A Voice for Men publishes interview celebrating Pick Up Artist Roosh V

DevilishRogue · 2015-02-17T11:29:13+00:00

Fuck you, OP. The difference between this side of the debate and the other side of the debate is that on this side we celebrate dissenting opinions rather than silence them. I may disagree with Roosh V or AVFM but just because I disagree with something doesn't mean it isn't worthy of reporting. Besides, whether you like it or not a lot of guys are interested in game/TRP type matters and this sort of stuff is interesting. If you don't like it, don't read it but stop complaining about the fact that other people want to as that puts you on the wrong side of history.

PerniciousOne · 2015-02-17T17:56:51+00:00

Regardless of peoples personal views, many young men out there still want to have sex with women.

Men's rights unfortunately does not help men, or teach them how to have increased self worth, that their desires for sex is normal, and that women do want to have sex with them.

Men's rights are to help with issues with men (in general) in society, not the individual man with interacting with individual women. If men do nothing to improve themselves they will essentially be invisible when it comes to the opposite sex.

Interviewing Roosh, is like interviewing Stalin, Hitler, or Putin. It will get eyeballs to view the interview. Because Roosh advocates for personal growth and says the things that work for him in attracting women, it helps men grow their own way to attract women if that is what they want.

Men's rights improve society to help ALL men.
Roosh / RedPill helps individual men, improve themselves so they can attract women.
PUA's do weird things to attract women for very short term relationships.

mhra1 · 2015-02-18T03:53:12+00:00

I have to wonder just how insecure the OP is here. AVFM has published stuff harshly critical of PUAs, including Roosh and others. Isn't it only fitting that some room be alotted for the man to speak his own peace? Are you threatened by that?

Watermelon_Salesman · 2015-02-17T20:52:57+00:00

The blatant grammar error in the very first phrase in the introduction annoys much more than the fact they made an interview with a guy who, like it or not, is still a reference for men online.

I think ROK is a stupid clickbait site, with mostly lazy content and very annoying ads, but its creator's influence is undeniable. It's obviously reportable stuff, and I see no point in discussing this further.

Astyanix · 2015-02-18T03:05:50+00:00

The point is that MRA's are supposed to be against game and roosh is a game promoter. Its as simple as that.

Game is about pandering to women - to get sex, according to gamers, to get revenge, according to me, since game doesn't get sex - and MRA is about men who refuse to pander to women.

The contrast couldn't be more stark.

Its great that guys want to to get sex by pandering to women - if that's what such men want - but it has nothing to do with an agenda that was about not pandering to women. Its the exact opposite.

But of course game isn't just about getting sex. Its about humiliating women and acting egotistically under the cover of that's what women secretly crave. There are a million ways to be confident and strong and fearless and demand respect without insulting women (negs) and without acting like an egotistic idiot (in fact egotistic idiots are insecure and perceived that way by others, not "alpha" - but gamers will never understand that simple fact. Never try and explain that to a gamer. Half the reason they want to be gamers is so they have a cover to be egotistical idiots after so long having been doormats and pushovers. The fate of the gamer is to eternally oscillate between being a doormat and an egotistical idiot, never realizing that both are sides of the same exact coin of insecurity)

MRA always had the potential to devolve into bitterness and hatred towards women and that is its potential point of convergence with game which we see in fact materializing right before our eyes.

Its sad that it happened, but it isn't surprising. AlekNovy, some sort of senior staffer at AVFM whose exact position I neither understand nor care to, was one of the best known and most vociferous opponents of game and would ruthlessly prune game comments from AVFM posts and do his best to purge the site of any element of game, has recently shown a disturbing trend towards mere bitterness and anger towards women (according to him women make it very hard for him to lay them by playing games and putting up obstacles), and one can only assume he is complicit in AVFMs recent turn towards game, or at least tolerant of it. The more so as he recently voiced strong support for AVFM when someone pointed out its recent downward trend.

kzwrp · 2015-02-17T20:18:43+00:00

The fact that you're way left of the center doesn't make him a far right wing ideologue.

He's far right to you because you're left of the based center.

guywithaccount · 2015-02-17T15:13:28+00:00

Now can we cut AVfM loose?

IgnatiusBSamson · 2015-02-17T16:42:01+00:00

CMON

TRPACC · 2015-02-17T21:50:11+00:00

They are prolly doing a click sharing deal.

everfresh7 · 2015-02-17T23:40:46+00:00

OP is attempting to shame a person he doesn't like into silence or altering their opinion?
Damn, someone is salty as fuck.

jdtroughton · 2015-02-17T17:00:33+00:00

On the basis of the interview alone, I see nothing to worry about unless one is concerned that men will be able to make their own sexual lives more fulfilling without sacrificing dignity or money or equality.

o9JOhY6iPn · 2015-02-17T16:57:22+00:00

Good to see various branches of the MRM bury their hatchets.

Sulla1982ad · 2015-02-18T18:28:05+00:00

Everyone is ignoring the fact that PUA/game is a fraud. It doesn't even work.

AVFM went down the toilet when they stabbed MGTOW in the back anyway.

MRSPArchiver · 2015-02-17T10:12:06+00:00

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j50wells · 2015-06-21T02:39:54+00:00

I really get tired of people trying to poop on pick up artists. If you don't have the courage to do it, then don't be a hater. Most of you have no clue how much courage it takes to approach a hot blonde in a bar surrounded by alpha males. It's akin to jumping in the ring with Tyson, and yet we will approach 20 women a week like this. I get really tired of these jealous white knights who try to protect women cause they think that somehow they'll get laid by it. Get a grip. Either pick up on the girl or get out of the way. And no, don't talk to her about your dumb-bells in the weight room, or your 4WD truck. No wonder you're pissed at us all the time.

Title	A Voice for Men publishes interview celebrating Pick Up Artist Roosh V
Author	Lauzon_
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Comments	76
Date	February 17, 2015 7:42 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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