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is this a looksmatch couple? or does she cringe everytime he initiates anything physical?

iliyb
March 13, 2023
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Title is this a looksmatch couple? or does she cringe everytime he initiates anything physical?
Author iliyb
Upvotes 10
Comments 70
Date March 13, 2023 11:05 AM UTC (2 weeks ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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Comments

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 10 points11 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

There’s too many factors involved that it’s hard to say.

For a lot of these women, it is just as simple as getting a green card to live in America instead, for others they genuinely have a white man fetish, for the rest it’s just a case of being treated far better by this guy than whatever options they had back in their home country.

She could fit into any of these categories. Maybe she genuinely is attracted to him right now because he’s the tallest richest guy she’s ever dated, but 2/5/10 years down the line after living In America, who knows.

In terms of looksmatched, they are not, she’s clearly the more attractive of the two.

[–]okkusenyan1 points [recovered] (12 children) | Copy Link

in terms of looksmatch, there's things people forget here.

by philippines standards, she would be unattractive just by her darker skin alone if nothing else, and outside of skin color, her facial features and body frame isn't spectacular either.

(they can be a bit self hating with the standards, they like girls and guys who look chinese/japanese/korean more attractive, something that beats even whites there.)

personally, she's more attractive by the virtue of not being old or bald, but otherwise she's a 5, not gross, but not ''muh kawaii waifu''

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 7 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Maybe she’s a 5 in the Philippines, but in the USA she’s basically a 7 based on nothing else except the fact she’s at a healthy weight.

Put her next to the average American woman and who will people say is more attractive?

[–]okkusenyan1 points [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

she's a 3 in philippines just for her skin color or facial features alone if nothing else, 5 is the more objective score i gave her, not asian standard.

young girls or guys in usa still have choices to pick from that aren't fat but even then, just being thin doesn't make someone beautiful objectively, and most guys aren't that desperate.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

most guys aren’t that desperate

That desperate for what, a young healthy woman? I don’t know any man who wouldn’t date her if given the chance.

[–]kurumon24 -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

not desperate enough that being thin alone would be 7 to most people without any other factor.

but either way, i'm merely saying she's ugly by asian beauty standards, in the country she's born, i'm not suggesting she looks gross, merely saying that she isn't a 7 or probably even 5 in the country she was born in. why don't you look up beauty standards in asia?

lol at the mod removinng my comments for merely saying she's not the ideal in the country's beuaty standards.

being dark skinned alone pegs you down in asia esp if you're a female, and her facial features are not really the ideal in asia either, this is honestly a reason many of the asian women outdate, because a lot of them are not up to par with their country's beauty standards which favors somewhat unrealistic looking people like this: https://stylesatlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/hot-chinese-actress-Li-Qin.jpg

again a flaw with jbw, you're not going to see this type of asian woman date white non-chad white guys commonly.

[–]rogueamazondrone 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

she's an actress. she doesn't need to marry a foreign man for a green card.

[–]kurumon24 -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

the reason i linked that actress was to show how a beautiful woman according to asian standards looks like, the woman here is not beautiful to asians which explains why she dates that ugly white guy.

[–]rogueamazondrone 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

i think the best looking people (unless they're degenerate or low quality in other areas) rarely ever date out regardless of their race. and that same thing applies to plenty of amwf couples too, yet jbw is still real for women.

[–]crypto_druid 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's very hateful.

Ever consider that he is a better man than you?

[–]kurumon24 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i'm not a man, it's just that people are overexeggrating the girl's beauty on purpose just to make their ''geomaxx'' cope seem more effective than it is

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You know one now.

She isn't my type

[–]No_Reflection_798 6 points7 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I watched this video, and that was the main thought going through my head. I was seriously weighing the man - mostly because I have plans on doing something similar to what he did.

But, I came to a couple conclusions:

  • We, through our Western eyes, see her a beautiful mostly because she's exotic. But, the same goes in reverse for how her society views him. Really, when you wipe away the Asian fetish, she's pretty plain looking. I think they match in the physical attractiveness department.
  • He was well-spoken, and referred the conversation to her multiple times. When that happened, she also was very well-spoken.
  • The physical touch between them seemed genuine.
  • They don't live in America. He moved with her back to the Philippines.

Love and lust is one thing, but building a long-term team requires certain other things. Sure, he is the main provider for both of them, and his American dollars go very far over there, but it is also upon her to make sure that they live within their means. It takes responsibility on both parts. It seemed like they both bring these important facets to their relationship - based on this short clip that we were given.

[–]Libah05 -2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

She doesn’t have a beautiful bone in her face. She is mid as hell

[–]kurumon24 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

people just don't know about asian beauty standards then overrate girls like this to validate their geomaxx cope, this is one reason i think the jbw effect is massively overrated.

