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Senile old ex-president George HW Bush accused of sexually assaulting some b-list actress by touching her ass, or some crap.

ThePigmanAgain

October 25, 2017
175 upvotes
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5014447/Actress-alleges-George-H-W-Bush-sexually-assaulted-her.html
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Title Senile old ex-president George HW Bush accused of sexually assaulting some b-list actress by touching her ass, or some crap.
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ThePigmanAgain

Upvotes 175
Comments 113
Date October 25, 2017 11:21 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]lolbience 83 points84 points85 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

TLDR: A no name actress recounts when a wheelchair bound man awkwardly touched her butt during a photo op she asked for. 4 YEARS later, she claims the incident was sexual assault, has no problem painting him as a predator in attempt to gain publicity.

His wife was literally in the same picture. Spotlight hungry cunts like this are ready to paint men as predators and delegitamize actual sexual assault victims. Truly despicable.

[–]machingunwhhore 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It didn't say butt, he touched her from behind

[–]InsanoVolcano 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Coulda been her leg, or back, or shoulder. He was in a wheelchair, its hard to say

[–]youcantdenythat 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe she backed into his shoulder and touched him with her butt

[–]machingunwhhore 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And it seems people think him apologizing means he is "guilty", I would apologize if some girls butt touched me backing while I was sitting.

[–]literallyliquid 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm scared that we're going to a place in the world where I'm going to accidentally bump shoulders with a woman on a crowded subway and she's gonna scream "RAPE".

[–]Jeff4116 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is why Japanese men are now asking for male-only train cars:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/eimiyamamitsu/men-in-japan-think-there-should-be-men-only-trains

[–]literallyliquid 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So we have to be excluded because of female hysteria? Shall we all get chastity belts too because that'll solve the rape claims.... Hashtag are about face solutions....

[–]Rethgil 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This has pretty much happened. In the UK an actress took a man to court for sexusl assault on a subway. CCTV clearly showed she was obstructing a main walkway and he accidentally briefly bumped into her. Even then it was the briefest tiniest physical contact made accidentally.

Yet for a time there it was in headlines, 'man sexually assaulted me says actress".

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Already happens. At least in the UK. And he didn't even touch her, we know that because there's a videotape! Yet he was still charged with rape.

[–]perplexedm 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This happens in India quite a lot.

[–][deleted] 76 points77 points78 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

No one is immune from the witch hunt

[+]icandrive1551 points 8 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

This type of thing is really going to drive men to not want anything to do with women. This is a very toxic environment.

[–]Rethgil 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It brings to mind Communist McCarthyism, witch hunt hysteria and every other era we now look back on with sanity where one group were condemned on the basis of gossip, insinuation and suspicion.

But never fact. Never on the basis of evidence.

Every 'Metoo' hashtag posted is a personal warning marker of yet another person who would have been at the front of the crowd screaming "burn the witch" the loudest at the public executions. What irony that they are mostly feminists. Way to go to remove that 'bitter man hater' tag....

[–]Greg_W_Allan 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Two thirds of accusing witnesses in the witch hunts were women.

[+]Schkateboarda1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Witch hunt? Weinstein is a creep that deserved this. This is obviously crap. I wouldn't call one person rightfully being exposed as a predator, and one old guy wrongfully being accused a witch hunt. Although I could very well be out of the loop on something.

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points46 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did they denounce bill Clinton?

[–]Aivias 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The exact opposite, they now laud Bush Jr.

If anything should tell you how little of politics is actually about politics anymore its that fact. The publicity and 'oh shucks, that old Bush guy huehue' from certain sources is obvious hackery to attempt to paint Trump as illegitimate in all eyes.

[–]Mayocide_Now 27 points28 points29 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Does the story actually say he touched her ass? It just says he touched her and told a dirty joke...could have been an arm tap...

[–]evil-doer 50 points51 points52 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If he had touched her ass, she would have said so. This entire thing is about the joke. In the feminist mindset, a sexual joke is a sexual assault.

