~ archived since 2018 ~

Some unfortunate statistics about Racial Preferences in online dating:

August 5, 2022
9 upvotes
post image

TheRedArchive is an archive of Red Pill content, including various subreddits and blogs. This post has been archived from the subreddit /r/AllPillDebate.

/r/AllPillDebate archive

Download the post

Want to save the post for offline use on your device? Choose one of the download options below:

Post Information
Title Some unfortunate statistics about Racial Preferences in online dating:
Author Antisocial_Nihilist
Upvotes 9
Comments 59
Date August 5, 2022 9:44 AM UTC (3 months ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/AllPillDebate/some-unfortunate-statistics-about-racial.1139707
https://theredarchive.com/post/1139707
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/wgr64a/some_unfortunate_statistics_about_racial/
Comments

[–]BumblingBeta 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm white. Black women and asian women (far east asian, not indian asian) have by far been the most interested in me on dating platforms. Even though I live in a country where the black population is less than 5%, half the dates I've been on from online dating have been black women. Interestingly all the dates I went on with black women, all of them messaged me first.

White women are not interested in me. They never message me first and they put in the least effort in any responses. On dates, white women were the laziest and least friendly towards me.

I can see my future wife being either black or asian. These are the women who are most into me, both on online dating and real life.

That's my anecdotal experience.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

What do you look like and are you non nt?

[–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hard to say without posting a photo. I look kind of young. I do work out but that's never made a difference.

Non-neurotypical? Yes I think I am.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Non nt is a big detrimental, is there a specific reason you think white women don't liked you?

[–]BumblingBeta 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure. I guess I am what they call "low value"? It's just something I've observed through my life. The women who have been interested in me have been black and asian women.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You found your market, I truly believe every guy has a market where he has the best options.. Go where you're appreciated and not where you're tolerated.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen this sort of data before in the black-pill community.

As an Asian male living in the west, it was disheartening to see, but also I knew it to be true deep down.

Asian men are the least desirable to date.

Black women are the least desirable to date.

White men are the most desirable to date.

White women are the most desirable to date. Follow by a close 2nd for Latinos.

This is also one of the reasons I found my wife by flying to Asia. (out of many)

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

No surprises there.

The top line of the top table is most interesting.

Is there a Fig2,3,4 etc?

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill[S] 9 points10 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

One of the most interesting statistics is that of the Asian women surveyed 39.96% of them exclude Asian men as potential dating partners.

That is pretty astonishing...

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow! Didn’t spot that one.

Interesting…

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Asian women surveyed 39.96% of them exclude Asian men as potential dating partners.

That is pretty astonishing...

That is not surprising.

Main reason is mother -in-law who loves to interfere the relationship or marriage.

Also,it is ingrained in Asian people mind that "Faired skin is aligned to wealth or high status and darked-skin is aligned to lower status and is not considered in beauty standard".

[–]jasonology09 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

If you were Asian or grew up around them, that number wouldn't be surprising at all. I'm actually surprised it wasn't higher.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I lived in Japan for a few years actually and seen "white fever" with my own eyes. There is even a nickname for them called "Gaijin Hunters (外人ハンタ)"

But honestly I thought the number would be around 15% or so. Not literally 40% of women who outright refuse to date men of thier own race and culture.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is specifically related to Asian women who live in USA.

The 40% stats comes from the 73% of Asian women who have a racial preference, and ignores the other 27% of Asian women who don’t.

So add it all together, the actual % of Asia women who dismiss Asian men is 26% in total.

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are male gaijin hunters in japan too to be perfectly fair

It's also because asian men have low status or negative stereotypes in usa due to media and cultural differences, this is slowly going away but the damage is done anyway

[–]TheOffice_Account 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not literally 40% of women

Because it is not 40% of women. It is 40% of women who expressed a racial preference on Yahoo Personals (so, the 1990s? early 2000s?).

[–]Caring_Cactus 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep in mind this survey was only done in the largest US cities. I don't think it's applicable for other countries

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here.I was like" why it is low"

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

People who say Asian women have a thing for white men keep getting shot down in comments, then resurrected by statistics lol

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There really is no denying it...

