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Woman lied she was raped by soldiers to hide a threesome from her boyfriend

PierceHarlan

March 27, 2015
1105 upvotes
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Title Woman lied she was raped by soldiers to hide a threesome from her boyfriend
Author

PierceHarlan

Upvotes 1105
Comments 73
Date March 27, 2015 11:53 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/30hdg2/woman_lied_she_was_raped_by_soldiers_to_hide_a/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-lied-she-was-raped-by-soldiers-to-hide-a.984729
https://theredarchive.com/post/984729
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Comments

[–]StrikingEarth 202 points203 points204 points 11 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link

Does this dipshit realize what the hell could have happened to those two soldiers if they had been convicted? She deserves a hell of a lot more than 2 fucking years.

EDIT: What makes this worse than the "usual" false rape claims is that these guys wouldn't have been so lucky to go to any old prison and gotten raped by Jamal in the showers of cell block D. They would have gone to military prison (where everybody is a trained killer) and faced UCMJ penalties that are MUCH harsher than the law we live under. The military is held to a very different standard.

Source: Army vet.

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[–]Dreambeast 79 points80 points81 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is some wicked-level sarcasm.

[–]ShitLordXurious 40 points41 points42 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's how the hamster runs...

[+][deleted] -13 points-12 points-11 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Haven't heard hamster mentions since I unsubbed from r/redpill

edit: I guess the mensrights and redpill overlap is bigger than I thought. Redpill is based on sound social principles and fact, but I found the theme and tone to be consistently toxic.

[–]Lilliu 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good riddance.

[–]StrikingEarth 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right. Sorry for my moment of clarity, my public school education wore off for a second there. These soldiers should be sent to levinworth for having sex with that girl and making her cheat on her boyfriend.

[–]Dr_Bishop 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean what's to say she didn't have a wine cooler before hand and then they emotionally abused her. Pigs! They should get the death penalty!!!

[–]StrawRedditor 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really think false accusations of any kind (ESPECIALLY when specific people are targeted and named) need much more severe punishment.

I mean, if you actually think about that they are trying to do to someone.

How many years in jail do you think I'd get for trying to kidnap someone with plans to hold them for years upon years. I then throw a bunch of bigger guys down there with them so they can beat up and/or rape the people I kidnapped. Oh and because I kidnapped them, they'll lose their job. And that time away plus the fact that I'll have slandered them as rapists means most personal relationships they have with friends and family are going to be severely damaged as well.

My guess is a fuck ton more than 2 years. I really see no difference between doing that yourself or lying to get the government to do it for you... what matters is how it negatively affects people, which is exactly the same.

I really hate "making an example", because it shouldn't really ever go to that in the first place but... someone has to be made an example of somewhere so the message spreads to people: "DO NOT make shit up".

[–]SigmundFloyd76 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Imagine, if you will, what happens to the guys who's story doesn't make the media. These guys had their names cleared, not usually the case.

[–]blueoak9 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

and faced UCMJ penalties

They were British soldiers. Not subject to the UCMJ. But you point holds; they would have gone to a military prison.

[–]Boornidentity 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They would have been fucking crucified.

Source: British Soldier.

[–]irish711 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This took place in England. Do we know what their standards of punishment for military personnel is?

[–]NAFI_S 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Britain has one single military prision for all offenders

[–]bubbleheadbob2000 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After briefly perusing the Armed Forces Act of 2006, it APPEARS very similar to the UCMJ. A couple small differences (mostly in some of the technical differences and wording of Common Law vs. American law).

Based on the similarities, I would speculate that it would be handled similarly to US service members. I don't have any firsthand experience with their system though so I could very easily be wrong.

[–]FinleytheHuman 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True, busted down, pay gone, living in barracks for 45/45 all for nothing.

[–]bubbleheadbob2000 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That's more than a little hyperbole, friend. They most certainly would not have gone to a military detention facility and even if they did, the majority of the dudes in there are not "trained killers". It is mostly fuck ups, gang members, and thieves (usually supply guys) waiting for discharge.

They most certainly would have lost their careers. However, the probability is that: civilian law enforcement would pick them up, inform group staff (I think army/AF/Marines call it battalion) CDO, interrogated them, and then either done a CTO until they were cleared through investigation or arrested and charged. If they were turned over to Military Authority, the commander had the discretion to place them on pre-trial confinement or similar. If they were placed in custody by civilian authorities, a command representative would appear in court, JAG/CID (I think is the army/AF name for the lawyers), and depending on the outcome of trial they would be placed in civilian jail/prison and separated through administrative means. Most often for being UA/AWOL because they are in jail.

Neither option is a good one but the shit is bad enough. That kind of over dramatization and hyperbole is the same tactic the SJW's and the vocal fem's use. It really takes away a lot of credibility from your argument.

