What's the biggest red pill you've personally experienced?

GroundbreakingAd7585 · 2021-01-10T23:33:25+00:00

When I discovered my ex cheated I dropped my kids off at my parents and explained what was happening... went home to work it out. In the morning we both went to get the kids. My Mom walked right past me and hugged my ex, saying, "I'm so sorry you're having to go through this."

hmspain · 2021-01-10T23:19:59+00:00

I was around 10, and my mother dropped the "Not all women are like that!". I quickly realized she was exactly like that.

American__Jedi · 2021-01-10T23:30:17+00:00

No one big eureka moment for me. Wasted a lifetime. Being "nice" is normal for me. I'm nice to everyone, but women really do hate that. It's their low self esteem. They feel they don't deserve it so they destroy relationships where they're treated well. A lifetime for me to realize that. What a waste.

mgtoown · 2021-01-11T00:05:57+00:00

7 years with the bitch. I was head over heels in love. I proposed to her abroad. The second we got home she refused to wear the ring stating she wasn't allowed to wear it in work....I foolishly believed her. Turns out she was banging another guy behind my back. That was a red pill the size of an asteroid.

What kind of low life vermin sticks with you for that many years, says yes to marry you, then jumps into bed with another guy?!

I'm single now. I live alone. Can't say I've found happiness but I accept the red pill reality

1500minus12 · 2021-01-10T23:53:29+00:00

Dated a fatty when I was fit.

Helped her to lose weight.

She thought her SMV increased (but now also five years older) because of increased male attention.

Left me. Took our (my) pets.

Got with a new guy so quick was probably cheating but no stds for me which is a bonus after I checked.

Was talking about where to live and what to name our kids months beforehand.

Dont know what I was thinking. Now I am here and voluntarily celibate.

madriverdog · 2021-01-11T02:33:07+00:00

Backpacking in wilderness for three days. Last morning at 8000 Ft camp, GF mis-steps while going behind a bush to whiz, in camp shoes, cracks a non-splintable bone in her foot. We are 13 miles beyond several rocky ridges and far from the nearest help/trailhead (pre-cellphones). I make a simple crutch for her, carry her pack and my pack to within 1/2 mile of the trailhead (at 4000 ft). On the rougher sections of the trail I had to carry each pack separately (so walked down, walk back up to second pack, down again) all the way keeping her calm and hydrated. Last mile or so is a flat dirt road. Two day-hiker guys see us and they carry her the last 1/2 mile. We get to the car, we leave the mountains.

Next day she gets an x-ray, has to wear a small foot cast, nothing else to do but wait to heal. Over the next two weeks, she will not stop gushing about how those two guys rescued her. Arranged to meet them for a "thank-you" dinner. I never got even a thank-you from her.

She was puzzled as to why I broke up with her a month later.

ActOutside4853 · 2021-01-10T23:29:06+00:00

About 60 years of observing them, and realizing they were getting progressively and consistently worse over time.

APbeg · 2021-01-10T23:30:25+00:00

Women will never be punished. My sister would do everything to piss me off, manipulate me into doing her chores or calling the police, blistered my skin, dig her nails into my arm till I bleed, hit my back with a spatula, and I was never allowed to defend myself because I am a taller stronger boy.

CyberSmith34 · 2021-01-11T00:11:45+00:00

My mum trying to convince me to marry said: "When I married your dad I also thought, if I didn't like it, I would just divorce him." It was in the 80s in a Soviet republic, where divorce was very uncommon and frowned upon. Later answering why she married him, she started to mention, how he was athletic, had a good job and already had a flat(big deal back then), so basically utterly opportunistic reasons. And all in all she is a good woman especially compared to the current generation. Just showed me the name of the game at the beginning of my Red Pill journey.

Highflyer147 · 2021-01-11T00:18:32+00:00

Hypergamy, over and over again. I’m done.

Aussie_Chart_Trader · 2021-01-11T00:40:45+00:00

Well, basically all the women i have known where the same.

The one that give me a close up view was my mother.

