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Stop giving a fuck about her.

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Summary: Some of you care far too much about women when you don't have your life together and you are not the center of your life. This makes you ask stupid shit and act needy.

Body: I usually write posts that focus on building power and becoming a stronger man, but I’m starting to realize through browsing asktrp that many of you have the same problem.

Far too many of you are asking questions that ooze scarcity and a lack of masculine energy. You’re all asking the same shit.

“BuT Muh pLATes… whAT wIlL HAPPEN TO muH PlaTEs durINg Da kuNg-fLu??”

“MUH lTR is acTing WEIRD… whaT dO?”

“Will gAmE bE tHE sAMe aftER Da cHiNa vIRUs?”

“LtR Is MaKiNg mE SaD… WuT Do?”

Why the fuck do you care so much?

I get it, you care about sex. You came here so you can nut in the eyes of hoes so they can see the next generation, but if you’d actually take the time to read the sidebar you’d see the recurring theme of not giving a fuck about women and only using them as something to be enjoyed as an additive to an already thriving life.

Stop taking these sluts so seriously. Most of you don’t even have the basics, let alone a thriving life, but you’re out here worrying about a bitch with a pussy that even Gordon Ramsay would mistake for roast beef. Unless this woman is the mother of your child, you're wasting your precious mental energy.

The next time you find yourself asking questions Beta Billy would ask or hamstering like a bitch over a woman, you need to stop and ask yourself…

“Why do I care?"

If you have an IQ above my shoe size and an ounce of introspection you’ll promptly realize that there’s something wrong with you. You’re out of your masculine frame. Something is off-balance in your life and you need to fix it. Chances are, you’re off your purpose and that’s causing you to give too much of a fuck. The only things that are constantly on my mind are the books I'm writing, the gym, and my tribe. Keep in mind; alpha is a mindset. You, what you want to do, and what you want to accomplish should be the only things on your mind. Don't give your mind and mental space away to people who are not truly worth it.

This is sidebar shit. Women crave men who don’t care about them because it conveys to them that he’s better than her. If you care too damn much you'll act like you’re beneath her. She will know she has you whipped. I don't care how good you think your acting skills are but it's not good enough to avoid women's bullshit detector in the long-run. Stop acting beneath the sex that has nothing to offer but tingly feelings and a fresh womb. Be a man of value and act like one for Christ's sake.

She’s not fucking you the way you want?

I hope she has a jacket up her ass because she’s gonna be freezing when you pick her up and leave her outside your doorstep ass naked with your load on her face.

Did she cancel on you?

All good. I’m sure you had shit to do anyway. Finish that book you've been putting off.

Is your plate acting funny?

Sucks to be her. She’s missing out on an orgasm comparable to a sinner receiving the spirit of Jesus Christ.

This is the type of prize mentality you need to have, but you can only have it if you're truly the prize, and you can only be the prize when you stop giving a shit about these cumrags and become a man worth his salt.

Stop giving so much of a fuck about her and realize that when you care too much there’s something wrong with you. You're doing something wrong and you need to hold yourself accountable. Don’t forget what good ol’ Rollo said…

“In any relationship, the person with the most power is the one who needs the other the least.”

Lessons learned

  • If you're on your purpose you won't have time to ask bitch ass questions and worry about petty shit.
  • If you're so worried about what a woman is doing, you're missing something in your life and have your priorities fucked up.
  • Before you can act like a prize, you have to actually be a prize. This can only be done when you have a life worth living and a legacy worth leaving.
  • This is your life. Put yourself in the center.

Post Information
Title Stop giving a fuck about her.
Author TRP_Scepter
Upvotes 925
Comments 74
Date 11 May 2020 05:00 PM UTC (5 months ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/663523
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/ghria1/stop_giving_a_fuck_about_her/
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[–]MindlessCalendar189 points190 points  (29 children) | Copy

The problem is most guys over on askTRP haven't actually read the sidebar (or Handbook/Rational Male). It's becoming more and more like the relationship advice subreddit every day.

[–]RedRiver041569 points70 points  (15 children) | Copy

Exactly. To actually read and understand the sidebar takes days. You have to read some, ponder and think read some more etc. It needs to be studied and digested. Too many of these fucktards skim it in 30 minutes and complain that it doesnt work.

