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[–]Parapraxium 120 points121 points122 points 4 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link
"Men as a system" ????? Grass touching urgently required
[–]punkerthanpunk 38 points39 points40 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
reasoning urgently required basically
[–]jamabalayaman 55 points56 points57 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Feminists see men as some sort of oppressive hive mind that only exists to make women's lives harder - that's what she means by "men as a system" haha.
[–]No-Cat-2597 15 points16 points17 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
put it that way, and it puts feminist rhetoric into perspective. and you realize how these people probably should go get therapy instead of creating a hate philosophy.
that’s how nazism works too. they have to fabricate some kind of enemy that’s in some collective conspiracy to actively make their lives harder when in reality most people are just people trying to go about their day. It’s like how Nazis are obsessed with the jews. It’s bigoted and mentally ill.
[–]Atreigas 36 points37 points38 points 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If that were true, you'd be calling it the patriarchy instead of the demographic.
But no, its men as a whole.
Really, even at the best case scenario its malicious language and word choice from them.
[–]Glad-Way-637 34 points35 points36 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When people say "the patriarchy" they mean the demographic. Don't give these people too much credit, lmao.
[–]Atreigas 15 points16 points17 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. They use it interchangibly. If it was just "the patriarchy" I wouldnt have nearly the same issue because that word is at least generally aimed at the top.
[–]BhryaenDagger 31 points32 points33 points 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Feminist: “You see, if I simply recontextualize my bigoted hatred, it’s OK.”
But I don’t get how a feminist contrived that rationalization w the sense that it somehow exonerates them… much less elucidates. It reads more as an indictment of feminism by acknowledging that:
1., yes, they’re a hate tendency 2., they don’t view men as “PEOPLE” but instead as a thing… which is textbook bigotry… 3., they erroneously conflate a biological reality (sex) w a social one (system creation)… and even that’s a stretch since they just use the word “system” which applies far more broadly (ex, solar system)
At least they (inadvertently) give men credit for hating women as people. One can hate another human being for many reasons- such as them being a misandrist bigot- without also pretending they’re not human. Feminists do tend to lack that empathy… common to sociopaths of all stripes…
In any case none of it applies to men or women, just to feminists and their BoogeyManbad.
[–]Sorry-Cockroach-740 6 points7 points8 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“You see, if I simply recontextualize my bigoted hatred, it’s OK.”
Most humans seem to know, instinctually, that hating whole ass human beings without getting to know them as individuals is logically wrong and stupid. So they have to dehumanize and other them to justify their hatred and make it into an abstraction. "I don't hate individual humans, no, trust me, I hate [abstraction]."
Hatred is only fun if it's against non-humans.
[–]Crazy-Crazy-3593 2 points3 points4 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was thinking that, too.
The way they're saying it makes them seem WORSE.
Hating men as "a system" implies blind, indiscriminate hatred based upon membership in a group which one did not choose to join and cannot leave.
Hating women as "people" has more of an implication that they are humanized and seen as individuals with hate worthy distinct qualities.
It's crazy they can't see how what they're saying is worse.
(Obviously, I don't condone any hate, but "people" based hate seems much more ... human.)
[–]DunyaOfPain 46 points47 points48 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
holy projection? ive never heard a woman say they hate men WITHOUT having a list of hyperspecific anecdotal experiences
[–]SamuraiGoblin 58 points59 points60 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This has the same energy as, "you can't be racist against white people because...ummm, the Orwellian reasons I just made up."
[–]Mister_3177 30 points31 points32 points 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Tf do they even mean “as a system”
[–]meeralakshmi[S] 24 points25 points26 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Patriarchy probably.
[–]Crazy-Crazy-3593 3 points4 points5 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which goes to show how full of crap they are, since part of the whole Motte and Bailey routine is "I hate Patriarchy, but of course, Patriarchy hurts men, too" ---- but then when it's convenient to justify hating men "as a system," the object "men" now seems to be equated with Patriarchy.
[–]ParanoidAgnostic 24 points25 points26 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This doesn't really paint women in the positive light the author thinks it does.
It says women don't see men as people but as faceless fungible parts of a "system." (Textbook objectification)
Meanwhile men might hate women but they see them as people.
[–]Crazy-Crazy-3593 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's what I was just saying to another commenter:
[–]Nicherix 10 points11 points12 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have never met a man who truely hates women in any sense. No aggressive separation, no kaw-stuff, no crime attribution, nothing. At worst a man can diminish women.