I mentioned before I lived in Japan for 3 years and did get a chance to observe thier dating culture with my own eyes. "White fever" is definitely a thing amongst women there. No denying it.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't deny it, they just try to shut you up by accusing you of muhsoggykneez

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a thing among japanese men to a lesser extent

[–]MAGA-Latino 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The save the men for when they want a BB.

[–]BoogersAndSugar 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you're an East Indian or Middle Eastern guy, you're pretty much fucked :(. I'm not at all surprised at how many such guys hang out on incel forums, subs, etc. Literally 25-30% of guys in those places are Indian or Middle Eastern - VASTLY disproportionate to the general population!!

I wonder how much this has to do with their reputation, though. Indians are unfairly labeled as "dirty street shitters" and "scammers", and middle easterners are "the enemy" in the West. Religious differences likely play a role, too. She's atheist or christian, and he's a muslim.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Arab guys date out a lot in europe

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women are even more racist than men. Go figure. Yet it's the evil racist white man that is the cause of all the ills of society right?

These stats are so true. I've been in three LTRs (8+ month relationships) and they were all women of colour. Indian from India (lived here in Canada for 2 years before we dated), Indo-Guyanese and Chinese. My Indo-Guyanese ex was my favourite. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ8pMW7X4AAprBc?format=jpg

And I hooked up with a Filipina and I've been flirting with Filipinas who live abroad on dating apps and Whatsapp.

During escortcelling, I've also ventured outside my race multiple times. Indian - 2x Chinese/Thai - 1x Mestiza Latina - 1x Filipina - 1x

I am thinking about getting a 6 month tourist visa in the Philippines or Thailand in October/November and SEAmaxxing during the Canadian fall/winter. While I go back to Canada in the spring and live in Canada during the spring and summer. And the plan is for me to earn Canadian dollars day trading from my laptop/phone in the Philippines and pay my taxes in Canada. And then open a bank account in the Philippines and wire Canadian dollars to that bank account whenever I need to spend money locally. Or trade Canadian dollars for bitcoin and then bitcoin for Filipino pesos.

So how can I be a racist when I have so much love for South Asian, East Asian, South-East Asian and mixed indigenuous latina women? I've been called a colonizer, fetishist, everything under the sun. Yet racist white bitches don't want no black/Indian/Asian/Middle-Eastern dick. While I fuck the world. I'm missing a black chick to my bucket list. I'd fuck a hot black chick like Rhianna or Brandi Rhodes.

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Black men white women coupling is very common actually, so is arab men and white women (at least in europe)

Asian men and white women is less common, but it is growing, especially in south korea.

The only thing white men mix with is asian women due to ''muh feminism bad' ' sentiment and asian men not being as mateguarding as arab men

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go where you're appreciated, my guy.

[–]WOPR-19831 points [recovered] (15 children) | Copy Link

Hmm. White women are over twice as racist as white men.

Explains the Karen racial meltdown situation...

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

White women do race mix more than white men though, black men and white women is a global meme at this point.

[–]WOPR-19831 points [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

The chart shows white women are 2x more likely to pursue only white men.

Memes don't represent statistics.

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Actual interracial marriage stats show black men and white women more common than the reverse, pretty much in every country

[–]WOPR-19831 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

So what? Twice as many women than men STILL won't be part of an inter-racial marriage.

White women like black men more than white men like black women. That is probably true. And I think white men like Asian women more than white women like Asian men.

You're trying to spin this like women are more racially open minded than men, and they simply are not.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

They absolutely do not. White men are far more open to interrracial relationships than white women and the data shows this.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's literally only because of seamaxxing, anything else with women mix more

Look at actual intermarriage stats ot even literally just walk outside and observe couples

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Most people do indeed date their own race, this can be fixed by the woman or the man moving to their own country

[–]IHateNormis 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Not Asian females

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Asian females in usa are a tiny percentage of asian women tbh, in latam and even europe, people tell me wmaf isn't as much of a meme

And even then, stats show that outmarriage among asians in usa is decreasing albeit still high(from %33 to %29)

Either way an asian dude who struggles will automatically get better results if he moves to an asian country, might even find a white girl into asians there if he's into that shit

[–]IHateNormis 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Asian females are the largest group of females in the world due to population

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm saying usa is a tiny sample of them, usa is the only place where wmaf is a meme tier popular thing.