[–]g0dfather9334 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. This takes weeks to internalise and months to practice in earnest. The whole point of TRP is that there's no instant gratification. You gotta work on yourself for it, including understanding TRP.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill25 points26 points  (5 children) | Copy

It takes a year or two to internalize and correct depending on how blue pilled you are. And I'd say it could take 2 more before your evolution into the man you were meant to become is well and truly established. Don't wait years to make a move though, you are meant to start right now.

[–]NormalAndy5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s not a quick fix, it’s a process, a mindset.

It take various lengths of time to get to realizing “oh shit/ oh yeah!”- then you get down the gym for a few years and change your attitude.

Only then can you appreciate the years of hard work to get there and the decades of hard work to follow. Without seeing the value of how painful the process can be, You can’t enjoy the battle and will quit.

I speak as someone who is still battling and often losing and learning the hard way- but I enjoy it now rather than complaining that life is unfair. I’m doing what I can ( looking good too) and success is in the post on the back of my small victories.

In the end it’s about not giving up on yourself- especially when you’re being seduced into it. That was always my problem, not staying the course cause I was chasing a chick instead.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You will often end up falling again and again into your old mistakes in different situations, often when confronted by stuff that you cannot prepare for. You have to fix problems step by step. It's humbling stuff to realize the hard way that a lifetime of bad habit isn't going to yield overnight. We're all just further up or down the road.

Loss of frame is easily the biggest one. Mastery of the new mindset will need self evaluation, time and real experience. That is ok, as long as you grow from it.

[–]NormalAndy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very humbling indeed- every morning I say 'thanks' that I simply made it through the night, get my ass up and start the show again.

That's about it though- as the saying goes, "it's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am."

[–]theunconquored2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly. Back when I was a fat ass, I remember someone telling me..."a year from now, you'll wish you started sticking to it today."

There isn't a timeline or a "done" point with this shit. It's constant growth and evolution into better and better versions of yourself, and the resultant benefits and rewards that come with the way that the world, and women, react to that better you.

Start becoming better today. Now. And don't ever stop.

[–]12stepp2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's one of the worst lies we tell ourselves...

"ONE DAY, somehow, some way, I will reach the TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN and life will be grand!"

But it's not true. Life is a wave, undulating peaks and vallyes - highs and lows. This ever-present moment is all we really have.

I agree with you entirely; it never ends. Only exception being when we go in the ground. :P Embrace that shit!

[–]NPLIronBanker1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

To read and understand is already a long process, to internalize and live life accordingly takes years. Like progress in any endeavor you're going to have setbacks, regressions, and then periods of understanding and forward movement. So it goes.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Month to years to internalize it

[–]Doc_aj7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

What's the sidebar (new member)

[–]alien_race_42012 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Welcome. It's the content and archives post located on the side of your browser window, or on mobile at the top of the subreddit the "i" button.

[–]noobish_senpai4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're on Mobile, you'll find it under the button "About" on top of the page.

[–]Antvante04015 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The sidebar is the community's info. To find it go to the red pill's page, and click on the options button in the top right corner.

[–]RPOpenUp7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

So true. Asktrp actually has a negative influence on internalizing TRP. There's so much beta questions and there definitely is a lot of good advice coming but also hell of a lot non TRP beta advice. It's way less harsh then the TRP sub

[–]1319Skew10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

I've been red pilled since last week. What dread do I use when my LTR of 3 weeks goes to her friend's place for a sleep over? She knows that I have tinder and that I follow all her friends on instagram but refuses to respond right away when I text? Do I keep going to the gym? I can squat half my weight and the gym girls now notice me. Yesterday one looked in my direction and smiled but I didn't want to have another plate so I just went home.

[–]Fakeone12097 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I bench 5x my weight,.. Am I alpha yet

[–]donnymufc2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This may sound dumb but how the fuck do you find the side bar on the mobile app?

[–]listeriosis695 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Under the subs 'About' tab

[–]when_its_too_late2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. It took me at least a good 6 months to read EVERYTHING there and understand it.