[–]Mayocide_Now 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

DING DING DING DING....tell em whats hes won, Johnny!

[–]Laugh_At_Everything 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A living room set, along with a trip to Bermuda!

[–]Mayocide_Now 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

EXACTOMUNDO!

[–]Lethn 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Actress Heather Lind made allegations Tuesday claiming when she met former President George H.W. Bush, 93, he 'sexually assaulted' her from his wheelchair

[–]Mayocide_Now 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes...but no one know what "sexually assaulted" means anymore. Could very well be he touched her arm without affirmative consent and the "creeped her out" by telling a dirty joke.

[–]Lethn 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I get that but this is why it's a good idea to read the articles carefully before jumping to conclusions.

He didn't shake my hand. He touched me from behind from his wheelchair with his wife Barbara Bush by his side. He told me a dirty joke,' Lind alleges.

Which to me, is just being weird, these feminists seem to be going on an accusation spree lately thanks to Harvey Weinstein.

[–]Mayocide_Now 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He touched me from behind from his wheelchair

That is poorly written. It could mean "He was behind me in his wheelchair and touche me [location of touching not described]" or "He was in his wheelchair and touched my behind [ass]"

[–]Lethn 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree and this is the daily mail but still lol, I guess it is there, but then again it might also her being deliberately vague so she doesn't have to explain herself like a lot of these accusers that suddenly pop up out of nowhere.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She literally said "he touched me from behind from his wheelchair". So it was somewhere on the back 50% of her body, and since he was in his chair, it's safe to assume he couldn't reach her shoulders or something. It's also easy to assume it wasn't her ass, as she is making as many allegations as she can given the interaction, and she would've said "buttocks" if that's where it was. The ambiguity is to not lie, but to mislead the reader into assuming it was her posterior.

[–]josiasx 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

feminists seem to be going on an accusation spree lately thanks to Harvey Weinstein.

So far its looking more like a token effort. I've never heard of these guys, had to look them up on wiki. They seem to be past the prime of their career. I haven't seen an actual current hollywood money-maker get blasted yet.

In fact, as much as this seems to be a witch hunt. It seems more of a cover up. Virtue signalling by outing has-beens. But not making any real impact.

At least, thats what it looks like to me now. Perhaps this is just the crack in the damn...

[–]IronJohnMRA 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He touched me from behind from his wheelchair with his wife Barbara Bush by his side.

Behind. That word is deliberately vague. Behind where? On her back? On her arms? Could it be slang for buttocks? Maybe so people reading quickly, or not thinking clearly mistake what she said? For example, confusing a region of the body for specific location? Could be.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's easy to misread "from behind" as "my behind". It's obvious he didn't touch her butt, because she definitely would've said "buttocks" if that's where it was.

[–]IronJohnMRA 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said. I think you found the words I couldn't.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 65 points66 points67 points 8 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link

Seriously, who the fuck does this? What poor excuse for a human being hassles an old man with one foot in the grave? What a turd of a woman.

[–]Sasha_ 46 points47 points48 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She's a feminist. Or maybe a delusional twat. Same thing really.

[–]Hereforthefreecake 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

why not both?

[–]somefinfishy 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone after publicity

[–]Hirudin 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anything for attention.

[+]rawbface -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago* (43 children) | Copy Link

If it's true, bring him to justice. If she's lying, she should be punished.

This shouldn't be a men's rights issue. If a rapist has dementia that doesn't make him less of a rapist.

Edit: grammar

Edit 2: I'm using a rapist with dementia as an example of the faulty logic being employed by OP and others. I'm not accusing GHWB of rape...

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If a rapist is dementia that doesn't make him less of a rapist.

Actually if it is Dementia he is not rapist.

Mental Defect.

[–]rawbface 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fixed my grammar. Thanks.

[+]icandrive1551 points 8 years ago [recovered] (29 children) | Copy Link

Bring him to justice? A 90+ year old man for touching her ass? Are you kidding? He shouldn't have done it but what real harm befell this woman as a result? Does she have PTSD or something? Seriously get real. She needs to toughen up just a little.

