle jerking and exaggerations for coping purposes. And let's not act like the ideas that spread within a certain group won't gain a cult-like following where critical thinking is discouraged.

And hey look, if someone is just a good guy that just happens to be an involuntary celibate, but is overall a good peaceful individual, I have no issues with them. But I won't stop debating, disagreeing, and voicing my opinion about this ideology, that is all there is to it.

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Title	Most serial killers, maniacs and rapists were sex havers, had families and children rather than being incels
Author	acron5n5
Upvotes	67
Comments	111
Date	January 1, 2021 12:16 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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