In actual east asia, europe and latam, asians date asians the most

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People often link race with culture. I wonder if these women are excluding Asian/ middle eastern men because they associate them with being hyper conservative.

[–]VasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

Why is this unfortunate? People like what they like. Ex. I am never going to be attracted to fat women, no matter how great their personality is. Sorry, not sorry.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill[S] 2 points3 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

If you're an Asian man or a Black woman, this information is pretty unfortunate.

I'm aware people like what they like. But that doesn't make being undesirable by the vast majority of people hurt any less.

[–]Protocol_Apollo 1 point2 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Asian men are typically unattractive because they act and look like Asian stereotypes. Unfashionable, wearing dorky clothes and glasses, don’t know how to speak to women etc.

Black women are typically unattractive because they’re fatter and more masculine acting than average.

All I’m saying is I haven’t seen any jacked, fashionable Asian dude who knows game complaining.

Nor have I seen any slim, feminine acting black woman complaining.

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

This is pretty ironic because japanese and korean men are stereotyped to be pretty fashionable and good with skincare, acccording to my friends who had boyfriends from these countries natives

I guess it's rarer for chinese men tho.

[–]Protocol_Apollo 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

japanese and korean men are stereotyped to be pretty fashionable and good with skincare,

This is very recent though tbh. With the rise of k pop and Asian skincare.

But notice how even your examples aren’t exactly the first bastions of masculinity.

Which brings back to my original point. Asian men aren’t stereotypically masculine.

[–]SunshineSundress 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

All I’m saying is I haven’t seen any jacked, fashionable Asian dude who knows game complaining.

Exactly. An Asian guy who was in my uber-dorky Asian Catholic Sunday School did not get many women back in the day. Now he’s super buff, got a few tattoos, permed his hair to get that “e-boy” look (not my taste, but lots of women in their early to mid-twenties like this), and dresses on-trend. He got TikTok famous-ish for making corny anime-themed thirst traps and now I see a lot of hot ladies of all races in his instagram comments. I’ve seen more than a few IG models there to boot, so who KNOWS what’s going on in his DMs.

He usually dates white women or latinas. No, he does not complain about not getting women’s attention because he’s an Asian man. He’s also 5’6, for all the guys who say “it’s over” because they’re short and Asian. He also doesn’t whine about Asian women like me who are open to dating out of their race, because surprise surprise, when he can too it’s no longer a problem 😂

[–]Protocol_Apollo -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What people don’t understand is the path is the same regardless.

If you’re a 5’4 Asian dude, you are going to need to do the same thing as a 6’2 white dude. Ie lift weights, learn game, groom, and get some fashion etc.

If you’re a 6’2 black woman, you’re going to need to do the same thing as a 5’5 white woman. Ie not get fat, work on femininity, having a personality, grooming etc.

But judging from OPs history and even username, I’m not sure they will get it.

It sucks for them especially if they’re Asian or whatever. Nobody expects a well groomed buff Asian dude. Those fuckers stick out since their counterparts are so far removed from them.

One could even argue being a buff asian dude> being a buff white dude as the former sticks out more and is rarer than the latter.

Not many expect a buff well groomed Asian dude.

[–]VasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, and? Cry about it. Then do what 90% of guys have to do, which is build themselves into better men. Life isn't fair. Access to sexy people isn't a right. Either you are sexy yourself or you need to bring value. As a man, you need to understand that women are human beings and men are human doings. It is how it is.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with the sentiment that men should do their best to be desirable.

I would note, many western women aren't worth dating either. But there's a larger prevailing sentiment that it's the man's job to become desirable and not a woman's.

I think I'm a decent quality man, but I haven't found a decent quality women in the west. So I went overseas to find a traditional women to marry. (The very few quality women I've met were already taken.)

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]VasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What I find more disturbing is the perceived necessity to "Debias Desire." You cannot negotiate attraction. And yet the SJW crowd wants to run experiments on you. Well not all of you, more on that in a moment (N.B. Italics are direct quotes from the linked piece.)

Debiasing Desire: Addressing Bias & Discrimination on Intimate Platforms

Evidently, letting people choose what they want is "bad" because they won't "choose right" - although only some biases are bad, so short guys won't benefit nor middle-aged guys who want 18 year olds.

