Mom Dresses Six-Year-Old Son As Girl, Threatens Dad With Losing His Son For Disagreeing

lostapwbm · 2018-11-26T21:23:33+00:00

Meanwhile, Dad isn’t seeing signs of gender dysphoria. In the father’s home, James appears to be a normal boy and doesn’t identify as a girl. He has a choice of boy’s or girl’s clothes there, and he chooses to dress as a boy. The fact that James changes gender identity depending on which parent is present makes the diagnosis of gender dysphoria both dubious and harmful.

Let's see

Dad thinks James is a boy.
James thinks James is a boy.
Mom thinks James is actually Luna.

I'm no expert, but I think I know who is playing out of tune in this ensemble.

When James is away from his mother, he consistently rejects the idea that he is “Luna girl” or that he wants to be a girl. Because the court prohibits dad from dressing James as a boy or from teaching him that he is a boy by sharing religious or science-based teachings on sexuality, dad presents James with male and female clothing options and James always chooses, even insists on, his boy clothes. Dad told me, “James violently refuses to wear girl’s clothes at my home.” This is not a sign of gender dysphoria.

If you wonder why men should avoid the Family Courts like they would a leper colony, here's your shining reason:

The family courts can go 'fuck your beliefs, fuck logic, fuck science. The woman wins, you fucking lose. The end.'

ShellBeTheDeathOfMe · 2018-11-26T16:25:38+00:00

It's the mother who has mental issues is this case. She's fucking up her kids mind and life.

Lethn · 2018-11-26T17:15:49+00:00

Mothers being given this ultimate care taker award is feminism's biggest win. It allows women to use the law against men when they are married or have kids in very creative ways. It has turned men into being slaves and money generators for women. Feminism has also cleverly blamed men for making more money. I actually wonder how many feminists don't have to work because they have a rich husband.

alclarkey · 2018-11-26T19:23:55+00:00

That's fucking psychotic and abusive. This woman needs to be in jail.

TheShShCreature · 2018-11-26T18:02:32+00:00

What. The. Fuck

Familiarwobble17 · 2018-11-26T18:56:53+00:00

What is wrong with people

bkrugby78 · 2018-11-26T18:31:12+00:00

This is so disturbing to read. That poor poor child.

Jayakaj · 2018-11-26T19:16:46+00:00

This is how serial killers are made

YetAnotherCommenter · 2018-11-27T01:20:36+00:00

The Federalist does have a partisan bias here, but going by the contents of the report I have to say I share concern for James.

It seems to me like James, when given choices, prefers to socially present as male. His mother, on the other hand, seems to be trying to force a feminine gender identity upon him.

This is grotesque.

Maybe the report leaves some details out, but going by what's in it, there is really nothing I can say about this other than "the mother is an abusive shrew." As trans people who were not raised in accepting homes know very well, having an alien gender identity forced upon you is hardly a pleasant experience.

From the report, its obvious that James doesn't meet the threshold for gender dysphoria. Its more likely that James is being used as a pawn in a messy divorce by a ruthless mother. If James is not gender dysphoric, transition is not medically acceptable.

Throwaway_Old_Guy · 2018-11-26T23:19:40+00:00

What needs to happen here is for a completely independent assessment be done.

Kid goes away for a week, no contact with either parent and is observed. Give him the options to do boy/girl let him do what he does, and at the end of it ask him how he enjoyed it.

No leading questions, just did you enjoy having fun?

Let him lead this, it's his life. If Mom continues to insist, then deal with her and the therapist.

2018-11-26T23:28:21+00:00

Some people just shouldn't be parents. This mother is one of them.

Talindras · 2018-11-26T19:21:13+00:00

I am curious about the "necessity" of mom trying to get dad to pay for transition-related expenses. Does this child *require* transition in order to survive? In order to be a productive member of society? I see this as similar to the child wanting a tattoo, and mom trying to get dad to pay for it. It's a cosmetic body augmentation.

Melohdy · 2018-11-27T00:41:07+00:00

Sounds like the child just wants a mom and dad and is willing to do anything to make them love him.

Deadeye_Spider · 2018-11-27T12:11:23+00:00

as a closeted trans person, that's one more potential name I gotta cross off the goddamn list when I break out of the goddamn bedroom-sized closet.

PlayDeadPanda · 2018-11-26T19:53:32+00:00

This is so disheartening to hear. I’ve never had a problem with how any fully grown individual orients themselves, but the constant and overt advertisement of sex and sexuality as a pillar of socialization has been creating these situations for too long.

TruthDontChange · 2018-11-27T04:32:10+00:00

It will be interesting to see what court ultimately determines.

Hadashi_blacksky · 2018-11-27T09:16:42+00:00

To be fair, this happened to a couple of presidents too.

Deadeye_Spider · 2018-11-27T12:10:34+00:00

"SHE TOOK THE FUCKING KIDS": The Sequel

CP473 · 2018-11-27T22:05:23+00:00

http://savejames.com/

He is undergoing “social transitioning” therapy to prepare him for chemical castration at age 8

gthockeydude · 2018-11-27T01:03:15+00:00

Someone tweet this to Ben Shaprio

antilopes · 2018-11-27T18:41:17+00:00

If true this is outrageous, but The Federalist would have a more credible story if it were told by a psychiatrist specialising in trans patients, instead of by a campaigner with such a strong personal position. Similarly, quoting a Christian minister does not strengthen their case. It would not be hard to find a psychiatrist to make the assessment this kid is not trans if the story is true as presented.

"which may include hormonal sterilization starting at age eight".
"If we do not save James from a misdiagnosis, his next step is chemical castration at age eight"

Those lines blow the credibility of the author. Apart from that the story looked plausible though it was mildly concerning that his ex is a pediatrician, and her professional training would normally make her sceptical of a therapist who acted as unprofessionally as described.

He is referring to the use of a publerty hormone blocker. This can not be started until puberty, at Tanner stage 2 or 3. (Before puberty there is no puberty hormone to block).
Puberty for boys is around 12. It can be a little earlier. For girls puberty is a year earlier, but precocious puberty is much more common, a few girls start at nine or even eight. So that is where the "eight" comes from - he's taken the extreme end of the normal range, and he's unjustifiably used the range for the wrong sex. He has claimed it is "the next step", although there is no reason to think this boy would not hit puberty at the normal age of 12 or 11.

"Chemical castration" and "hormonal sterilisation" is weird language to use for a hormone blocker. Blockers have been used since the 1980s to stop otherwise ordinary kids starting puberty too early, they are not new drugs and they have been found to be reversible, at least in that younger age group.

If the child later starts a hormonal transition without puberty in their birth sex they will become infertile, so some go off the blocker first for long enough to develop and store sperm.

Barthaneous · 2018-11-26T18:39:38+00:00

If my son actually agreed with his mother on wanting to be a girl, and I mean I already tried talking him out of it. I would say "fine you both go your own way.I am out"

If a woman can kill her unborn baby without the persmission of the father, than a father as the mans right should have every right to choose not to support his children or ex wife or girlfriend if they are not going to follow the rules of the home.

No homosexuality is totally ok. Not promoting the perverted nature is also ok..

Mom Dresses Six-Year-Old Son As Girl, Threatens Dad With Losing His Son For Disagreeing

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Title	Mom Dresses Six-Year-Old Son As Girl, Threatens Dad With Losing His Son For Disagreeing
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Date	November 26, 2018 4:17 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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