Don't understand why y'all hate redpill when everything they say is not all false

_Terrible_Advice_ · 2023-06-01T16:52:43+00:00

My bf is 5'8". Work on your personality.

ZookeepergameWide931 · 2023-06-01T16:47:55+00:00

First off No one claimed that everything they say is false just that a lot of it is and some of they’re “solutions” for male improvement are ass backwards like saying men in their twenties should get vasectomies. Secondly I’m well aware that looks/height matter but I don’t think they matter as much as you think when getting women. I have friends who are way shorter than I am who are great with women solely off the basis that they are charming, funny, have confidence, know how to dance, and know how to groom themselves.

thrownawaytodaysr · 2023-06-01T17:02:50+00:00

Height is a factor in attraction but it is just one factor. Physical fitness is another factor. Physical attractiveness is another factor.

But the thing is... There are myriad aspects that determine one's relative attractiveness from person to person. Fatalistic determinist views that being 5'8" (or shorter) inevitably results in perpetual virginity is not only false (I am 5'7" and definitely not a virgin) but likely feeds into why many men struggle to find someone. They are often so set on self-pity and misogyny that their personalities become the biggest drawbacks about them as people.

Being an intrinsically kind and caring person gets you a heck of a lot further than red pill advice will. And you don't need to subscribe to red pill views and opinions to be able to care about your appearance to make an effort to self-improve.

Green-Measurement-53 · 2023-06-01T18:01:49+00:00

This must be a troll. “I am still a virgin at 26 because I am 5’8”..” Buddy, it’s not your height.

Also, what goes through your mind when you see the comments left by men happily in relationships at your height? What goes through your mind when you go outside and see a man that height or shorter with his children or wife? I bet you have a bunch more excuses for instances such as those but since men can get laid (and have happy relationships) at that height we can both agree height isn’t what’s stopping anyone.

Downtown_Cat_1172 · 2023-06-01T16:56:26+00:00

You can pick apart any ideology and find something positive about it. Literally any one. That doesn't make it good overall.

My husband is 5'7". Maybe the issue isn't your height?

DefiantLiterature144 · 2023-06-01T17:02:46+00:00

Your not a virgin because your 5’8 your a virgin because you don’t know how to talk to girls

mylesaway2017 · 2023-06-01T18:23:13+00:00

Short ugly guys find romantic relationships all the time. The reason why you think that redpill none sense is true is because it speaks to your insecurities and, no pun intended, short comings.

Rad1Red · 2023-06-01T19:13:03+00:00

My husband is 5'7". You're not speaking truth.

Also, we dont "hate" the redpill movement for saying "go to the gym, take control of your life etc". That is good advice... that you can get elsewhere without the sh*t tho.

RedPillDetox · 2023-06-01T16:57:38+00:00

I'm 5'8, ugly too and i smash

Sucks to be you, i guess

DefiantLiterature144 · 2023-06-01T18:17:45+00:00

This man said looks matter because male exotic dancers aren’t overweight what a fucking retard

GlassOfSkimMilf · 2023-06-01T17:10:57+00:00

I don't think anyone here or anyone reasonable argues that it doesn't matter. Most people say that it's not THE determining factor. There may be subconscious things at play for people who don't work on their minds and personalities, but a lot of good women can look beyond a man's genetically-determined height, see that it wasn't his choice to be born that way, and see if he's attractive still without that being a MAIN selling point. Come on now, it's not that hard to see the variables and grey in-between.

fathergoose77 · 2023-06-01T18:23:37+00:00

The problem I see here is not your height but that you watch smash or pass videos and think that’s how people actually select their partner. While attraction is important, no one is perfect and you don’t have to look like a male model to attract someone. Are you ONLY trying to attract women that look like models?

I’m on the shorter side myself and plenty of my buddies are your height with varying fitness levels who have both had casual hookups and fulfilling long term relationships. So the redpill theory on that is just not based in reality.

It’s not redpill to say that attractive people are attractive and will have more people attracted to them. That doesn’t mean you’re doomed if you’re not super attractive. Not every man can look like Hemsworth just like not every women can look like ScarJo and that’s okay.

Try dating within bigger social circles and meeting people in person. Practice your social and conversation skills with women. I get the feeling that you’re chronically stuck in online dating because those are dudes I see saying “looks are the only thing that matter” the most because they’re expecting only they’re profile photos to bring the ladies crawling at them for sex like some fantasy chad scenario. Maybe I’m wrong but that seems to usually be the case.

Soft-Neat8117 · 2023-06-01T20:34:48+00:00

I'm 6'1" and have never even kissed a girl. All the dudes who were shorter than me scored.

I'm sick of all these short guys (and 5'8" is not short, it's the average height for men) bitching about their height preventing them from attracting women.

FixDifficult752 · 2023-06-01T16:47:55+00:00

Going to get heavily downvoted but I don't care this is the truth.

Ironically they speak so badly of the very same people they say they want to help. Maybe it's because it doesn't line up with their believes or agenda? Invalidating men's experiences and putting the blame on them will only further strengthen redpill beliefs whether they like it or not. Another, what incentive do men get for abandoning a way of life that has provided them with so much comfort among uncertain times. Because if the solution is going to back to being a traditional man for a non-traditional woman, it will not work because men KNOW this is a very raw deal. And like I said earlier shaming,isolating,and rejecting a man who is redpilled will never be the answer to un-red-pilling the man. They have that way of thinking,often for very real and valid reasons. Why should they abandon what helped them for so many years? Especially in a society that is well known for despising and hating masculinity. When was the last time you saw a young-men's role model that WASN'T canceled,shamed,sued or imprisoned??? And as long as woke society refuses to acknowledge these issues (because then the manosphere will be validated) this is only to become more and more with every single day that passes. And every day society ignores,isolates and shames men who do not conform to woke roles or standards, is a day that will further cement their beliefs, and it will be even more difficult to remove them from (some) of the negative aspects of redpill.

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ZookeepergameWide931 · 2023-06-01T20:16:58+00:00

You don’t need to be a 6ft+ gigachad to get women. I recommend taking an art/dance class if you’re interested. You’re bound to meet women there. People in general love someone who shows passion in what they do.

Also having platonic relationships with women helps as well wether it be friends, coworkers, family members, etc.

Sin16X · 2023-06-02T00:27:45+00:00

I'm only an inch taller than you at 5'9. I've been with many attractive women. I think maybe try not being a little bitch.

Accomplished_Bus1375 · 2023-06-02T02:07:34+00:00

Evil exists. You have two types of people...

Those who make money on it

Those who try and fight it.

Neither group is saying evil isn't real.

Same thing here.

l0rdkn1ght · 2023-06-02T02:21:01+00:00

My sister is 5'8", her husband is 5'5". I would bet the issue isn't your height.

PsychicFiction · 2023-06-02T02:50:10+00:00

I’m 5”7 and my gf is 5”11

asdasf123321 · 2023-06-02T15:07:49+00:00

If you ignored height, would you consider yourself attractive?

Title	Don't understand why y'all hate redpill when everything they say is not all false
Author	AM_UGLYAS_
Upvotes	0
Comments	35
Date	June 1, 2023 4:33 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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