[–]rawbface 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (28 children) | Copy Link

No. That's not how this works. You do the crime, you receive the punishment. Sexual assault is a crime, and so is falsely accusing someone of sexual assault (just in case that is the case here).

It is not for you to decide how much damage this should have caused her. How many men were laughed at and told to "man up" when they attempted to report sexual assault or rape? And now you are doing the exact same thing to this woman, just because she reported it? Even your the post title is patronizing.

[–]Tramm 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/hslutYIQ1Bc

But this is fine?

[–]Onion_Guy 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for at least speaking sense.

This title is loaded with bullshit. Calling her a b-list actress as if it means she is less able to complain about being sexually assaulted, and directly implying that HW is old and thus should be allowed to sexually assault. Really gross. And enough of the community seems to be down with this that you’re getting downvotes for pointing out the hypocrisy of it all.

I’d never go out in public and call myself a men’s rights activist because I don’t want to be equated with people in this sub who justify or ignore sexual assault by anybody for any reason

[–]youcantdenythat 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Touching someone from behind is automatically sexual assault? She didn't say he actually touched her ass. Looks like they were huddled up for a picture. Maybe she touched his shoulder with her butt and shouldn't have stood so close?

[–]Onion_Guy 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Read a couple other comments - yeah that’d be fine but it sounds like that wasn’t the case

[–]youcantdenythat 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People can comment anything. I'm reading her actual tweet from the article. It doesn't say anywhere he did anything of a sexual nature to her other than possibly telling her vaguely described "dirty joke"

[–]rawbface 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Exactly my point. Your occupation does not affect the validity of your claim. Your popularity does not affect the validity of your claim. And being disabled does not preclude you from committing horrific acts.

If we want to be taken seriously, we should be calling out people like OP for their bullshit.

[–]Onion_Guy 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I try to do so as much as possible, but I definitely deem it too much work more than I should. Imagine if OP posts on 2X saying male sexual assault victims aren’t taken seriously, then someone tracks his account to this post. Boom. Whole movement looks like a bunch of asshats who defend men against all allegations - the same societal issue I think we all want to get rid of.

[–]rawbface 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That sub is another example of how circlejerks can be a dangerous thing. Let's not be the XY version of 2X.

[–]Rethgil -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

people in this sub who justify or ignore sexual assault

Please post proof of this here. Youre the one implying things.

[–]Onion_Guy 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The word you’re looking for is inferring. The title is plenty example. It’s dismissed as a load of crap because he’s old and she’s b-list. I’m a SA victim myself and the wording just stands out as incredibly dismissive, infantilizing, and frankly disgusting. I don’t know how people can look at posts like this and say things like “she should just suck it up, who cares if she’s being assaulted, he’s old”

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

First, his dementia diminishes his culpability. Second, only the most pathetic of people would be traumatized by someone touching their ass. Third, you are as bad as the turd accusing him.

[–]bortalizer93 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

sorry, but i have to agree with /u/rawbface. even the most pathetic of people should be treated equally before law.

that being said, the alleged victim should be more concise and precise in describing the whole assault incident, lest it would be more of a defamation than a cry for help in a sexual assault situation.

you don't really want to be the boy who cried wolf when it came to rape.

[–]rawbface -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are a disgrace to men's rights, and people like you hurt the movement more than you help. This isn't a woman haters club.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL! Another stranger acting like he's one of us! Go back to discussing fashion and video games, you fool.

[–]FlyingDutchman34 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Meh... quit trying to make this more than it is. First of all, if anything it’s harassment, if he grabbed a thigh or ass or whatever, it should be considered harassment which is wrong and he should be educated (if possible) on why that’s not appropriate. When you reference assault, you more reference a forced interaction. I know it’s a slight difference but it’s important. Finally I think some people do take liberties when they make these complaints. I’m not saying “man up” but maybe he accidentally brushed a thigh and she interpreted it as a grab ass? It to mention, highly likely if it was some good looking young actor she wouldn’t have thought twice about it, but it’s a former president, going to try and push the narrative some more and get some PR while she’s at it.