[–]Powerful_Birthday0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Hii Brother. Could you please tell me what is that handbook and Rational male and sidebar. I'm relatively new to this Reddit site

[–]MindlessCalendar2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sidebar: if you are on a pc you will see it immediately. It's the posts on the right side of the screen on TRP and askTRP subs, containing top posts with RP knowledge. If you are on your phone, press the about section on the top to access the sidebar. You can also google 'red pill sidebar pdf download'.

Handbook: google 'Red Pill Handbook 2nd edition PDF'. It's the 'manual' on the red pill.

Rational Male: book written by Rollo Tomassi. He is one of the biggest and famous RP guys out there. Again, google 'rational male pdf download' and you can get it easily. You can also look him up on Youtube.

These 3 (or technically 4) things are considered the basics of the red pill. You can not be a RP aware guy if you haven't read at least 2 of these. The problem is most guys on askTRP don't actually read these things and ask the dumbest blue pill questions because of it. Partly because people use their phone more nowadays and therefore don't see them as easily, partly because guys are fucking lazy.

This is also why the answer 'read the sidebar' on askTRP posts is common. They don't read the sidebar.

[–]Powerful_Birthday0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh yeah it gave me a clarity. I will do accordingly brother. Never knew all these. All i knew was Return of kings site. I gave me some beautiful thoughts on RP. Since suddenly many of those superb articles are being removed. I was searching for better sources. These kind of articles being quarantined for no reason. Even return of kings is removing lot of enlightening articles. This is too bad na bro?? Why should ppl prevent such things and stop its access to us? Good things shouldnt be propagated Thats what is wanted 😑

[–]BryanAlex0030 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Rational Male

I see there are 3 different books, RM, RM: Preventive Medicine, and RM: Positive Masculinity. Should I read all three? If so in what order? (new member, want to get my life straight and be an exemplar male for my younger brother)

[–]WilsonL70 points71 points  (3 children) | Copy

The ironic thing about giving a fuck about girls is that while you're giving a fuck about them you're in a horrible frame that would make them not like you in the first place

[–]Wabbajak27 points28 points  (2 children) | Copy

The less fucks you give, the more fucks you get.

[–]ImplodedVeggies187 points188 points  (3 children) | Copy

“You came here so you can nut in the eyes of hoes so they can see the next generation”

[–]_DonDraper_29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wrote this shit down, not gonna lie. Gonna add this mf in my vocabulary.

[–]Zech4riah46 points47 points  (1 child) | Copy

I get it, you care about sex.

You didn't actually. Sex is only half of the truth. It's the intimacy and attention/validation of woman in romantic sense which men crave too. If it was only about sex, all the guys who can afford using hookers, would use them mainly.

I don't care how good you think your acting skills are but it's not good enough to avoid women's bullshit detector in the long-run.

Extremely important pointworth repeating. That's why we here at TRP sub encourage men to improve in every possible way - not just learn tricks from PUA handbook. Learning gimmicky game gets you ONSs, but it's not enough on the long run when spinning plates or in LTR with a hot girl.

[–]Lefanteriorascencion24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good post. Covers one of the most important maxims of being a man of value. Be selfish: prioritize yourself

[–]look_up_there15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

See, this is why I am in this sub. I needed this today.

[–]Yoshimitsu-MKII31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

I needed to read this today.

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[–]VisiblePlan25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are so many thigns more fun than talking to women. You could be making soap in your bathtub, building a racecar that you careen off of the interstate, or writing poems about flatulence. All are pursuits more upright and fulfilling than a woman's conversation.

[–]jamesbond05127 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm convince that the majority of men are going to continue living like emotional creatures.

For those of you who have stumbled upon this forum with raw information (majority backed by science), I encourage to you to multiply your transformation and push forward with no looking back.

Don't be an asshole but also don't hold back if you feel like you need to, in order to surpass others.

Keep moving forward. Keep learning. "Don't teach others"

[–]Longgbottom15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Appreciate the writing style and imagination.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

My friend gives a fuck about a single mother who lives halfway across the country because she talks to him on the phone. Calls her his girl and everything. Sad shit.

[–]moisthours8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

god bless you my guy, this post slapped me in the face. I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

[–]NoodlesTheClown7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for this post. TRP used to be about becoming a man of actual worth who respects himself. It has devolved into a cesspool of insecure man-boys just chasing pussy. It's why I rarely show up here anymore.

