If an acceptable argument for RedPill is "not everything they say is wrong", does that mean they should also support Feminism for the same reason?

_Terrible_Advice_ · 2023-06-24T12:23:41+00:00

Logic doesn't come into play when you're trying to excuse misogyny.

lilycamilly · 2023-06-24T12:47:21+00:00

Logically yes, but in practice no because RP-ers are dumdums.

These suckers will really follow Andrew Tate to the ends of the earth despite the fact he's literally being charged with rape and sex trafficking, because "he has some good ideas". Those good ideas being... Going to the gym and earning lots of money is cool. Like, wow. Groundbreaking advice.

They act like Tate/Jordan Peterson and the like are absolute geniuses for giving basic life advice such as "do exercise and clean your room", and then they'll defend every other abhorrent view or behavior of these shitheads based on "well they have some good ideas". Homie, if you had been listening to your parents for literally your entire life, they'd have told you the same shit. ANYONE can tell you the same shit.

spiraldinosaur · 2023-06-24T15:02:02+00:00

Applying logic to red pill is like applying logic to a toddler.

ThreeArmedYeti · 2023-06-24T15:33:10+00:00

You can join RP because there are some stuff you agree with but if you open your mouth about the ones you disagree, you will face their gatekeeping.

ashaw7 · 2023-06-24T16:20:27+00:00

No. Just because one thing from a given source is valid, it doesn't make everything valid. In the same vein, just because something is asserted by an unreliable source it does not make it false. This is the genetic fallacy, the assertion that where an idea comes from can make it valid or invalid. Im not sure what the inverse one is, that a source was right about one thing and that makes it right about everything.

KingKunta2-D · 2023-06-24T12:56:25+00:00

So we’re just gonna act like Choice feminism isn’t a thing? Also Don’t give them easy layups. Because they’ll say yes, “of course women equal deserve rights under the law, just don’t like fourth wave cultural feminism🤓”. You haven’t watched enough to know. But they say this all the time

veladem · 2023-06-25T02:30:21+00:00

I'm in that camp, and I like to think that a lot of people are in the camp of; I'm going to openly and dutifully listen to multiple perspectives and make choices based on my own experiences and beliefs/ideals.

However, social media blows a lot of things out of proportion or tends to skew to radical extents in the name of getting the most views possible. Let's be honest here, on both sides, it's a show put on to get the most clicks, attain the most views, stir up the most drama, garner the most clout, and just generally make the most money possible.

So, as for me, I of course have some feminist views that I can agree with. Mind you I consider my dating life red pilled and my political life mostly liberal. But I also don't identify as a liberal, instead choosing to call myself a conservative, register Republican, and then vote where I feel my vote is needed.

I think many people would be a lot better off viewing all sides, even those they see as deplorable. (You can learn many things from those you disagree with.) We should try to be less tribalistic, less voting based on 'colour/party', and just generally more open to logic and reasoning.

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Naus1987 · 2023-06-24T14:27:02+00:00

I’ve often compared men going their own way to feminism.

A lot of core philosophies can be true (and ethical). Like everyone is equal, and men can live happy and fulfilling lives without dating.

The problem is that extremism corrupts everything.

Even the human race can fall into that. It’s hard to say humans are a worthwhile species when you can pull up near endless lists of murderers and all sorts of terrors.

At the end of the day, it’s almost about breaking down individual aspects.

It’s not about movements. But Individual virtues. Kindness is good. Stealing is bad. Sexism is bad. Working out is good.

Judge everyone as an individual based on the combination of their traits.

StarTrippinn · 2023-06-25T00:32:35+00:00

I don't see what men find wrong with feminism. I honestly would like to hear valid criticisms of feminism because in theory, feminism benefits everyone. If half of the population and half of the people in marriages are able to financially support each other equally, that's a win. But when both parents are now working, who is taking care of the kids, cooking, cleaning, ect?

Instead of helping to fill that void and evolving with the world, a subset of males would rather bitch and moan and blame the women. Introducing.... 🟥🟥

RED PILL yay 🥳🥳🎉🎉🎊🎊🎈🪩🪅🪅 party all the time party all the time

But honestly, no bullshit. What exactly is wrong with feminism? For me, I am a bit critical of feminism because it doesn't quite cover all of the intersections between gender, race and class that would make it more impactful for all women, not just those who are college educated and white. However, I still recognize that there are benefits of feminism regardless.

If they tried, they could see some benefits as well, or hell, create their own movement with valid concerns. Key word: valid

Nightchanger · 2023-06-24T20:01:56+00:00

RP is not wrong, it's just toxic

Feredi1 · 2023-06-24T13:36:20+00:00

What is it with redditor NPCs and getting butt hurt over uncomfortable truths?

You spit some facts and then get downvotted and banned lmao. Who are these fairy but hurt mods?😂😂

You break no rules yet if you say something out of the narritive you’re insta banned

Chad exist, only thing that matters for attraction is looks muscle and d size. Job/money don’t matter unless you want to be a human atm machine, status don’t matter unless you’re okay with being used for clout

There I said it. It’s the truth now ban me you clowns

DragonflyAromatic793 · 2023-06-24T21:39:00+00:00

You dont need to support redpill or feminism. all you have to do is not cancel and censor them. let humans have open discourse. may the best logic win.

Aurelius-chfn09a · 2023-06-25T07:43:33+00:00

Logically, no. To assume that would require believing that at least some things feminists say are right. Besides, "not everything they say is wrong", isn't an argument; it's a statement, and a pretty empty one at that.

ZenSawaki · 2023-06-26T05:55:53+00:00

"Even a broken clock gives the right time twice a day".

Even the most ignorant person in this planet is sometimes right.

If an acceptable argument for RedPill is "not everything they say is wrong", does that mean they should also support Feminism for the same reason?

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Title	If an acceptable argument for RedPill is "not everything they say is wrong", does that mean they should also support Feminism for the same reason?
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Date	June 24, 2023 11:07 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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