Edit: I don't really care about a downvote but why? Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, it's the truth. I've dealt with this multiple times while I was active duty.

Not very many people in the military are specially trained, steely eyed, hard asses. And the ones that are usually don't end up in the brig.

Hyperbole really weakens an argument is very much a crutch. I'm sorry but the OP was just plain wrong. That's not how murray justice works, that's not how military detention works, and it's certainly not a prison that is full of rapist, hard ass convicts.

Source: Senior Chief, ret.

[–]littlebigkitty -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would pay a substantial amount to go to military prison over a normal prison.

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points44 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

If a woman wants to hide it, how is lying better than not talking about it at all?

EDIT: Article says someone walked in and saw them, so this was her explanation.

[–]cuteman 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guilt, alibi, attention, revenge, etc.

There are all sorts of reasons. Boyfriend could have just as easily found out through a friend of a friend that she left with two guys and she lied to cover her own ass.

My personal experience witnessing the need for Men's Rights was in college. Girl cheated on her SO, felt guilty after, roommates found her, she allowed them to call the police and say she was raped, on and on, maybe more vindictive since the police did nothing but request an interview and try to entrap my friend on a phone call with the accuser, no arrest, but then later she made a written complaint to the University who held a hearing, judged him guilty, denied his appeal and now he has a dismissal on his transcript and he's barred from applying to any other state institutions.

People can have some pretty bananas logic and justification for doing the things they do. But what's worse is they don't give a fuck about ruined lives for seemingly insignificant things when weighed against someone's livelihood.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 72 points73 points74 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I had a previous career in law enforcement, and saw a very similar situation personally. I wasn't working the case file, but the agent who was was my roommate. So I'd already heard about this rape investigation.

Situation: Girl claims she was at a bar, got drunk and didn't know what was happening, found herself being raped by two guys at their apartment and then she was thrown out a 2nd story window still naked.

The story was really weird, so everyone at the office had heard about it and was following the investigation.

The next day I'm at my roommates desk waiting to go to lunch when this same girl is literally drug into the office by her mother...drug by her hair.

Mother says "TELL THEM!"...and the girl admits that she'd lied about the incident. She said she'd met the guys and agreed to go home with them and had a consensual 3-way. In the middle of it, one of the guys girlfriends showed up and the girl panicked, climbed out the window forgetting it was a 2nd floor, and fell into the bushes. One of hte guys threw her clothes out after her laughing and that had pissed her off.

So she filed a false rape report to "get them back".

[–]RancidTurnip 52 points53 points54 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow, go mom, one of those instances a slap on the wrist and sending her home might just be a harsher sentencing than jail.

[–]JesusofBorg 28 points29 points30 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Behold the power of a good mother.

[–]cuteman 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least her mother had some decency.

The getting drunk and having a threescore wasn't shameful. Them laughing was a bit rude. But she was the responsible party who took it from a disappointing event to criminality.

[–]xtremeradness 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I want to believe this but it sounds manufactured.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

if it were mundane, it wouldn't be interesting enough to tell a story about.

I could tell you a story about a guy who used to climb trees in the park and jerk off on couples who were making out. that wouldn't make the previous story any more credible, but it's kind of funny.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It sounds like you have some pretty cool stories. Mind if I hear some more? :D

[–]McFeely_Smackup 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to be on a 14 hour flight tomorrow, I'll type up a "best of". There's a couple of good ones.

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

>One of hte guys threw her clothes out after her laughing and that had pissed her off.

[–]SigmundFloyd76 36 points37 points38 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Good post as usual.

I'm of the opinion that when a person knowingly and falsely makes accusations against another, that the accuser be subject to whatever potential punishment the accused would have had to face. Especially in cases where it's purely about selfish interests; covering up a lie for example.

Somebody raped you? Ok, no prob, lets hear all about it and go arrest this person. But, if you are knowingly lying for your own interests, you're not going to just get a "mischief" charge, but a criminal offence with a penalty equal to rape.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The age old volunteering someone else in class to have the teacher make you answer the question instead

[–]QuintusVS 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Only this time you're almost ruining the lives of two hard working men that have risked their lives to allow you to live with all the advantages you take for granted, like your justice system that you're abusing.

[–]samtheredditman 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Plus they were kind enough to pork her. Did you see her picture?

[–]cuteman 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There should never be an arrest based purely on an accusation. I'd hope there would be at least some physical evidence before authorities passed that threshold.

[–]ametalshard -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It can be a very tough situation... just because there were no signs of "great struggle" doesn't mean the sex was consensual.

[–]cuteman 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And yet there should still be physical evidence. They must be more than an accusation.

[–]MoreDblRainbows -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think this makes sense. So if you lie about mureder, you get life in prison? That seems odd to me.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It gets better:

According to the main article, she blamed the entire experience in the fact that she used cocaine the night of the threesome, her first time ever. Which she attributes to her lack of judgement.

