This is why men must always pay for dates.

NoThisIs-Patrick · 2019-12-13T17:46:18+00:00

Men don't understand that it is just generally more expensive to live as a woman. Women pay more for everything (inb4: BUT MUH TAXES bro shut the fuck up I don't get a tax benefit because I'm not a single mom).

Also: In 1994, the State of California studied the issue of gender-based pricing of services and estimated that women effectively paid an annual “gender tax” of approximately $1,351 for the same services as men, the DCA noted.

Source: Being a woman costs more than being a man

And:

Also, women don't really have a choice but to tow the line if they want to succeed in the world.

Deciding not to wear makeup to work is a big deal
Makeup at Work: Negotiating Appearance Rules in the Workplace - this is an actual academic study, for bros who wanna try to clap back

This isn't even including feminine hygiene products for that blasted time of the month, or birth control options (which I personally pay $20 per month for)

edit: noticed one of our homies in here downvoting everyone. facts hurt their fee-fees

luna_kuma · 2019-12-13T16:32:13+00:00

Note: This post is meant to educate and inform men and not to mock and ridicule.

PART 1

Does the girl in the photo look nice and put together? Someone you would want to know and spend time with?

This girl is me.

Of course, not my actual photo since I have no desire to be doxxed by incels. But for all intended purposes we are the same - same innocent face, same silver hair, same polished style, and same overall vibe.

And neither of us "dropped down from heaven" looking like this.

Men are generally ignorant of what it cost for women to exist in the dating game (and well after marriage). Partially due to simply not giving a fuck and partially due to women not willing to admit the real cost because of the pressure placed on us to be "naturally" beautiful. Well, even priceless natural gemstone are all just plain rocks until they have been polished. I will now go in depth as to just how much time, effort, and money ($CAD) it takes to "polish up". The prices may shock you but please be assured that there is nothing above standard Sephora prices.

(Using this soapbox I would like to dissuade everyone from purchasing diamonds. They are blood soaked common rocks whose value are artificially inflated due to the De Beers Company's market manipulation - hence the shit resell value. Ruby, emerald, and sapphire (The Big Three) are much better alternatives.)

Skincare Cost - Objective: To achieve the glass skin - Cost not included: all the products that did not work.

Shout out to r/skincareaddiction and r/asianbeauty for skincare advices that give results.

Step 1. DHC Oil Cleanser - oil cleansers are better than traditional makeup removers. $30/bottle, $60/year

Step 2. Bioderma Micellar Water - removes remaining residue, especially around eyes using q-tip. $20/year

Step 3. Glossier Milky Jelly Cleanser - low pH balancing gentle cleanser eliminate need for traditional toner that is drying for skin. $30/bottle, $60/year

Step 4. Drunk Elephant TLC & Cure Natural Aqua Gel - better than the traditional physical exfoliants that do not exfoliate evenly. I also find clay masks too drying. $130/year & 40/year

Step 5. Skinceuticals Vitamin C - best vitamin c on the market, stimulate collagen growth and even out skintone. $200/30 ml bottle, $800/year

Step 6. Skinceutical Retinol 0.5 - retinol is the most time tested anti-aging ingredient. $90/tube, $180/year.

Step 7. SK-ii FTE - first treatment essence help other products after it to absorb, the Pitera in SK-ii help brighten skin. $270/160 ml bottle/year

Step 8. Hada Labo Gokujyun premium hyaluronic solution - time tested serum from Japan, excellent price value. $20/160ml bottle/year

Step 9. Elizabeth Arden Ceramide Capsules - ceramide facial oil is good. $140/90 capsules, $280/year

Step 10. Various brands sheet masks - very hydrating, helps previous products to absorb, average $2 - $5 per sheet (non reusable) so $3 every other night cones to $550/year.

Step 11. Belif Aqua Bomb, Dr. Jart ceramide cream, & First Aide Ultra Repair Cream - rotating moisturizer depending on state of skin. $55, $70, & $20 per year.

Step 12. Laniege sleeping mask - seal everything in. $37/60ml jar, $110/year

Step 13. Laniege lip sleeping mask - lip care. $30/jar/year

TOTAL SKIN COST: $2695 per year

Does this seem excessive to you? Then ask yourselves this: would you rather spend $7 every night to wake up with beautiful skin or have the people you may be sexually interested in laugh about your "pizza face" behind your back?

Hair Care Cost - Objective: obtain stylish hair while maintaining the silky texture and shine - Cost not included: hair styling tools, failed products, and hundreds of hours spend in salons

Hair cuts - twice a year $120/year

Colour processing - long silver hair is the most expensive hair style. My asian hair requires 5 bleaching sessions and 5 toning sessions to reach the light silver colour while maintaining the integrity of the hair structure. And my hair grow fast. After tax and tips this comes to $200 per process for 10 process, for a grand total of $2000/year

Milkshake purple shampoo - silver hair needs to be maintained with specialized purple shampoo and conditioners to prevent brassiness. $50/L, $100/year

Milkshake purple conditioner. $50/L, 150/year

Olaplex No. 3 - for repairing bleached hair. $40/30 ml, $120/year.