[–]StereoFood7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

All day my ldr and Ltr (same thing) was extremely loving and telling me how much she loved me. Then we face chat and suddenly she’s blasé. She was on medication so that makes sense. Top it off with “my neighbor helped me with blank” and I just start to lose it. I felt insecure and worried she’s doing something with the guy. Ultimately I will never know the truth but I mostly think she’s just testing me. I’m sick of the tests. It’s not a lot but why do it all?. We’ve been together for about a year and it’s like wtf? You love me one moment and then call me to shit test me? I don’t even get to fuck her. Am I supposed to act like it doesn’t bother me? I’m offended she tested me. I supposed to just “play it cool” be I’m on my purpose and I am but I am sick of the bullshit tests. She doesn’t know what she has it she randomly feels the need to do this. I know she was overly loving so maybe she had to make up for it but JFC. Also, I know trp is about fucking and leaving them but some people want real connection and relationships which is not impossible. Some people actually get that and most of the time. I do but 10-20% of the time she suddenly becomes a testing, teasing, vague asshole and that shit hurts. I wouldn’t give a fuck if we didn’t already have something but we do. Am I supposed to throw it all away? Threaten her with leaving her? Accept the shit test and try to pass or can I just explain it to her what she’s doing and that I’m offended? What do you guys think?

[–]555WeWolf16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women are the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of commitment.

Read this about a hundred times because it holds the answer to everything you are struggling at this moment with your LTR. About a month ago i ended an LTR because after i had withdrawn my whole attention to see if she would actually reach out a lot of things became clear and i saw that she for some reason simply wasn't interested. Worse part is that her lack of interest came all of a sudden. No big fights, no big drama just simply meh, and we also like you mentioned "had something". If i hadn't found TRP i completely see myself crying all day "WhY dOeSn'T sHe LoVe Me". After lurking here and following Rollo's work i can only say that Hypergamy's a bitch, it can bite you when you least expect it. But be grateful you are here because the shit you can learn from he sidebar and other resources are all valuable tools you can use to deal with not just women but with life as well (i wont get in to the discussion whether or not you should try to accomplish blue pill goals with red pill knowledge).

[–]IHaveYourBaguette12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Personally, I think patience is important for something like this. The issue with long distance is that if you care, women can dread you as much as you dread them. And in a real relationship like that, they hold more power than you do, because you’ve made it clear you want them around. Honestly? There is no easy answer. You may have to leave her, or at least be willing to do so. If she thinks you will never leave her no matter what she does, she will do whatever she wants, and that’s a fact. That shows that you think she is the only one for you, and that is a sure fire way to lose her forever.

I really think you should wait it out and play it cool, but if it gets too unbearable, straight up ask her if she still wants to be with you. It’s the last thing she would expect. She will likely be caught off guard by it. And who knows? Maybe she doesn’t. Shit happens. But at least you will have a chance to move on and be with someone who wants to be with you. I can speak from firsthand experience, it is better to lose someone who doesn’t love you than to be in a relationship with someone who doesn’t love you. Asking her directly will force her to come up with an answer, and if that answer isn’t “fuck yes, baby, you’re the only one for me”, consider ending it yourself because that shit goes downhill fast.

Another huge thing to remember is you are not in love with her, you are in love with the idea of her. You are in love with the comfort of having her there for you consistently. You are in love with the way she makes you feel. You might be seeing it wrong, only seeing a surface level visualization of this impossible female that is good enough for you to ditch the possibility of all other women. Here’s the secret: other women CAN give you what this one has. They can probably do it better. They can even make you forget this girl you are so wrapped up in even existed in the first place. Sure it takes more effort to get to a level of trust where you would be comfortable with that, but it can and might happen. That’s okay. It’s meant to be hard.

All of this assumes you are lifting and barely not busy enough to have just enough time to post a long winded essay on here. If you’re not jacked as fuck, start lifting today, your problems will disappear (yes, calisthenics count in this crisis.) If you’re not wrapped up in some sort of pursuit that makes your life better, literally go online to Udemy right now and sign up for a course you think you would like. You need to care about something else more than her. Suddenly, she won’t be shit testing you, or at the very least you’ll be able to pass the shit tests with zero effort because you need to get back to the stuff you were doing. Prove to her she doesn’t know all your tricks. Or better yet, prove it to yourself.