"OKCupid, for instance, ran a series of experiments in which users were unwittingly) presented with "bad" matches (according to the site’s algorithms) but told that they were highly compatible. The site found that the power of suggestion had a real effect on user behavior: users who were predicted to be incompatible had more successful interactions when they were told by the platform that they were compatible."

So basically OKCupid LIED to people and hoped for the best. And how many "more successful interactions" were there? That would seem to something that could (a) be quantified and (b) is important to disclose (let alone the misleading matching.)

"...its results suggest that intentional experimentation with matching algorithm design can not only help users explore their preferences, but may be necessary in order to determine the efficacy of these tools and to discover unexpected good matches."

Yes so basically "We as a for-profit business who you are paying to give you a service you want have to intentionally give you things you don't want so that we can figure out how to manipulate you better."

Read on:

"Resistance to anti-bias interventions that rest on a strict notion of autonomy assumes that platforms know and understand how to satisfy users’ true preferences...In contrast, limiting the ease with which users can act on certain preferences in the interest of reducing bias rests on the belief that preferences are never completely determined in advance. No user is a completely independent agent, with perfect self-knowledge to act in ways that accord with their pre-established preferences. Rather, preferences take shape and evolve in the process of navigating these platforms."

IOW, "Yes, Stan, we know you like biological women, but really, isn't that a bit homophobic/transphobic? You need to try some dick, Stan."

None for me, thanks.

Ofc, not everybody is to be subject to manipulation:

"While it may strike us as normatively acceptable to encourage intimate platform users to be open to more diverse potential partners, we might find some categories more palatable for such intervention than others. For example, it might seem inappropriate to suggest that a Jewish user seeking other Jewish people "expand her horizons" past those preferences, which might be based on a number of religious and cultural considerations. Similarly, a platform suggesting that a gay user "consider" dating someone of a different gender would likely strike us as problematic."

Well, wait a minute. Why is it "inappropriate" not to suggest that a Jewish woman "taste the rainbow" because muh "CULTURAL REASONS!" but it's ok to try do to that to a white woman who wants her future kids to look like her? And why must Steve the Gay Guy not be given the chance to sample some sushi? Now, gentle reader, I would not want that for Steve or the aforementioned Jewish lady. Let them choose as they wish. But that should apply to ALL users.

The simple fact is that we want what we want. Reality is ugly around the margins. It's a bit racist, a bit sexist, a bit "heightist" and very "lookist" (or whatever). The thing to do is to find the pool of partners that are into you and select dates/mates from that pool. 90% of us are born, live, and die outside of the top 10%. You can work on what you have, but complaining about it won't help.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

The race pill is the most accurate pill in my opinion. Your race and location in the overwhelming majority of situations will decide your dating succes. It doesn't mean that if you are an ethnic guy your life is over but you will needto often work 3 times as hard as a white guy to get the sane results.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

It honestly depends a lot on your subculture and this is kind of changing

Black guys as long as they have a college degree are in high demand

Asian guys as long as they aren't fat or skinnyfat and kinda kpoppish/e-boyish hair are high in demand among gen z

Indian... doesn't really have a niche but neither does their women outdate.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Black guys as long as they have a college degree are in high demand

As a black man with a J.D in law and a B.A in History I can tell you this certainly isn't the case.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you're just ugly or mentalcel? I mean i don't live in an area with a lot of black population but my friend who lives in an area with high population sees black men dating out a lot, more than black women although it's getting more common for sure

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

🤭I don't have an issue getting women but getting a degree didn't increase my options woth black women. Having a degree doesn't necessarily make you high value to black women. Most black women have degrees, they are the most educated group in America, you are bringing sand to the beach. Having swag amd status are way more important than having money or degree.

I mean i don't live in an area with a lot of black population but my friend who lives in an area with high population sees black men dating out a lot, more than black women although it's getting more common for sure

So basically you don't know what you're talking about amd your using someone else's anecdotal experience as a fact. Also, I never said black men don't date out more than black women. I said that white men date and marry out more than white women, which statistics backup my claim.

[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn’t news, but the same size is pretty small.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2022. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter