Whenever a girl approaches/initiates me first, I get laid. But whenever I approach/initiate, I never get anywhere.

a-large-L · 2020-03-21T04:27:11+00:00

I’m sorry but...sidebar.

If they’re approaching you, they have very high interest and obviously it’s going to be easy as fuck to get laid. If a girl has high interest it’s actually difficult to fuck up enough to not.

Your game is just probably trash, and your confidence is also probably trash when it comes to approaching more attractive women because you’ve got the subconscious thought that she’s “out of your league”.

If all you’ve ever really been with is high interest girls, it’s a rude awakening when you try to go for girls that have low to medium interest and your game and seduction is more required to be on point.

femaledoglover6 · 2020-03-21T04:26:50+00:00

You’re not approaching enough, and not approaching girls who give you choosing signals. If you approach a girl who doesn’t give choosing signals it’s like a 1/50 chance you’ll fuck. A girl who gives choosing signals is like a 1/3 chance youll fuck

lozboss · 2020-03-21T11:11:22+00:00

No shit OP. Smashing high interest girls is easy mode.

Your game is trash. Work on it and you'll be able to pursue.

theUnBannableHulk · 2020-03-21T04:30:25+00:00

The sex you want you ain’t gettin, The sex you getting you don’t want.

Classic noob quandary

AnonymousSportsExec · 2020-03-21T09:25:05+00:00

Women throw themselves at men who are slightly better looking than them. They know if they're easy, a guy will be down. If the guy is too much better looking, she will be intimidated and not be interested. Women make men who are equally or less good looking than them earn it. They either have to have money and/or status to be worth her time.

"Game" and "Frame' is all about being socially dominant. Social dominance is the key to status for men. Or you can have a prestigious career, be famous, an athlete, etc. to gain status.

It seems like you're probably an 8 getting approached by 6-7s. Unless you play a sport in college or are in a top-tier frat, you won't be able to pull 8-10s without "game."

I personally was very fit and an athlete in high school/college which made it easy to get hot women. Once I was done with ball, I had to learn how to talk to the hottest women.

Now of days, I have a prestigious job and money, however I don't like using those things to attract women. I'd rather a woman be attracted to me because of my looks and social skills.

If you want to pull 8-10s, you need to become as physically and socially dominant as possible. Eat healthy and exercise to become more physically dominant. Exercise your brain and invest in your mental health to become more socially dominant.

alphakari · 2020-03-21T04:35:24+00:00

Well yeah. There is no greater IOI than a girl approaching you. Game isn't for high interest girls. It's for low interest ones.

And mid-low tier women develop other skills to net high value men. Namely they do things to make a guy feel like she's easy, although the girl herself probably just thinks of it as her personality being what netted him.

But nah. Funny bitches. Bubbly bitches. Talkative bitches. All those things aren't effective sexual strategies because of their desirability as traits innately. The traits themselves make it easier to game them, and that's what guys are actually getting out of girls with these traits. The lack of a need to do much to get them to spread their legs. They're lower cost per conversation.

Notice it's those traits that a guy'll point out as his reason for being with a low tier bitch, but he'll never fuck a low tier bitch for her money, or her intelligence. Because neither of those things make it easier to game them. Guys care about two things: How easy it is to fuck, and how beautiful a girl is.

mraees93 · 2020-03-21T15:40:16+00:00

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MMASpartan77 · 2020-03-21T04:26:12+00:00

It’s usually a toss up. Usually girls have certain characteristics they like so they go for it - and sometimes you don’t have that thing they really value. However, sometimes a little pursing is good, those girls are usually worth it - but not pursuing to a point you are getting led on. Just go with the flow.

mr_Tobbor · 2020-03-21T15:10:33+00:00

That’s the pussy way. Lower league.

Auspexel · 2020-03-21T10:58:04+00:00

I think that’s because women at the end of the day are the gatekeepers to sexual selection. What you can do is increase your SMV and the way you present yourself, which is what gives you agency in the dating scheme.

throwitdownman · 2020-03-21T22:17:56+00:00

Some of these comments are retarded. Obviously if she’s sending you overt IOIs it become considerably easier. Common sense.

What OP wants to know is how to have a higher conversion rate when HE approaches. That’s a question about technique, about game, which he can find by searching PUA on google.

If you’re trying to pick up a ‘low interest girl’ or a girl with a resting bitch face, ‘just lift bro’ doesn’t work. If she’s disinterested, the impression has been made. The only way to break through, is to apply PUA techniques. I wouldn’t want to advertise but there’s plenty of content (videos, pdfs, books, articles) about this topic.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2020-03-22T01:01:34+00:00

This is not a statement of fact. It is 100% a statement of a self-fulfilling prophesy.

You believed this since before puberty, this isn't some kind of sudden realization. "I can't be successful unless mommie shows me the way to do something."

The issue seems to be that you don't see yourself as being the leader and the aggressor in a relationship. You're fundamentally uncomfortable in that role.

Because of this you sabotage yourself in various ways when trying to take on that role. You unconsciously put women up on a pedestal because you're afraid to step into the terra-incognita of being the sexual leader.

Read "Women: the most responsible teenager in the room."

You need to take women down off that mile-high pedestal you've put them up on.

Red_Pill_Brotherhood · 2020-03-22T02:49:22+00:00

If youre putting in enough numbers and getting not getting any results, you gotta work on your game/SMV.

IlyaRostov · 2020-03-22T21:04:45+00:00

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mr_Tobbor · 2020-03-21T15:08:15+00:00

Here we are. If you fuck its ment to be, not the game. Cold approach doesn’t work, makes you looking like monkey.

Title	Whenever a girl approaches/initiates me first, I get laid. But whenever I approach/initiate, I never get anywhere.
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Date	March 21, 2020 4:21 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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