[–]rawbface -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m not saying “man up”

But you just said this, which means the same thing.

She needs to toughen up

And did you even read the article? He was telling her dirty jokes, grabbed her ass twice, and his bodyguard even told her "you shouldn't have stood next to him". I'm not passing judgement myself, but this was more than just a brush of the thigh.

[–]FlyingDutchman34 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ummm I personally never said toughen up.....

I read though the article and I didn’t see any mention of him grabbing her ass, let along twice. The o my hing I saw was that he brushed her from behind in the wheel chair. Either way, whatever he did was probably wrong, but most likely this is just a case of a girl wanting some attention and decided 4 years later was her best time to get some fame for a former president doing something she interpreted as bad

[–]rawbface 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm getting you confused with the other person who commented, and for that I apologize.

Here's from the article:

Lind said in her since-deleted Instagram post it happened a second time: 'And then, all the while being photographed, touched me again. Barbara rolled her eyes as if to say ''not again''. His security guard told me I shouldn't have stood next to him for the photo.'

[–]Admiral_Dildozer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's also from the Guardian, which is 50/50 bullshit on a good day.

[–]Daemonicus 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. That's not how this works. You do the crime, you receive the punishment.

Crime and punishment are not absolute. Context matters. If he is guilty of this, then his age, and mental health deserve to be taken into account.

[+]icandrive1551 points 8 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Not my post. But if manning up is good enough for men, why not for women?

[–]rawbface 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

My point is that it's not. You basically just said she should man up, though. More and more men are being taken seriously when talking about their sexual assault. It's attitudes like yours that set us back. Don't be like the feminazis.

[–]Onion_Guy 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bless you and your comments.

[+]icandrive1551 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I think part of my problem is a definition of sexual assault that includes touching an ass. On the spectrum of bad things this ranks very, very low. It kind of delegitimizes horrific things that are firmly in the realm of sexual assault.

[–]rawbface 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's a fair point and I can't say I know the nuances of the legal definition of sexual assault versus harassment, etc. But OP and others seem to imply that this woman's occupation and status invalidate her claim, and also that being disabled makes you unable to assault or harass someone.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was no rape, not even the turd herself is claiming there was rape. But then, you already knew that. You are either an idiot or a troll.

[+]mybloodcansing1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

Touching someone's ass, even on purpose, is not rape. For a crime to be committed you need the mental capacity to know what you're doing is wrong. This is why, for example, we don't throw 5 year old kids to jail if they touch an adult's ass.

[–]rawbface 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

This isn't relevant. I was using a rapist with dementia as an example of the faulty logic. I wasn't accusing Bush of rape.

[+]mybloodcansing1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

A rapist with dementia wouldn't go to jail either.

[–]rawbface 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

They'd go somewhere. And the person who got raped would have every right to seek justice. The crime doesn't magically go away because the criminal is disabled.

[+]mybloodcansing1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

They'd get treatment, or if they're a child, nothing would happen. Context is important. Google mens rea.

[–]rawbface 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So are you saying disabled people are incapable of committing crimes, and they receive absolutely no punishment for it?

[+]mybloodcansing1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes, if the mentally handicapped person has the mental capacity of a toddler, then no, he/she wouldn't be punished, for the same reason a toddler wouldn't be punished.

[–]rawbface 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

For how serious of a crime? What if they forcibly held down a woman and raped them? What happens to the mentally handicapped person then?

Juvenile penitentiaries exist, by the way....

[+]oconn1nj1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

If she's being "sexually assaulted" in the provided photograph, why is she smiling?

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently, feminist women like being sexually assaulted. That may explain why they can't stop talking about sexual assault!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How will she ever get over this?

[–]Rethgil 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I've always made clear that I felt we had yet to see the worst levels of feminist hysteria in the West. That although the rise of Men's Rights is encouraging, that things were going to get way worse for us before they got better.

I believe THESE are the days I feared we would face.

