New rape survey shows college women think it's better to punish innocent men for rapes they didn't commit than to let a guilty man escape unpunished

Manakel93 · 2015-06-18T15:36:08+00:00

This should terrify absolutely everyone.

Natalant · 2015-06-18T18:21:55+00:00

"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer"

How is it that modern, western university students can have more backward ethical compasses than a guy 235 years dead. For so called academics, these people are sickeningly ignorant of their own civilisation's long struggle to achieve the kind of liberties they so casually disregard.

PierceHarlan · 2015-06-18T16:51:31+00:00

Friends, is there any wonder there's a "rape epidemic" on campus when so many of our daughters don't know that a nod of agreement constitutes consent? Seriously? Maybe THAT should have been my headline. There's so much wrong with this thing, I didn't know where to begin.

One thing is clear to me: the sexual grievance machine has really messed up our kids' heads with its rape hysteria. Congratulations, extremists--you've won. Our kids are officially brainwashed.

intensely_human · 2015-06-18T18:28:03+00:00

Of course they think that - as they aren't at risk of being falsely convicted of rape.

BruceCampbell123 · 2015-06-18T17:58:43+00:00

there is a disturbing absence of understanding about what constitutes "consent." As but one example, a dizzying 44 percent of women polled didn't think nodding in agreement constitutes consent. This lack of understanding likely skewed the results of the survey

Wow. We should be teaching women how to say "no". Apparently they don't know how. Are women these days such children that they have no situational awareness at all?

RockFourFour · 2015-06-18T15:11:42+00:00

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richardnorth · 2015-06-18T15:49:05+00:00

Yeah and they would be shrieking and throwing tantrums if women could also be subjected to this same treatment.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2015-06-18T22:54:33+00:00

It's interesting that both men and women favor the "no means no" system.

binrobinro · 2015-06-18T23:21:08+00:00

You lost me at "College women think".

historyismybitch · 2015-06-18T16:19:00+00:00

Yet the same people would be against the death penalty because there is always a chance of executing an innocent person. The classic "I would rather a guilty man go free than risk killing an innocent one."

Shawskank_Redemption · 2015-06-18T16:30:53+00:00

The feminuts won't apply this to other crime situations though, just "sexual assaults". #FeministHypocrisy #DoubleStandard

NoFuryLikeKristine · 2015-06-18T23:01:37+00:00

This is simply appalling.

Folsomdsf · 2015-06-19T01:15:29+00:00

This is also the reason I don't believe in the death penalty and other extremely life changing punishments on it's level(IE cutting off the hand of a thief). Sure it's all well and good when I have video evidence of someone brutally murdering 20 folks at a shopping mall, but what about the one where there's no evidence other than third party testimony?

There's no taking back the punishment, they're dead, their hand is gone, etc. I refuse to main and murder people when there's even a .0001% chance they didn't do it. I am the state, the state is the one prosecuting, I will not become a murderer for that 1 in 100 chance that he was innocent.

MonkeyCB · 2015-06-19T03:01:54+00:00

I hope they all have sons.

redzinno · 2015-06-19T11:17:32+00:00

Damn cold hearted kids we got coming up.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2015-06-18T19:00:57+00:00

What if women don't have a built-in sense of justice like (hopefully most) men do? Or what if it is so radically different, we wouldn't call it "justice"?

Palpetinus · 2015-06-18T20:38:00+00:00

The general idea of laws should be to rather let ten guilty people be free than imprison one person who never did anything wrong. I wonder if the whole idea of laws were always this messed up.

apullin · 2015-06-19T01:13:02+00:00

What is interesting about this is that this particular issue has an inversion from the common view on other crimes, and really the way our entire legal system is designed.

General, false negatives are vastly favored over false positives; people set evidenciary standards so that it is very unlikely for an innocent person to be convicted of, say, first degree murder. The standard are set so high that even people who possibly are guilty of that murder are not convicted, which would be a false negative occurrence.

So, false negatives are vastly favored over false positives, since the "cost" of a false positive, the conviction of an innocent person, is seen as abhorrent.

For this issue of rape, the inverse is true, exactly in the way that the article describes. People vastly favor the occurrence of false positives, because they see a false negative (an actual rapist not being convicted) being so incredibly costly.

This could likely be framed as both inhumane and un-American, in the sense of the American philosophy of the guarantees by the Bill of Rights and the premise of "innocent until proven guilty". (not un-American in the sense of against American traditional values or anything like that).

IBdeadshadow · 2015-06-19T08:47:49+00:00

This is why women shouldn't vote, hold public office, or serve on jury's.

Title	New rape survey shows college women think it's better to punish innocent men for rapes they didn't commit than to let a guilty man escape unpunished
Author	PierceHarlan
Upvotes	364
Comments	53
Date	June 18, 2015 2:46 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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