Basis on the above, and since we accepted that neither is reasonable or reasonably well-liked, why is we condemn the female un-realism but not the male un-realism?
I"m not doing that. I'm criticizing the contrast of realism in women to unrealism in men in cartoons. Women are drawn more realistically because sexualization is priority number 1. Men are drawn more caricatured and exaggerated. I think both sexes lose here, and this is part of the reason I'm interested in men's rights. I think its sexist to disregard the beauty of the male form to the point of not even drawing them realistically while obsessing over the female form so much as to objectify.
A muscular body is a healthy body.
False equivalency. Nothing is "healthy" about the ridiculous forms men are drawn in in art. The closest "real" parallel is an unnatural look sculpted in the gym. Real athletes don't look anything close to that. I'm not disparaging muscularity. I'm disparaging flanderized hypermasculinity.
I mean... You're not right... You can say stupid shit a thousand times more, but it doens't make it anymore true.
A good example is Chris Hemsworth in the Thor movies, he always goes shirtless/almost nude at least once in each movie.
First off... he doesn't look even remotely close to the given example... Not even almost. Attractive women in these do look real. Chris Hemsworth doesn't look like fucking Broly, or any other pertinent character to this conversation. Absolutely preposterous.
2ndly. He is just an already attractive guy that happens to be big. You literally just went all the way to one end of a spectrum. Lets just pretend that actors like Matt Damon, Keanu Reeves, and Matt Bomer don't have more mainstream sex appeal...
he always goes shirtless/almost nude at least once in each movie. They call it a celebration of the male form. If it happens to a woman, it is sexualizing her. There is a huge double standard whether you like it or not.
No no no you dense motherfucker. The issue with the double standards and sexualizing women is that its fucking one sided. For every sexualized man there are 100 flanderized women. Doing it with men more often is good for both sexes. It bridges the double standard. Also, I don't know if it isn't abundantly obvious but more often than not media that shows off a guy as "hot" is intended to be fucking comedy. Its like "hahahahaha hes hot and he has a shirt off lmfao!". Equating hot men to comedy is insanely insulting and a massive societal problem. Fuck even men do it. The repression is palpable.
If you're going to make media (that isn't intended to be straight up porn) that objectifies people, you can't just do it to one sex.
Agreed. It's the hyper-masculine body image that's the real harm. Not that boys shouldn't be encouraged to be generally fit, but Hollywood has gone way way beyond that.
Your lack of actual evidence aside, they should be getting more popular. Western countries are facing an obesity epidemic. Obesity should be avoided and discouraged, not embraced and celebrated.
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How out of touch with reality can you fucking be!?
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That isn't an ideal man lmao. That is what retarded neckbeards think the ideal man is. No one wants that.
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I"m not doing that. I'm criticizing the contrast of realism in women to unrealism in men in cartoons. Women are drawn more realistically because sexualization is priority number 1. Men are drawn more caricatured and exaggerated. I think both sexes lose here, and this is part of the reason I'm interested in men's rights. I think its sexist to disregard the beauty of the male form to the point of not even drawing them realistically while obsessing over the female form so much as to objectify.
False equivalency. Nothing is "healthy" about the ridiculous forms men are drawn in in art. The closest "real" parallel is an unnatural look sculpted in the gym. Real athletes don't look anything close to that. I'm not disparaging muscularity. I'm disparaging flanderized hypermasculinity.
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I feel like you didn't even read what I said and just repeated the same thing.
I'm saying women are more often than not NOT EXAGERATED. Stop using the exception to compare to the overwhelming majority of the opposition.
Exaggerated in art - Men:90% Women:10%
Realistic in art - Men:10% Women:90%
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I mean... You're not right... You can say stupid shit a thousand times more, but it doens't make it anymore true.
First off... he doesn't look even remotely close to the given example... Not even almost. Attractive women in these do look real. Chris Hemsworth doesn't look like fucking Broly, or any other pertinent character to this conversation. Absolutely preposterous.
2ndly. He is just an already attractive guy that happens to be big. You literally just went all the way to one end of a spectrum. Lets just pretend that actors like Matt Damon, Keanu Reeves, and Matt Bomer don't have more mainstream sex appeal...
No no no you dense motherfucker. The issue with the double standards and sexualizing women is that its fucking one sided. For every sexualized man there are 100 flanderized women. Doing it with men more often is good for both sexes. It bridges the double standard. Also, I don't know if it isn't abundantly obvious but more often than not media that shows off a guy as "hot" is intended to be fucking comedy. Its like "hahahahaha hes hot and he has a shirt off lmfao!". Equating hot men to comedy is insanely insulting and a massive societal problem. Fuck even men do it. The repression is palpable.
If you're going to make media (that isn't intended to be straight up porn) that objectifies people, you can't just do it to one sex.
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Good lord... Fucking lost causes all around. So entrenched in your stupid neckbeard fantasies that reality is lost on you.
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Says the misogynist...
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Anti-feminism and misogyny are literally synonyms.
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No. That's just male power fantasy perpetuated by neckbeards.
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Agreed. It's the hyper-masculine body image that's the real harm. Not that boys shouldn't be encouraged to be generally fit, but Hollywood has gone way way beyond that.
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What's wrong with taking care of your skin, gaining muscle and getting lean?
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Your lack of actual evidence aside, they should be getting more popular. Western countries are facing an obesity epidemic. Obesity should be avoided and discouraged, not embraced and celebrated.
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