If each gender temporarily became the opposite one, they would no longer have problems with one another.

NarniaFox · 2020-03-17T17:04:23+00:00

I don't have problems with an average man as long as he can control himself and doesnt bother me with his desire to have sex whenever it's possible.

It's easy to feel sorry for lonely guys, when they aren't bitter and aggressive, but I think I wouldn't be too empathetic towards a bitter and agressive woman either. Yes, you got hurt, it doesn't mean that other people should accept your shitty behavior.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2020-03-17T16:10:42+00:00

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twopeas3296 · 2020-03-17T17:36:54+00:00

So we should empathize with men who hate us because they’re... sexually frustrated?

popfriday · 2020-03-17T17:50:34+00:00

Women's main issues with men seem to be their "entitlement" to sex and greater propensity towards violence and rage. They see these men as entitled because they simply cannot relate to having such an extraordinarily strong urge for sex. If they were suddenly placed into an average man's testosterone-riddled body, they would INSTANTLY realize that what looks like entitlement to them is actually a desperate, inescapable desire. They would realize that not getting this constantly-nagging, all-consuming desire satisfied can make a madman out of someone. When they inevitably try going for girls, all kinds, and experience a ton of rejection, they will see EXACTLY why the men here act and speak the way do. And the same testosterone that sparks an extremely high sex drive also sparks aggression and low inhibition; things men keep in check but always, by no choice of their own, have brewing.

You all admit to this when it serves you. But the second a woman combats this with “If your need for sex is this animalistic, primal and all consuming, why the FUCK would I trust you in a long term relationship??”

Like honestly who in their right minds would have children and share a household with this non sense?

Men cheating in only dead bedroom situations is a lie. Leave any many man on a weekend trip with his boys or a 2 week travel trip for work. If he can find a way to cheat and get away with it with a hot piece of ass he will. I wish men would just own up to this already.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2020-03-17T15:53:48+00:00

if women ever really understood what was going on in men's heads they'd abort all male babies and eradicate the human race. i have absolutely NO idea why anyone thinks women "empathizing" with men would generate anything but disgust hatred and contempt (and probably vice versa but without the violent ideation)

jigglypuff__0 · 2020-03-17T17:39:02+00:00

If men are such slaves to their dicks they need to own up to the fact that they are cheaters and opportunists.

When your entire gender is known for 90%+ of the rape and murder the occurs worldwide and your biggest complaint is that women don’t like your pp and that’s what makes them more evil than men...you’re lost. You’re coping. No woman will feel bad for you.

Dora_Bowl · 2020-03-17T15:54:20+00:00

Okay, so what if someone does understand all of this, does it automatically lead them to make the same prescriptive conclusions?

OmarNBradley · 2020-03-17T16:27:13+00:00

If they were suddenly placed into an average man's testosterone-riddled body, they would INSTANTLY realize that what looks like entitlement to them is actually a desperate, inescapable desire.

What makes you think that women would be like "oh man this actually does suck" instead of being even more horrified by and afraid of men than they are now? (u/OmarNBradley, 17 March 2020)

They would also quickly realize JUST how many men are aching to use them as a release

Op. cit.

One of the big things is that they'll realize, grimly, how extremely weak they are compared to men,

Op. cit.

Mimoxs · 2020-03-17T17:32:32+00:00

I like how you put male entitlement to sex in quotations to somehow dismiss it's validity but have no issue stating women are picky/virtue signal/prefer tallness as a fact

The fact that the "war" boils down to women having a right to make choices and men having a right to be aggressive predators tells you everything

Pola_Lita · 2020-03-17T17:36:46+00:00

If they were suddenly placed into an average man's testosterone-riddled body, they would INSTANTLY realize that what looks like entitlement to them is actually a desperate, inescapable desire.

If the desire for sex were half as desperate and inescapable as you describe, most men would not be allowed around women at all, would they?

inthegarbageigo · 2020-03-17T16:11:51+00:00

Dang you really made men sound like gross animals and expected this post to bring “understanding” lmao

Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2020-03-17T17:17:51+00:00

This would lead to quarantine faster than coronavirus protocol.

2020-03-17T16:29:51+00:00

Being I have no issues with "women" I have issues with very specific women, but not all women as a group. I don't need to learn how they feel since I've seen enough to get it, nor do I typecast them all into some trope.

I've known nymphos and ice queens, and women always happy and women always unhappy, women who like to be whipped and women who will get angry with a light butt slap. Its almost like they are people.

This is sort of an on the spectrum thing where you can't empathize with others.

bann2787 · 2020-03-17T16:45:22+00:00

But it's more fun to argue and give smug responses, that's why we are here right guys?

Zippo-Cat · 2020-03-17T19:35:34+00:00

Saying "the truth is somewhere in the middle" or "grass is always greener" isn't clever, it's ignorance-fueled just world fallacy.

2020-03-17T22:20:52+00:00

Most men already side with women on gender debates. Even after a magical gender swap, humanity would remain mostly gynocentric, with a small minority of men resisting

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Rufus_Reddit · 2020-03-17T18:20:39+00:00

... Because if they could somehow place themselves into the other' shoes, the problems would no longer even exist. ...

Sensitivity doesn't change the fact that different people want different things, and it won't change that people are operating in a social and economic context that they have very little control over. If the issues were as simple as gender sensitivity, then we wouldn't see women jealous of each other, would we?

It's also worth pointing out that people's gender identities don't seem to be all that flexible. So, for example, Norah Vincent had a much rougher time being a man than most men seem to.

rus9384 · 2020-03-17T19:47:09+00:00

This view is not even meaningful. I mean, what would be the results of gender change? Would people's personalities change? Would people's memories change?

I am asking, because for now I am picturing women gathering together in bars drinking beers talking how pleasant it was to touch their own boobies and moving back to sports and cars.

Damn, that can make an interesting plot.

LazerArray · 2020-03-17T17:23:15+00:00

In theory this thought experiment would make sense. But in order for it to work the way you describe, both parties would need to live their experiences through logical lenses. We already know that women focus on emotion and men on logic, so I don’t see much of a difference happening. If the sexes switched places, men(women) would just demand that the toilet seat be left up instead of down. That pretty much sums it up for me.

The reason for all of the contention is the fact that men and women simply don’t think the same. Men try to adapt to the environment to suit their needs and women try to change the environment to suit their needs.

DeepCrimsonPill · 2020-03-17T17:28:44+00:00

This is not needed for Red Pilled men because we already know the experiences women go through via logic and research. We just don't care about serving the feminine imperative anymore. It is Blue Pilled women who refuse to acknowledge men's struggles and nature in the 21st century, especially if the trouble stems from women. And perhaps some of them understand, but just don't care about the male imperative (most of it is hateful snark, but radical feminists aren't entirely wrong). Then neither group should care about the other.

Gabo9718 · 2020-03-17T17:09:16+00:00

Oh please women don’t just sleep around because of the risk of getting pregnant, yet they go and spread their leg for men out of their looks leaks and become single mother. I don’t need to switch places with women, unless is a lifetimes switch, because those mistakes are something you drag through time.

Title	If each gender temporarily became the opposite one, they would no longer have problems with one another.
Author	TheWeebestofWeebs
Upvotes	8
Comments	77
Date	March 17, 2020 3:50 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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