[–]Libah05 -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Maybe one thing is for certain though. Both of these people are undesirable in their respective countries

[–]crypto_druid 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Projecting

[–]Libah05 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol if that makes you sleep at night

[–]kurumon24 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

tru

[–]MicrosoftOSX 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow someone actually comment responsibly ! Take my upvote

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

the only person who didn't have knee jerk bias response and said something nice and reasonable

[–]kurumon24 -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

asian beauty standards are particularly harsh.

[–]crypto_druid 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's all you had to say to the dismantling of your premise?

[–]Nihi1986 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not a looksmatch couple, though it might be a genuine couple.

The way I see it, she's glad she found him and feels comfortable around him, but she would've never dated him if he was as poor as she was and from her same country, there are other factors here. Many women date up economically speaking and are happy enough with that. In the end, it's their decission and their lives, if it makes both happy then it's fine. Is it 'love', though? Perhaps to an extent it is, considering that a lot of women who claim to love their boyfriends are also not particularly physically attracted to them🤷 this is being optimistic though, there's a good chance she will cheat on him or dump him if she becomes finantially independent or he goes broke...

[–]Occams_clipper 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Let me guess, you think she's head and shoulders above in looks? I will say she's slightly better than him when you consider the totality of their looks (not just focus on face and hair), and take into account that she's probably looksmaxxed more than him.

The funniest part of posts like these is that if he had not called himself a passportbro, bluepillers would use couples like these to 'prove' that women are less shallow than men, or that ugly guys who complain about the dating market are just lazy and they too can have this, or something to that effect. They certainly wouldn't be claiming that his touch makes her cringe or whatever.

In short, ugly male-pretty female couples are great if the guy is perceived to have put in a lot of romantic effort. If he's perceived as someone who bypassed that effort with money or circumstances, then suddenly he's a 'predator' and any sex they have is like torture for her.

[–]iliyb[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's a sub 5 male of course it's unnatural for her to let him impregnate her. It's a win for him and loss for her and her future offspring.

[–]LIGMAMALEINCBlackPill 6 points7 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

If you watch their videos she's very touchy feely and seems genuinely into him. And why not? He's tall (to her and relative to other men in the Philippines), he's got a good frame and appears to be gymmaxxed that plus the power of JWB and it is absolutely conceivable that this woman is genuinely attracted to him.

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is anybody personally responsible for their own achievements?

[–]iliyb[S] -4 points-3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

He's a 4 at best

[–]Electronic_Leave_477 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

He's 5-7 to her.

[–]iliyb[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I thought this was a blackpill sub we're denying reality now?

[–]Electronic_Leave_477 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're to blackpill.

[–]Last-Post20851 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

That guy is a 6 easy. Girls love men with sleeve tattoos. Looks like he can grow a beard. He's also white. Yeah he's bald but it seems to suit him. He doesn't look scrawny.

You need to touch grass if you don't think he is above average

[–]iliyb[S] -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That guy is a 6 easy.

Nope, he's bald.

[–]kurumon24 -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

he's ugly and she's only slightly abover her, she would be ugly by asian beauty standards.

[–]hutavan 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Height and body size is more important for men than face and hair. He seems quite a bit bigger than her in every way and his face is passable so it's no surprise she is genuinely attracted to him. It's a no-brainer, the only one confused here is you.

[–]kurumon24 -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

face and hair is more important for males too

but what you guys don't get is that the girl is plain or ugly by asian cultural beauty standards, that's why she dates him at all.

[–]NotARussianBot1984 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya cuz he's older, and with that time he built a career to pay to live overseas.

But for a older man, he's better than a 4. He should lean out a bit and shave his head but he's very fit.

[–]LainselBluePill 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

BASED BALDCLEL EATING GOOD

[–]kurumon24 -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

she's 5/10 tbh

[–]LainselBluePill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If he was in America, his only option would be obese women and single mothers.

[–]kurumon24 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

nah, you see ugly oofy doofies and ugly thugmaxxers with white women in usa too.

still, my point is that why those guys pretend they are a 8/10 to overexeggrate geomaxxing?

[–]Last-Post20851 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Looksmatched 100%

[–]iliyb[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not even a little

[–]pikecat -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is not a pretty girl. She's going to be quite bad looking in 10 years.

[–]Impossible-Bank-1697 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be for real. She have a head full of long hair and look at him 😂

[–]SoldierExcelsior 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They look about average most guys aren't walking around looking like Thor...He looks a bit like Jason Statham...

[–]M3taBuster 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say they are more or less looksmatched. They are both non-fat and have average looking faces that are neither particularly gorgeous nor ugly. His hair loss obviously works against him, but the fact that he seems significantly taller than her and he is clearly quite physically fit, while she just has a normal body type that's not particularly fit or overtly "sexy" is enough to offset that, imo.

[–]BRightIdeas025 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not at all. Ever noticed how these guys who go to Asia are flawed in some way. Either old or ugly or both but never young and attractive

[–]Electronic_Leave_477 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Either old or ugly or both but never young and attractive

Yeah literally the reason why they go over seas.