So why did she file the False rape charges? Well according to her, he BF is "violent and controlling" and she no choice but to lie.

And the sickest part part is? She got pregnant 6months prior to her sentencing knowing full well she was facing jail time. Playing the ultimate sympathy card.

Great human being this one.

[–]slideforlife 55 points56 points57 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

another case of women never lying about rape

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points 11 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

She's a stunner: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3013207/Woman-jailed-falsely-accusing-two-soldiers-trying-rape-ashamed-drunken-cocaine-fuelled-threesome.html

[–]Hiihtopipo 51 points52 points53 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

For some reason I always imagine people in sex stories to be attractive, this was a good reality check.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Those soldiers must have been in the field for too long.

[–]KingMong 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Hey man she's not a total right off, and anyway, how many women do you find that are up for a threescore? Can't let that chance walk

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't worry, she can't walk that fast anyway.

[–]usku 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well played. Have an upvote.

[–]samtheredditman 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

and anyway, how many women do you find that are up for a threescore? Can't let that chance walk

But it was a devil's threesome, not the good kind?

[–]KingMong -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Speak for yourself man, some people like both ;)

[–]mtersen 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

with that manly looking cow it might have well being a gay threesome

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[–]Capcom_fan_boy 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Come on man, really?

[–]Geebus-Crust 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hmm... Kinda looks like that pudgy kid from ICarly.

[–]zazhx 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gibbytheshow/images/b/bc/Normal_3x03_iSpeed_Date_073.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120806133042

[–]orr250mph 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i wish i could unsee it (X>//

[–]ShitLordXurious 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she'd been more attractive, the judge might have given her a lighter sentence...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think I just saw an ad for the new Star Wars movie... but I thought they killed Jabba?

[–]speedisavirus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I couldn't imagine looking at my buddy and saying "Why don't we take this one back". Just looked at the article and I don't think there is enough liquor in a bar for this one and I'm not proud all too proud of some of my past adventures.

[–]Pointless_arguments 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No but yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Regardless of nationality, soldiers gonna do soldier things.

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[–]dungone 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but who the hell got her pregnant right before her jail sentence?

[–]tapkap 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought it was odd she got jail time, considering that rarely seems to happen in America, then I saw this was in England. I'm proud to have y'all as one of our allies!

[–]blueoak9 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Nicole Richess, 20, is in jail today, and she'll be there for two and a half years because she told a rape lie that caused two innocent soldiers, aged 23 and 24, to be arrested."

I hope she remains on a register of liars and false accusers for a lifetime. Won't happen, I know, but it's something to work towards.

[–]speedisavirus 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a common thing with military members...falsely accused of rape and domestic violence in huge numbers. I've seen it happen. I have no idea why. The women if they are in the service get a massive scarlet letter for false accusations. The men that don't prove their innocence, if handled by the military, lose their livelihood.

People say rape/sexual assault is rampant in the military. I say false accusations and prostitution is more prevalent. When I was deployed there was an unused tent where a few women would hang out and give blowjobs or sex for money. I know at least one of them was married because she was married to someone in another unit but on my station back home. Imagine if they didn't think you paid enough and they claimed you raped them...

Either way I've never seen more whore sluts than when I was in the military and most of them were married, dating someone, or engaged. I had to refuse women literally throwing themselves at me that were dating or married to my coworkers. I don't know why there is this connection but its a real thing. Unless you plan on doing 20 years just stay single until you are done or you don't mind your chick fucking all your coworkers.

[–]Zerael 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Nicole Richess, 20, is in jail today, and she'll be there for two and a half years because she told a rape law that caused two innocent soldiers, aged 23 and 24, to be arrested.

She told a rape law? typo ? Intending to say rape lie instead? :)

Edit: it's fixed now, thanks Pierce ^^

[–]MoreDblRainbows 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Glad that an actual thorough investigation was done. And that justice was at least partially served.

Also this lady is a psychopath. I can understand (but obviously not support) false claims when under duress. But she marched her ass to the police station after driving them home and just volunteered a lie. Very sick

[–]sassage_flare 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"Your rights end, when mine begins"

[–]cuteman 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"Your rights end, when mine begins"

Your rights end, where my feelings begin

FTFY

[–]sassage_flare 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

that's a better fix, thanks man.

[–]cuteman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're welcome. I had to think about it when I saw it. Mine might be off a word or two from the original.

[–]FinleytheHuman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And that's just the sexual harassment

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i saw this and my brain just though.

"yeah, Pretty standard now a days"

[–]Catabisis -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like Al Sharpton's Tawana Brawley

[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That "article" was written like a middle school essay.

I'm not defending her at all, but that source is pretty bad.

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