On the other hand, the way women see men as a system what they definitely are not, is very oppressive.
[–]DarthDragon117 8 points9 points10 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate minority as a system, not as individuals.
Doesn’t sound good like that.
[–]Dimitris_p90 7 points8 points9 points 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They just want matriarchy over patriarchy.
[–]Human_Disguise3 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m a woman and no the fuck I do not. Most of us want equality, not matriarchy or patriarchy. I don’t know what these women are on.
[–]Dimitris_p90 2 points3 points4 points 4 months ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm ok with equality. I just feel like humans often pursue to rule over others, sometimes even with unjust means. I have personally experienced such injustice and still do. And no, I'm not exclusively talking about women.
[–]ChimpPimp20 7 points8 points9 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But wait, I thought “patriarchy doesn’t mean men.”
[–]ForsakenEmu3298 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Those misandrist accounts on twitter have it way different. They do not care about generalization, logic, evidences or anything that makes them reasonable enough. They are obtuse people with different ideologies all united by misandry.
[–]CyclopeWarrior 7 points8 points9 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You know when people say they don't see men as people and everyone thinks it's a joke...
[–]Human_Disguise3 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate when people say that stuff! And then I get weird looks for calling it out. It’s so infuriating!
[–]Tiny_Professional358 24 points25 points26 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]Glum_Improvement7943 6 points7 points8 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I hate women who hate men.
[–]TerribleWarthog4837 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not everyone for me, they could be innocent. some of them victims of abuse or assault.
The ones who don’t have a reason & just do it for the love of misandry. Genuinely suicide fuel by how aggravating they are.
[–]Choogie432 5 points6 points7 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So says a woman who dated men all at once as a system, and not a single individual man ever.
[–]PassengerCultural421 4 points5 points6 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some women literally hate men as people. And some feminists also ironically hate men when men aren't upholding the system whenever it's convenient. I.E. cakism Feminism.
[–]CSK_Accomplished_IPL 6 points7 points8 points 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women are the only "oppressed group" in human history to have more rights and privileges than their "oppressors".
[–]meeralakshmi[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Affirmative action grants special privileges to various minorities.
[–]AigisxLabrys 3 points4 points5 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
False rape accusations are the Kryptonite to feminist beliefs.
Women hate men based on ideological drivel and delusions.
Men hate women based on reality.
See I can do it too.
[–]Fabulous-Suspect-72 10 points11 points12 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The equivalent of:"I don't hate black ppl / immigrants as ppl, but their culture just sucks". Truely stupid.
[–]Leading_Golf4942 2 points3 points4 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Someone needs to reverse engineer this meme for dissemination on International Men’s Day.
[–]AbysmalDescent 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men hate misandry and toxic beliefs/attitudes normalized as femininity. They do not hate women.
Women very much do hate women as a individuals and as a collective. Misandry is everywhere.
[–]Remarkable_Throat280 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
how do misandrists expect to reduce sexism if all they're doing is reinforcing it?
[–]Specialist_Load_9953 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait wait wait here for just a minute; the position of the OPP from their quote in fact suggests women’s hate is generalised and an inexcusable blanket hate of all men, which is the literal definition of sexism and misandry.
Hate is never a healthy position to be; however for a man to personally hate and individual woman as OPP suggests men do, obviously doesn’t arise out of thin air, so he must have his reasons for hating her. The fact he’s recognised his hate is based on her actions and choices as an individual and not because she’s a woman and they’re all the same and deserving of the same hate he feels for her, is actually the better and correct take.
[–]Cultural-Disk-7734 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, I hate them as individuals and is a group and is a system. Thank you.
[–]Human_Disguise3 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why? There is literally no reason is there to hate every single man/AMAB on this planet just for existing! Androphobia resulting from trauma is the only thing I can think of that would reasonably make someone nervous around men/AMABs, and that doesn’t excuse treating people like shit!
[–]Cultural-Disk-7734 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t hate all men! I don’t want to… I am resentful and bitter towards them based off my own experience and what I see they do to women. I wish I had it in me to hate them but certain behaviors I illicit shows me that I don’t really hate them enough ..
[–]Human_Disguise3 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You contradicted yourself a lot there.
[–]TheMemeMkaer -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, this is valid…
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We don’t accept misandry or misogyny in this sub.
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