[–]kurumon24 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

she's also plain looking though, idk why you guys act like she's 8/10.

also, asian beauty standards are quite harsh and she doesn't fit them, you won't see an idol looking asian girl dating a non-asian guy very often

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

all types of people go to asia.

people go to teach, to learn the language, to work remotely and to retire etc.

The bald, ugly sexpats can be found congregating in the seedy tourist areas, go to other expat districts and you will find regular people

[–]okkusenyan -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

he's uglier but she's also ugly by philippines beau standard+ average in general objective beauty standard

[–]iliyb[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Average? Sure. Ugly? Nope.

[–]kurumon24 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

average in america or the west, but ugly in asia due to their beauty standards.

[–]AssistTemporary8422 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy would look better if he shaved it all off and grew a beard but maybe she doesn't like that. I'd rate him as a 6 bc he is fit (lower if he is short). She is a 7-8. Not quite a looksmatch but close enough that it could work.

[–]l00ks-p1lled -2 points-1 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Depends how much she has explored her sexuality imo, if she hasn't then it's likely that she doesn't cringe and somewhat enjoys sex, not as much as she would with Chad tho.

Unless, the stars aligned and she actually consider him physically attractive, in this case she feels genuine lust for him.

[–]DeepHouseDJ007 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Bro I’m not trying to be insulting so no offense, but this comment kinda makes you sound like an incel.

There’s no such thing as Chad, there’s mostly average and slightly above average guys who are 1. confident because they feel good about themselves, their appearance / their body and 2: who have good social skills. Those are the two things you need to be good at seduction.

I’m 5’6, with a good body and a slightly above average face. My main assets are my confidence, my athletic body, and my intelligence. So def not a “Chad”, yet I have a very good dating / sex life and have been doing so since high school when I lost my virginity to a girl two years older than me.

Most of my friends and fraternity brothers are also relatively short (5’6-5’7) and aren’t all sculpted like Greek gods, yet they almost all do very well with women as well.

Seduction happens with subtle non verbal cues like looks, smiles, open / inviting body language, etc. A woman who wants to be approached will usually let you know she’s open to talking with a look and a smile. It’s up to us guys to understand these cues to be good at flirting.

Many guys don’t understand that if a dude hasn’t received the signals that tell him a woman is into him approaching her before he do it, 99% of the time it means she’s not interested in talking to him but he missed or ignored the signals.

[–]crypto_druid 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's because it's so simple that they will never believe you.

[–]too_lazy_to_register 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

The IOI's are a common topic in incel communities. We definitely know about them. We see them all the time, when women look at the attractive people.

You don't seem to understand an even simpler thing. What would you do if no one even gave you those signals? As I see it, there's only two ways: either wait for the one who will show interest in you (which may never happen), or start asking out the girls who are 99% not interested, hoping to meet the 1%. And since both of those ways are quite often shunned by the others, it's a lose-lose situation.

[–]DeepHouseDJ007 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean “if no one gave you those signals”? Every time you cross paths with a woman or lock eyes from across the bar women give you signals, whether those signals show interest and openness to being approached or whether they show repulsion and lack of interest. But one way or the other you’re getting signals if you’re around women.

[–]too_lazy_to_register 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean "no woman gave you the signals she's interested, every woman you meet is repulsed by you or at least not interested at all".

[–]DeepHouseDJ007 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That’s what I mean, if a guy can see a woman sending him signals she’s not interested in being approached and talking, why would he approach her expecting anything other than rejection?

[–]too_lazy_to_register 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't do that, but I can see two usual reasons. First, some guys are ready to face a lot of rejections if that can bring them a bit of success. Second, they can believe a lie that's constantly told in anti-incel subs - "you just don't notice that she's interested, always take your shot". Of course, it doesn't happen to the guys who are successful with women, but lack of success sometimes makes people desperate.

[–]DeepHouseDJ007 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see your point. I guess my outlook is a little different because I’ve always had a certain ease when it comes to seduction / dating and I actually get approached by women so I’ve never felt that desperation.

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Wow, you know this girls mind whom you've never met and watched a minute on YouTube?

Can you teach me how to do that ?

[–]l00ks-p1lled 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I might as well be wrong for this particular woman but you know that what I wrote still has statistical value.

Humans are mostly the same on certain basic aspects

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Humans are incredibly complex and diverse in mind.

It's dangerous thinking to try to wrap everything into a binary. You'll miss out on the nuance of human existence and find it difficult to forge meaningful kinship with fellow human beings

[–]l00ks-p1lled 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

it's not dangerous, it's depressing. But what do we have to do, delude us into thinking that low value and high value people don't exist or that the difference is minimal? Besides, you can think whatever you like about yourself and other people, it's not going to make you physically obtain what you want if you don't have what it takes, at best you can delude yourself thinking you don't need material things to be happy.

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't have the answers to your personal problems. But deluding yourself that you have mind reading abilities and assuming that people are simple probably isn't going to be a solution.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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