When decent or good men are now terrorised by the thought that a vindictive woman they met for ten seconds decades ago may suddenly decide to lie to extort money, or because she is unbalanced and has a victim complex, or because of an anti male agenda.

And any woman, ANY woman, is now suddenly more powerful and wields more power than even an ex president of the United States.

Because, apparently, women NEVER lie, and all men may secretly be rapists.

These are dark days. But when we look back, from the future, maybe these will turn out to be the days that unite us, and become a turning point. Maybe, hopefully, in years to come, it is a time people will look back on as the time when society gradually woke up to the total imbalance of power between men and women. Of total emasculation and male disposability, a lack or respect and trust, or rights for men in culture.

And a lack of ANY expectation that women should be held accountable, or responsibile, for their OWN personal choices and decisions, instead of blaming men for EVERY regret, or questionable decision or deal they have made in their life.

Not every perceived hurt feeling is 'sexism', or deserves a workplace investigation just because a woman objects to a throwaway comment, or doesnt find a shared private joke funny. Not every choice to sleep with someone to advance their career is suddenly 'rape' just because they didn't get the film role they thought was part of the deal. Not every 'come on' is 'harassment' just because the man wasn't rich or handsome enough. Not every one night stand is 'rape' just because they got as drunk as their male partner did, but unlike him are legally privileged just for being female. Not every job a woman wants can pay the same as totally different jobs just because they claim anything different is an 'unfair wage gap'.

Women are human too. That means they should face equal RESPONSIBILITIES and not be protected like infant children by a legal system with more important issues to cope with. Women CAN simply walk out of a door and leave a partner causing them problems. Its what doors are for. To be walked in through, or out of. Its called CHOICE. They CAN simply tell someone their behavior is making them uncomfortable. They CAN say I am not interested in you. If AFTER that, the person ignored their wishes and went too far, THEN the legal system is there, for everybody who has actual EVIDENCE to support them. But where there is behaviour that is not illegal, but just makes a woman 'uncomfortable', then the women have a responsibility, like everybody else, to say and COMMUNICATE that they want the other person to change or stop the behavior that they dislike. And if the behaviour is not illegal, then they ALSO have a choice to use the DOOR. The courts are not there to punish non mindreading men because some women feel differently about some behaviors than other women. It is not there to play older overly protective brother to a six year old sister.

Enough of this trial by media, trial by sjw, trial by gossip and trial by social platforms. Its become a feminised culture where men are damned by gossip and suspicion, not by proof or evidence. Somebody needs to teach women how to communicate THEIR intentions, how to take RESPONSIBILITY for their choices, and as a last resort, how to use a DOOR when something makes them unhappy but is not breaking any laws. Somebody needs to put a stop to this reversed witch hunt culture. Rant over.

[+]icandrive1551 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

"And any woman, ANY woman, is now suddenly more powerful and wields more power than even an ex president of the United States."

This is the most frightening part. Absolute power and control over any man they choose to bring down. Any man.

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Look at all the great sportsmen who had their careers risked because of the claims of some woman who had no talent, no class and ultimately, no evidence.

In Britain, just last year, one of the key men responsible for the FIRST EVER space craft landing on a comet, was literally reduced to tears. Why? Because despite this first for mankind, his genius and his work, he made the mistake of wearing a shirt in a press conference that had SMALL SILHOUETTES OF NAKED WOMEN. Cue utter hysteria from feminists. Utter hysteria.

Instantly, the only news reports in Britain were not about this historic space achievement. They were reporting angry twitter feminists who slammed him as sexist for wearing the shirt.

Got so bad he nearly had a breakdown on air and this great genius was reduced to tears from the abuse, smears and threats. It only went away because (get this) it turned out he wore the shirt only because a friend of his designed it. A FEMALE friend.

Suddenly feminists didn't care anymore.