[–]Reps4Reece21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah man. NEVER make an ultimatum or threat. If you’re going to end it, tell her and move on and stick to it. Don’t even mention that to her. Play it off nonchalant. Act like you don’t even remember her saying it. Like you said, you’ll never know. So, either be good with not knowing and wasting your time / energy on LDR or find a girl who is equally as good (if not better) locally that you can bang.

Tell LDR girl you can’t do the distance and going to see other women. But whenever she gets back around your area you will consider seeing her again. It shows abundance mentality and that you DGAF.

Or you can keep wasting your emotional energy and obsessing over what this girl does, and have her test you all the time to make your hamster wheel go 1000 RPM. Your choice.

[–]PainKiller_Relapsed10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought of your solution from just reading the first sentence. Ldrs is of no benefit to a man, don’t do them.

[–]Dukkas11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Personally I don’t like walking on eggshells, and this sounds like that’s what you’re doing. Might be a good time to take a break and recalibrate yourself.

What really irritates me is she’s got you worrying about the guy down the hall. That’s the kind of stress that wears a guy down to a husk of himself. My two cents? Break up and work on yourself, you’re the captain of this ship not her. If she’s making your cruise difficult, drop her off somewhere and full steam forward into the unknown.

Good luck

[–]big_ass_package1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ldr is no R.... AT ALL..if she isn't coming over and fucking you then why does it matter? You're way too invested in nothing. Do you think she cares as much as you do? NO! she's not your fucking mom and don't try and make her so.

[–]Wave944 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Straight to the put and funny. Got my upvote

[–]linkofinsanity192 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think questions about what to do with women are fine provided it's for your improvement of handling and managing them. If it comes from a place of fear of loss of your beloved plates, then the answer should always be to replace her. Focus on getting better with women is what the goal of a question should be if it is in regards to women.

[–]Con49AK2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Best shit I've ever read on this website. Well fucking said.

[–]Sc3m0r3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks, I needed to read this today.

[–]medium_dip1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Waiting sucks it's hard to accomplish anything without skills and connections if you work a 400$/month that's why these problems happen your so lucky

[–]majcisen0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Where do you work for 400/month?

[–]IlfordDelta32000 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Eastern Europe, MENA, SEA, some parts of South America.

[–]majcisen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

was born and worked in eastern europe and cant agree.

[–]_Icarus_Reborn_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

worrying about a bitch with a pussy that even Gordon Ramsay would mistake for roast beef.

Post is was worth it, even just for this line.

Started my day off with a chuckle. Thanks.

[–]F0999Y1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have just broken up with my First LTR and that's The shit I really needed to hear

[–]_TheRP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is all pretty accurate.

Bottom line - women want men that both are higher value than them and act accordingly. You can't do the second without being the first, and being the first does nothing for you if you don't internalize it.

I spend all of my time making money. My business is basically all I do - if I'm not working I'm thinking about working. I pay little to no attention to women, outside of sending memes back and forth or telling them the fucked up shit I'm going to do to them I barely even engage with them. I have so many plates I can't fuck them all in a week.

Biggie had it figured out - fuck bitches, get money.

[–]Andorli1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

People who come to TRP are mostly bitter and broken in one way or the other.

Most of those people want a quick fix for their issues and most of them pursue vain goals.

This is what causes so much issues and problems, its bunch of betas at their core who are looking for ways to get laid and take everything they read at face value without taking time to internalize it and actually understand what an enormous amount of thought process was put into the material, what is the philosophy behind it.

As soon as they start getting some resemblance of success they switch back to their old ways or just keep running same game without ever truly growing or going deeper and getting more introspective with themselves.

You can't follow TRP if you are not congruent. Being congruent with yourself and truly fixing what needs to be fixed is the only way for permanent and meaningful change. But not everyone has will power or intelligence to do so.

