What would not having a "defeatist mindset" actually change if we are being honest?

kukkle1111 · 2023-08-01T05:04:19+00:00

Let's say I change my outlook on life tomorrow and adopt a positive mindset what changes?

Nothing.

This is vaginal nonsense women tell men to gaslight them into believing it’s their personality that’s the problem instead of addressing the actual problem: Women are shallow and most men are ugly.

NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-08-01T03:38:34+00:00

My defeatist mindset was the best thing I ever done in my life.

I gave up. I'm done. No more approaching, no more day game, no more studying trp, no more lifting for women.

I have accepted western women don't want me.

So....I'm moving to Philippines when I retire boys. I give up XD

EnormousPurpleGarden · 2023-08-01T08:57:38+00:00

Not having a defeatist attitude would increase our chance of success from 1.0 × 10⁻³⁰% to 1.1 × 10⁻³⁰%.

Throw_AwayDiscussion · 2023-08-01T03:44:40+00:00

Um sweety, we need to unpack this. Clearly you need to work on your personality, I recommended you to look outside and see all the women dating short ugly men which means the blackpill doesn't exist obviously. Here's what I recommended you do, get a haircut while lifting weights in the shower and limb lengthening surgery at the same time! Make sure to give out them good vibes because women love good vibes and tell Jokes. Women LOVE humor! Stop with this Doomer Mindset because it's all in your head and if you pass short king energy you'll become attractive to all women.

SilentFroggy · 2023-08-01T01:58:23+00:00

You’ll get to a point where you date a single mother. I mean yeah she’s a single mother, but at least you’re dating someone JFL

Ok-Bell3376 · 2023-08-01T07:38:33+00:00

The only benefit would be that you would be willing to try things, which increases your chances

TetsuoTamayaka · 2023-08-01T11:34:22+00:00

If I change my mindset will I be able to beat Jon Jones? No. There you go

OpticalEpilepsy · 2023-08-01T02:32:10+00:00

What makes you say you are a 3/10?

AlexAlbarn · 2023-08-01T03:17:57+00:00

Changing mindset doesn’t change outcome. I remember reading this one study where a few colleges tried pushing the growth mindset on struggling students but it didn’t actually lead to an increase in academic performance

blebbyroo · 2023-08-01T01:58:25+00:00

The way you feel about life in general, then the way you interact with others and the way you feel about yourself and then eventually the way others interact with you

uselessloner123 · 2023-08-01T02:42:58+00:00

It’s possible that you miss the signs of a woman who is actually interested in you.

Black pill in itself is directionally correct but you need to be careful not to apply it to all women.

What I mean by this is if you see a women potentially interested in you at say a concert the blackpill mind might think “she’s not really interested in me she took a dare” or “she’s looking for the betabux now after being with Chad” or “She’s drunk or high and doesn’t know what she’s thinking” instead of actually giving her a chance, approaching her and see if she likes you. Even 80/20 implies that 20% of women are sexually attracted to men who don’t fit the Chad mold. Obviously such women are usually in niche settings or in LTR’s already so you might not ever meet such women. But you might one day and if you had a pure defeatist mentality you’d miss it

No-Vermicelli1103 · 2023-08-01T02:37:00+00:00

Deshae frost 5’5/6 he get hoes

RopeorDope1 · 2023-08-01T02:09:17+00:00

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win

“THE PESSIMIST SEES DIFFICULTY IN EVERY OPPORTUNITY. THE OPTIMIST SEES THE OPPORTUNITY IN EVERY DIFFICULTY.” — WINSTON CHURCHILL

The main difference between an optimist and defeatist is what happens when an opportunity arrives. For the defeatist, they wouldn't even be aware of such a thing. Meanwhile, for an optimist, they are aware that opportunities can always happen. They may not be guaranteed, and they may not be plentiful, but there's a chance for them.

None of us have a crystal ball to see what the future holds. Between the two approaches, one has at least a 1% chance while the other has none.

Safinated · 2023-08-01T16:21:56+00:00

Because you might actually go out and do stuff

treacherCollin · 2023-08-01T16:57:36+00:00

I mean, it would give you more enjoyment in life.

I constantly try to get out of this defeatist mindset, and usually I can’t. The moments I feel some optimism tho are really nice, and almost like taking a drug.

It feels good to be happy, and whike at the end of the day much of our worth is determined by how women view us and it can be hard to be happy whike isolated sometimes, it makes much more sense to try and make the best of it rather than withering away.

If you wither away you just let these hypergamous whores win

SoulBadguy0408 · 2023-08-01T17:22:04+00:00

I want to believe if you lived your best life people would see that and want to be around you but I don't think that those who are in a defeatist mindset were born into that so idk how well it would work out to go back to where they were to begin with

shadowcat211 · 2023-08-01T18:55:32+00:00

Nothing. It's not that I believe that nothing will work out. It's that I know that nothing ever works out.

Hubris1998 · 2023-08-01T21:59:06+00:00

BS. I'm over 6' with decent looks, decent conversation skills, and a decent-sized dick. It only gets you so far. They can smell the insecurity, the loneliness, the desperation, the lack of options... and they don't want anything to do with it. But I don't let that shit define who I am as a human being. Those changes are for your own benefit, not theirs!

What would not having a "defeatist mindset" actually change if we are being honest?

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Title	What would not having a "defeatist mindset" actually change if we are being honest?
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