My father really abused her, threw her off the stairs, abused the children, at some point I even saw mugs being thrown across the room, etc whilest she cried to everyone that she was being abused and shit and in the end HE left HER. She was and is still angry at him for what he did to her.

But My gut feeling sensed something off with this scenario.
Then after the years she kept getting together with guys that abused her and she always cried to me about it.

When she was alone, she cried about it.

Never have I known she actually dated a nice man.

She is dating one now though and you know what is hilarious. She is the one screaming and fighting with him while he is super docile.

The jig is up... now I realize that she was the one always instigating the fights.

Then the second realization hit, my mother isn't angry at the fact that my father abused her. No, she is angry at him because he LEFT her.

Crazy thing is, she cheated on him so many times but the moment he cheated on her, all hell broke lose... logic!

It now all fell into place, what was making my gut feeling so off. Every interaction that I had with women fell into place. I have mostly only known women through my entire life. My best friend, my regular female friends, my sister, my exes, my aunt, colleagues, etc. it all makes perfect sense now.

I can still enjoy a nice friendship but I will never ever touch a woman again. I'm out!

anon517 · 2021-01-11T01:09:52+00:00

My sisters, who I thought were good, talked about how to meet guys with each other. They said the best way is to just go to the most expensive dating sites, to avoid guys who are too cheap to pay for it. And hang out where stuff (drinks) is the most expensive and live in areas where guys are rich.

I've never heard so much gold digging spew out of anyone's mouth before. High-quality to them are guys who have the most resources to leech from, because they didn't want to date no scrubs sitting in the side of his best friend's car trying to holla at them.

SammySilver09 · 2021-01-11T02:28:16+00:00

Dated My last girlfriend for 3 years, then she all of a sudden starts trying to start arguments and saying that she really did want a baby and marriage and all that, even though she told me she didn't (because I told her I didn't want that in the beginning).

I was 28 so I wasn't 100% against it and probably would have done all of it if she just waited another year. But one day I checked her birth control pills and saw that she hadn't been taking them. I didn't tell her, but I dumped her after she had her period a few weeks later. (And no I never slept with her after that)

3 weeks later I was on Facebook and saw her picture was with a guy. I looked at his page and saw that she was engaged to him, had been living with him for like 6 months, and had pictures of them hanging out that were dated over a year before.

I realized then that she had been legit dating both of us, for the past year and I never even suspected it.

She always answered when I called, never argued, always eagerly gave sex, was really fun to be with and she was at my house 3 or 4 days a week. She was a unicorn until the last month.

I was always cautious with women, but from that point on, 10 years ago, I started to avoid women and shortly after that I discovered MGTOW and it made me feel relieved that it wasn't just me that felt this way. I started thinking about every past female and realized they were all like this. So many things I didn't notice were crystal clear now.

Big wake up call, 3 years of being a unicorn was an act, so I'll never trust a woman with anything ever again.

gantz_au · 2021-01-11T00:42:41+00:00

It took a long period of time watching all the men around me be destroyed by women and never recover.

I learned from their mistakes and made sure to keep my ego in check since I also observed others who saw what I saw, but decided it wasn't going to happen to them because they're just too good or whatever bullshit they convinced themselves.

Since then, my life has gotten so much better and I am doing very well for myself. I've figured out how the world works enough to get exactly what I want out of it without it interfering with my life.

MappingPNW · 2021-01-11T03:18:39+00:00

Growing up my mom was fat (gained a lot of weight while pregnant with me and even more after I was born) dad put up with it cause he cared about our family.

Once I was in middle school my mom decided to lose some weight and basically immediately decided she was too good for my dad so they eventually got a divorce in typical fashion with her getting the house he bought and him having to rent a shitty apt while having to pay child support.

My mom then started trying to control me the way she had controlled my dad so we started fighting and eventually I left to live with my dad

Even when I lived with my dad full time and my brother was with us on the weekends my mom still got child support for both of us and used it to go on several fancy vacations for herself

Talked to her recently and she thinks her kicking me out was her “saving my brother” which is to say that she could not manipulate him effectively with me still there

Signal-Accident2938 · 2021-01-11T05:00:01+00:00

I came home from my first semester of college and I told my mother I got a C - Average in all my classes. My mother told me with grades like that I will get a low paying job after college. She then told me no attractive woman would ever marry me because I wouldn’t have an expensive car.

astuteglute · 2021-01-10T23:44:08+00:00

Family court, Fn joke

_Fireside_ · 2021-01-11T06:06:59+00:00

I think it started in school. Boys were you know playing video games, watching cartoons and stuff like that. Nobody even knew about love back then, but girls were way ahead of boys. They started dating 2-3 boys at the same time. Back then I understood that these are damaged goods.

Then in college, everything started to make sense. Women used to take advantage of men, cheat on men, blame men and stuff like that. There was one incident in our college where a guy I know (one of the nicest guys I've known) was dating this chick who not only cheated on him, but lied that he attacked her when all he did was confront her. Dude was immediately thrown out of college. The last time I saw him he joined some shitty college, pretty much wrecked his career. I just felt sad for him. No man should ever go through that.

Then when I started working after graduating from college, this incident might've been a nail in the coffin. So, there was this chick who was my coworker who asked me to help her setup a Tinder account. I did and she started getting many matches from thirsty simps. I mean honestly, she doesnt even look that good. Anyways, she used to show me our chats and I used to be like whatever. Then as months went by, she broke a secret that shook my foundations. She was married, and her husband was living in a different country trying to get her a visa so that she could move in with him. For her to do this while her innocent husband working his ass off for their future just made me so angry.

There are many more incidents which are just not worth talking because it makes me more and more angry.

Women aren't innocent souls, they aren't.

thehedgehawg · 2021-01-11T00:43:54+00:00

Got married and had a kid...

PrestigiousGreen3 · 2021-01-10T23:57:37+00:00

Minimum wage

dnnastyness1992 · 2021-01-11T06:18:16+00:00

My ex- she was obsessed with me and getting my approval when I just liked her, but when I began to feel strongly for her, she became cold. She broke up with me.

CodeDiscombobulated1 · 2021-01-11T06:27:37+00:00

living with my mother

nagging, shouting and hypocracy all day every day

Takkune · 2021-01-11T08:38:49+00:00

Female friends in high school. I had the "privilege" of getting to see their two faced true selves.

One chick wanted to be with this dude who wouldn't give her the time of day but instead of improving herself she dated/banged a bunch of guys in his friend group to try to get him jealous/get his attention.

Another just wanted sex with any guy she could get her hands on other than the looksmatch that wanted to actually date her. She did end up marrying the poor simp in her late 20s after her mother nagged her to settle down.

Another's boyfriend broke up with her and, again, instead of moving on and improving she became almost stalker-like and would threaten his new girlfriend.

All the females in my friend group would say one thing to non-friends "that shirt is sooo cute" only to call that same person a slut (if female) or creep/loser (if male) not 20 seconds later.

Needless to say I broke away from that group pretty quickly after high school. I only kept up with the 2nd chick somewhat because we used to be "besties" so she would message me from time to time. It wasn't until I quit Facebook and got a new phone number that I was able to shake her off, too.

*edit: thinking back, I did have a huge red pill when I was in elementary school. I was always sort of an outcast so I never got invited to play this big game of freeze tag that would go on during recess. It wasn't until this popular girl got froze near where I was playing that I finally got an invite. I unfroze her and excitedly joined the chaos or so I thought. The others just kept going and ignored me. I learned at that moment how manipulative girls will be to get what they want. At the time I only applied that to "pretty/popular" girls but my experience with the outcast girls inn high school that appeaeance and social standing doesn't change their core manipulative nature.

2021-01-11T01:01:12+00:00

I did go out with my first girlfriend for 4 years and she cheated on me because she felt like then turned me back and said he had small cock to my face,after several days she broke up with me again and tried to show me that she is with another man thru whatsapp status.

after several months of silence she write me back and because her crush did the same thing what she did to me and she felt how did I feel and felt so sorry.

Stupid fucking bluepill me accepted her again and crushed by her again. BUT!

At the moment clock shows me 3;56am

I'm alone at my home playing my favorite game, drinking a nice warm tea, getting fitter every day, making some money thru bitcoin and making upgrades on myself.

I realised that that day I dreamt I saw her cheat on me in my dream and it was more realistic then real life itself, I just woke up then punched a wall instantly. After this day I decided to make change and I discovered Red Pill and im so fucking glad I did.

Aussie_Chart_Trader · 2021-01-11T08:45:01+00:00

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FanofLemmy · 2021-01-11T13:13:18+00:00

Dating when I was younger, girls would tell me their body count, that they were easy, but then tell me that I needed to pay to get in their pants with dinners and what not.

My first gf left me (5'7, lifter) for a 5'1 chubby asian cell repair guy, and they got married about 7 months later.

My second gf ghosted me for a month and then expected that i was there for her when she got back. Out of curiosity I did see her. Her parents loved me and were very happy to see me, so was her younger sister, but I knew she was getting railed by her ex. I dipped and never spoke to her again.

My mom and her sister went to NYC for a vacation, just the two of them, which was weird, because her and my dad did everything together. Apparently a guy from their childhood was going to go rail my mom and her sister on this "weekend trip". Dad found out, whole shit show insued. Mom tried to bribe me and my brother to go with her. I stayed with my dad, my brother who was five went with my mom. That whole 3 or 4 months created some of the worse issues I still deal with to this day. Parents got back together, my dad told me he didnt want to have us grow up without him in our lives. Mom was not happy.

Found out my grandpa, (dads dad) who served in the CAF during WWII, had been raising other mens children because his wife had been a dumb cum receptacle while he was fighting. Apparently she never got pregnant when he was overseas, but she still slept with the other guys when he came back. Some of my aunts and uncles looks nothing like their father, the the family suspects but never says anything.

Gf cheated on her ex with me, then cheated on me with her ex. So much gaslighting during that incident.

Girl told me that inwas too uncontrollable and had to break up with me. Dated her for a couple of months.

My best friend is so whipped by his 20 year senior, immigrant fiance. I feel bad for him, but he cucked himself and goes along with it.

A lot of the guys at work are happy wife, happy life guys. They are pussies and think they are better than me because they have fat, ugly wives, who control them and what they do.

YouTube and other media that has people share their experiences with women to reinforce my beliefs.

Each one of those was like a piece of the pill, that all culminated in a massive horse tranquilizer that was shoved down my throat. Not long after, the black pill was shoved up my ass and now I really no longer care about anyone or anything that doesn't benefit me. The joy of life is gone, save for my hobbies and a few things I still gain pleasure from, like lifting, cars, and solitude.

I still wouldn't trade all this bullshit to go back to being a simp.

How can you be disrespected by someone who doesn't even respect themselves?

silly_birb · 2021-01-11T08:44:26+00:00

"A woman is her friends"

Schlusse1 · 2021-01-12T13:34:33+00:00

Two big things for me but through other people. The first was my father telling that is newest daughter, my little sister was in fact not his as his wife at the time had cheated on me. I know my father had always wanted a daughter so it obvious to see how devastates he was. I remember being incredulous as to how a person could be so darn cruel to another...

The second happen to my uncle, as he stated dating a spanish girl. She was very sweet and got along very well with the rest of our family. Then they had a son and her true colours showed. She immediatelly stopped contact with the rest of our family, broke up with my uncle and revealed that she was actually a lesbian, just looking to have a child and bag some child support from him...

I've been absolutely terrified of women since...

SwiftStrik3 · 2021-01-11T07:14:21+00:00

I've got one from recent memory. My Ex friend who is borderline and bipolar. Her bf is the typical asshole drug dealer who is a piece of shit. Her older sisters don't like the dude and for good reason. This dude has done some terrible shit to her and preys on her self esteem. One being that the dude raped her. She automatically forgets the bad shit he does(doesn't matter what it is) the next day and thinks he's this great guy. I'm also certain he cheated on her because he hid his ex gf on his phone from her for 2 yrs.