[–]hwkmrk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The lifestyle part is completely true. I was obsessed with women because I had a shitty lifestyle. If you are obsessed with women, it's that your life isn't on point at all

[–]docent34341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Treat her like a queen and you WILL be left on a seen.

[–]travhall193 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

thanks for the tough love G

[–]betatest20201 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

TRP isn’t about being an uncaring asshole. Read the Rational Male. It’s about being strong and understanding the sexual dynamic to use it for your benefit. You’re going to give me a shit ton of downvotes for this, but it’s the truth. Guys posting on here, caring about women, is not out of the realm of TRP. Letting women control them is.

[–]when_its_too_late0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

if you’d actually take the time to read the sidebar

I pretty much put this in ever ASK TRP comment section. Did reading become harder?

You came here so you can nut in the eyes of hoes so they can see the next generation

Fantastic visuals, love it.

Most of the ask trp kids are:

  • Reading books because "trp said so" not because they want to.
  • Reading sidebar because "trp said so" not because the need the help.
  • Cold approaching because "trp said so" not because they stopped giving a fuck about what people think and just go out and wing it for a good time.
  • Do XYZ because "trp said so" not because they understood that they NEED XYZ to not be a total fucking loser.

[–]MasculineRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is top tier shit right here, and a reminder of why I love this sub. Cheers mate.

[–]yunglad10x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

man I needed to read this after how I've been acting up lately for the past few days. Cheers!

[–]suckisuckilongtime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m glad to find gems like this it’s true RP knowledge

[–]SpecialK471500 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What a sad, incel fuck you must be.

[–]Batman_MGTOW0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The only thing you failed to mention that could cause everything else to fail is to not think with your dick. A lot of men will read up on all this great advice on how to be more alpha around women but then they will get thirsty and porn will make them start to worship women, the solution that I found is to do Nofap and spend your sexual energy on hobbies that drain your energy instead, so that when you come back home, you will be so tired physically that you won't need to jerk off to porn. As for the times where you really have strong urges and it becomes more of a physical need instead of a mental thing, then you can jerk off but without porn just to get back your mental clarity. I remember that the times where I felt the most beta were the times where I was watching a lot of porn and jerking off multiple times per day. What I learned is that just because you are able to get an erection doesn't mean that you should waste that on porn, because if you do that, then, when you finally do get to have sex with a woman, because you will lack the necessary sexual energy, you won't be able to have sex.
However, nofap doesn't work for men who don't do an intense sport frequently because they will feel so energized that their sexual energy will be out of control.

The mindset that you are talking about is great but without the Nofap aspect to it, I believe that most men will fail because they won't be motivated enough to succeed with game because they will know that they can get a release without any effort or risk. Roosh himself said that not masturbating actually pushed him to succeed with women by putting more effort because he depended on them to get a release and that forced him to do his approaches and get the results that he wanted.

[–]ajs_rb260 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This is all good and well if you actually have your purpose down. If she’s the only fun thing that provides affection and validation it’s obviously indicative of a bigger problem. When your job, gym, and purpose have been sidelined what do you do then? This is not a rhetorical question. I live in a small nyc apartment with my family. No longer have my main job, no gym or mma (tired of hearing about your home workouts; they will never deliver the same results), no close friends to hangout with. I don’t want a pity party I want solutions. No I don’t sit around and jerk off and play videos games, I’m learning to code and still have a part time 2nd job, so I have income that I’m mainly saving. Even so, I still think about my fab everyday, I wonder if she’s seeing someone else, if she’s getting bored with me, and if she still desires me. I really want to fix my shit and get on with my life but this virus has everything on hold. I don’t know how to instantly improve my life , income, and social status.

[–]look_up_there5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

These are tough times indeed. But strong men are forged in tough times. Keep doing what your doing.

And yes, do some home workouts, it's better than nothing. It will, at the bare minimum, clear your head for a couple of hours.

[–]mr_Tobbor-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man we are all betas here. How many of us would become an alpha. Some of us may be. Rest don't. I think the proportion of successors would be about 10%. So you have to understand that some people just can't to be alpha. So we are looking for some specific advice for us. This is the reason we are here. If what hou have to say is just be alphas we will search another more suitable advice. Thank you for reading this post.

[–]hollywood22-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine being this big of a nerdy ass incel lol



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