The secret to getting more women to the top could be giving fathers more time off

tonyfaulkner · 2016-02-15T17:12:09+00:00

To give men rights we must look at how the lack of that right affects women badly. It is quite the irony, is it not?

TheDemeisen · 2016-02-15T15:08:30+00:00

It's a no brainer really, give men equal paternity leave instead of the shitty crap they get now. Equality is a two way street.

dominotw · 2016-02-15T19:39:04+00:00

It has to be mandated.

Canada has parental leave, but they don't go to the lengths of mandating that men take half. They leave it up to the parents to decide how to allocate it, and, sure as shit, most families have the mother using all or most of it.

The only real solution is 50/50. Six months each, 9 months each, 12 months each ... the exact length can be debated over, but the fact both parents have to take it, and it's the same length for both are features that should be set in stone.

MalibuStayZ · 2016-02-15T15:33:00+00:00

Definitely something which could help improve the two main issues men and women are facing IMHO:

More representation and wage for women
More humane society for men, in which they are not considered as disposable and their value and dignity is not defined by success in their job

roharareddit · 2016-02-15T19:01:57+00:00

That's right, let women go to work and earn the bread.

Child support and alimony for men!

Aaod · 2016-02-15T18:57:36+00:00

Those with higher relative scores for women versus men on math tests, for instance, were correlated with more women in powerful roles.

This one I can agree on American women are disgusted by math, but women from other countries such as Russia do not seem to mind it.

mikesteane · 2016-02-15T17:14:35+00:00

I have yet to see any convincing argument for why we need more women at the top.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2016-02-15T23:34:01+00:00

Well not just that but also change the culture where fathers and mothers are neither celebrated nor denigrated for doing so.

microwave2000 · 2016-02-15T16:43:17+00:00

One closer step to the matriarchy of feminist dreams. Help men only if it will help women; otherwise who cares.

baskandpurr · 2016-02-15T20:59:27+00:00

Women will never settle for this idea. Men are supposed to work to pay for the woman to have children, that's the deal as far as they are concerned. Women don't really want men having more time off because children would have the same effect on men's pay as they do on women's. If there is any potential for extra time off it would be used by women.

AloysiusC · 2016-02-15T22:47:20+00:00

The secret to getting more women to the top: take pressure off all men and apply it to women. Problem is more women will also wind up at the bottom - as men are now.

RubixCubeDonut · 2016-02-15T20:29:42+00:00

I doubt it'll really help. The underlying issue is that women are specifically looking for men with higher earning potential. So, is it any surprise that you find more men in a place where women want them?

Giving fathers as much time off as women will probably just cause men to either start making up for it in other ways or giving up and becoming MGTOW.

icefire54 · 2016-02-16T07:50:06+00:00

These studies that find corporate gains from female leaders are bullshit. This study even admits at the end that the data isn't very reliable. Meanwhile, legit studies on this topic show that female leaders have a negative effect on corporate profits.

https://c4mb.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/121113-v4-the-five-studies-showing-that-increasing-female-representation-on-boards-leads-to-a-decline-in-corporate-performance.pdf

Lrellok · 2016-02-16T17:56:29+00:00

I drive truck. The industry standard is 2 weeks on, 2 days off. When you feel like getting me a normal 5 day work week, please, lemme know.

SchalaZeal01 · 2016-02-15T15:51:44+00:00

Anyone who wants to is more than free to offer it to their employees.

jamminnummeruno · 2016-02-15T23:31:17+00:00

As I always said, give men equal rights, and the wage gap disappears.

redditorriot · 2016-02-16T08:35:43+00:00

Anyone who thinks that the general push for fathers leave has anything to do with giving fathers rights is sorely mistaken.

Fathers leave is being pushed to (try to at least) benefit women.

omegaphallic · 2016-02-15T20:02:53+00:00

Payed Paternity leave and Maternity leave should be manadtory, with the exception of key critic jobs were one can not find a temp to fill in, such as elected office, being a soldier on the front lines of war, a doctor, and a few other key jobs.

The first months, even years of a childs life are their most impressionable and key to the parents nuerology as well.

2016-02-15T20:19:21+00:00

As we continue to favor women, men's lives will improve as well. Suuuuuure.

2016-02-15T21:02:36+00:00

Getting women to earn anything is just too fucking hard.

Jonesey505 · 2016-02-15T19:08:13+00:00

Ah so the plan is to turn women into men, and men into women. Sensible plan.

Title	The secret to getting more women to the top could be giving fathers more time off
Author	stormforce7916
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Date	February 15, 2016 2:12 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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