I'm a decent dude with morals mind you. To sum it up I was treated like fucking shit, devalued, and disrespected at every turn while that cunt is treated wayyyyy better than me. I try to make plans to hangout, nope never follows through, never answers, or suddenly makes vague excuses. I got tired of her bullshit stonewalling and eventually stopped talking to her. I'm not wasting my time on black holes .

The kicker is all she does is get drunk and high with that loser and complains about not having friends. She gives that dude 100% effort while putting in zero effort toward her "friends".

Tl;dr Ex friend of mine who has bipolar and borderline confirms that asshole drug dealers who does all kinds of bad shit to his partner gets treated better than decent guys.

nikonikosuru · 2021-01-11T10:15:43+00:00

A woman past the wall told me that there's no point in dating a man who isn't rich. And I hand't even brought up the topic.

haven20N · 2021-01-11T15:06:48+00:00

Was married for 4 years, all she did was nag didnt have an income, was always trying to find ways to spend on useless shit until my father died.

She laughed at my fathers death, her mom just ignored it.

I quickly divorced and never again i never looked back.

I did heard from her cousin, she tried suicide multiple times and failed.

FridgeSnickers · 2021-01-11T17:59:03+00:00

Towards the end of my first serious relationship, I found out that I had a lot of eskimo brothers.

For those of you who dont know what that is. Urbandictionary.com defines Eskimo Brothers as "When two males acknowledge having been intimate with the same female and remain on good terms, the men are now bonded by having shared the same igloo at one time or another."

NetGrimm · 2021-01-11T18:26:35+00:00

Getting married.

kriskros18 · 2021-01-12T00:17:22+00:00

My sisters come to me only when they need me buy them $tuff.

HappinessIsWarm · 2021-01-12T02:01:13+00:00

I broke up with my ex of 4 years when I was 19. I loved her incredibly deeply but she was very untrustworthy. She almost immediately started dating my best friend who stopped talking to me. So I lost not only the woman I loved but my best friend. Double whammy.

Tried dating a few girls immediately afterwards but they were all so awful - sarcastic, bitchy, self-obsessed, entitled. Been single since, I've just turned 26. Had to reject a few women over th3 years as i just do not have an interest.

Also once I saw my exes facebook messages to her best friend and she was referring to men in the olympics as 'meat', it was eye opening to say the least.

Rooftopred · 2021-01-12T05:50:30+00:00

No major moment of realization but more of noticing a buildup of little things that led me to the red pill. Mainly through bad experiences of my own and noticing the mistreatment of my close friends.

Examples:

Girl at college is very interested in me. Very clear hints, friends even told me she said I was “boyfriend material”. Finally invite her to my dorm where she then explains that I need to be okay with her flirting with other men in front of me. It completely kills the mood and instead of banging I decide to watch Shrek. She leaves after the movie and then asks for my Netflix password. “Nope”

Meet another girl at college through mutual friends, she gives me her number. Text a bit and she invites me to see her perform a concert for her church. I go and pay the entrance fee. She performs and then leaves with friends while ignoring my call and text congratulating her on her performance. I was just used to improve attendance at the event. Had a drink at the strip joint down the street to celebrate the let down.

Friend of mine was dating his ex for years. She breaks up with him to do extascy and have threesomes. Then starts sending him nudes anytime she’s going to be back in town so that he takes her out until she leaves again. Very sad and manipulative. He’s desperate to try and get her back but she just saw him as a free meal and temporary dick. Tried to gently help him through that for a while before blowing up and telling him what was going on.

nameless2302 · 2021-01-11T13:52:09+00:00

When you have to deal with your own mom's stupid "ultimatums".

IHadToMakeAProfile · 2021-01-12T02:18:08+00:00

When my mother left me to raise another mans kids because my dads business failed. I was 6 years old. when the other mans youngest kid reached 18 years of age he kicked her out and she then asked me for money!!! The audacity on these bitches. maybe 1 day I will write my story for this sub.

Title	What's the biggest red pill you've personally experienced?
Author	mae1995111
Upvotes	41
Comments	99
Date	January 10, 2021 11:13 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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