[–]bortalizer93 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because, apparently, women NEVER lie, and all men may secretly be rapists.

ah, i've seen this. my friend who's living in the us posted a feminist manifesto where they say (verbatim):

"when a woman told you that a man is horrible, do not question the woman. have it in your mind that the man is truly horrible, trust and believe the woman."

had a good time reminding her that the legal basis of global judicial system is "innocent until proven guilty" and onus probandi lies with those who made the claim.

[–]Mode1961 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This person is so so so right though, She says it right in the piece. She can use HER POWER and she is using it.

[–]DanteRu 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/Rc7i0wCFf8g

[–]theothermod[M] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

That's a shit title. The only reason I haven't removed this post is because there's some discussion on it.

In future, don't editorialise on titles.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If the reaction is anything to go by, the members don't agree with you. And where is the rule against editorializing on titles? I don't see it in the sidebar.

[–]theothermod -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

No clickbait titles.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You complained it was editorialized, not that it was clickbait.

[–]theothermod -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Whatever. It's still a shit title that makes the subreddit look bad.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Whatever indeed.

[–]bortalizer93 -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it was editorialized to became a clickbait and forming a pre-opinion before reading the title.

come on man, let's be the better person in this conflict.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL!

[+]mybloodcansing1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

So editorializing is fine, just we have to check with you first to make sure it doesn't make the sub look bad? Did I get that right, Mein Führer?

[–]theothermod 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, all you have to do is not load your title with emotional appeals to unsubstantiated assumptions. It's not that hard - 99% of subscribers manage to do it.

[–]perplexedm 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

In a statement to DailyMail.com the former president responded: 'President Bush would never - under any circumstance - intentionally cause anyone distress, and he most sincerely apologizes if his attempt at humor offended Ms. Lind.'

An apology without any clarity on the subject will not help at all. Men like that create issues for normal people, propagates all men are rapist image. Feel no need to support Bush in this case, unless he really clarifies the situation.

IF he touched her with a bad intend (both of them says there was bad humor, WTF Bush, can't you just behave even at this age?), even if she felt she was sexually assaulted because of his unwelcome interference on her, this past president should be punished without excuse. Otherwise, let his clarify his stance. An apology about a man with Dementia is not going to help.

Let normal men have peace, whiteknights in powerful position always sided with women which created current situation. Women abused weak men for their gains. In the end, common men on the road gets the short end of the stick. That should not be the case.

[–]aokusman 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

well he has apologized.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps just to be on the safe side? I mean, the poor old bastard probably can't tell W from Jeb any more...

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bollocks.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He said if she was made uncomfortable by his joke, he apologizes. He didn't apologize for "assaulting" her.

[–]aokusman 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok. Seems its open season on accusations.

[+]purple_kushy_pillow1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

You take the Daily Mail as real news?

[–]FruitierGnome 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You take cnn as real news?

[–]ThatNinaGAL -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My husband watched Strom Thurmond do this to a fellow student at a photo op. Nobody said anything. He'd give a lot to be able to redo that moment of his life and tell the nasty old fucker that his groping days were over.

Is GWB guilty of the same offense as Strom? I don't know. Nobody I trust witnessed him doing this. But I don't find the notion incredible.

[+]DolphinsAreOk -24 points-23 points-22 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This thread really makes it look like you guys dont mind sexual assault.

[–]tmone 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. It just makes you look like a mindless robot disregarding context, nuance, and common sense.

Fuck outa here.

[–]Mayocide_Now 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Touching someone's arm/back, etc. and telling a dirty joke my be impolite, but its not sexual assault. Now, if he pinched her ass, thats a different story....but the article doesn't say that.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why should anyone believe her without evidence 4 years after the fact?

Looks like if it actually happened she didn't mind either.

How dare some one not believe her story?

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

President bush stole my milk money!

Of course I have no proof and it was back in high school and I'm demanding twenty million and the free attention as a failed ageing male model but my male gender means I should DEFINITELY get interviews and lawyers interested and outraged feminist groups.

Aw, what? Damn. If only I were female....

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Senility is a mitigating factor, even if he did touch the precious creature's ass.

[–]Throwabanana69 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop assaulting me with your retarded neurosynapses

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