Kerastase hair masques - more maintence. $80/jar, 160/year

Virgin Coconut oil treatment - a lot of hair oils are tinted which is bad for silver hair, organic cooking coconut oil is best. $15/year

TOTAL HAIR COST: $2665 per year

Believe it or not, my hair is considered low maintenance, I imagine this not the case for a lot of women with more stubborn hair.

Makeup Cost - Objective: look red carpet ready - Cost not included: brushes and tool, failed products, years of learning the craft. With good hair and good skin, makeup is really just a bonus, but all bonuses are appreciated. I'm just listing what I use to achieve the look above. It will take forever to list out my entire collection which is probably 10x what I will be covering.

Step 1. Benefit Primer - $50

Step 2. Giorgio Armani Luminous Foundation - $90

Step 3. Nars Radiant Concealor - $40

Step 4. Laura Mercier Setting Powder - $50

Step 5. Becca Shimmering Highlighter in Opal - $55

Step 6. Nars Blush in Orgasm - $45

Step 7. Etude House eyebrow pencil in grey - $5

Step 8. Anastasia Beverly Hills Modern Renaissance Eye Shadow Palette - $60

Step 9. Kat von D Tattoo Liner - $30

Step 10. Lancome Mascara - $40

Step 11. Yves Saint Laurent Lipstick in No. 9 Rose Stiletto - $55

Step 12. MAC setting spray - $30

TOTAL MAKE-UP COST for this ONE look in the photo: $550

Other cost

Lasik Eye surgery to ditch the glasses: $3000

Laser hair removal: $2000

Manipedi UV gel nails with French tip with occasional nail art: average $100/visit, $1200/year

I am lucky to have nice eyebrows that I style myself into the classic Korean straight brow look. But for girls that are less fortunate and require microblading, tinting, etc. this cost can easily run up to another grand a year.

The total summary of the cost of beauty is $5,000 of initial laser setup cost and $7,110 per year in expenses. This is cold, hard cash and do not even include the value of my time spend. If I go on a date every week, he can be spending $130 on me per date and I will still NOT be breaking-even! Men can pay-as-they-go while women have to bear their entire dating cost by simply existing. And you STILL want to complain about a $30 entree???

I am sure by now there are banned users wanting to shout out "You don't have to spend all this money and time, you CHOOSE to do it!"

Yup, you are right. I am the one who choose to do it. I am the one who choose to set high standards for myself. And I am the one who choose to date men who are mature enough to pick up their share of the dating burden.

I choose not to date LVM from r/choosingbeggars.

In conclusion, REASON #1 that men should always pay for dates: It is financially unfair to women to pay for dates ON TOP of paying for the cost to exist in the dating world.

Edit: formating

venomoth91 · 2019-12-13T23:42:17+00:00

I’m white, but I bleach my naturally medium brown hair light blonde, so I can relate. My hair’s not silver though, so I just use a purple hair mask once a month to tone it at home.

In a typical day, I just brush my hair and go and I only straighten it for special occasions, which saves me a lot of time and keeps my hair healthier. I bought an Amika flat iron for like $200 around six years ago, and I still works great because I rarely use it. That gives me a good balance.

My hair’s naturally wavy and my fashion style’s a mix of punk rock and hippie beach girl, so it works well.

Scotsburd · 2019-12-13T16:59:54+00:00

Or clothes and footwear and bags and jewellery...

Muffcakelord · 2019-12-13T16:56:54+00:00

Thank you for this, it really opens my eyes about how much i probably spend on my looks even though i'm only really keeping acne at bay and not even using make-up. Most women probably have no idea how much they spend on this

spotsandstripes9 · 2019-12-14T02:05:16+00:00

Yuup...I've spent around $2500 on clothes and new makeup in the past two months, to upgrade my look to be a bit more feminine.

Liz_Lemondrop · 2019-12-13T17:13:33+00:00

I fucking love this.

ireadlotsoffic · 2019-12-16T16:17:58+00:00

Hi. Pizza face here. I'm 26 and finallly starting to take care of my skin and it feels like a hopeless cause. Do you think your argument still holds for women spending large ammounts of money on such products but not having the same results?

Toomanyprollems · 2019-12-24T02:14:58+00:00

i will try some of these

Title	This is why men must always pay for dates.
Author	luna_kuma
Upvotes	56
Comments	37
Date	December 13, 2019 4:32 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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