I used to voice out and explain to guys of what i was hurt and they didn’t listen, never. So i stopped talking and whenever they try to manipulate me, i go silent on text.

If the guy is showing low efforts? I ghost on them on supposed dates. I’ve done this many many times but make sure you dont give them your real number. My whatsapp is linked to my fake number.

If the guy is mentioning other girls? Mention guys who are your type having opposite physical traits from him.

If the guy is cheap? Don’t even bring your wallet on a date so he is forced to pay.

If a guy asks you when we’re going to hangout? Don’t try to convince him to take you out on dates, rather, ghost them.

The best way is to slowly fade and ghost them. They’ll be left wondering what they did wrong and continue doing so until it backfires on them.

After learning FDS, i keep my mouth shut, smile like a lady and ignore them if something doesn’t go right. Then they chase harder.

Also dont text him at night. I try not to text a guy during 8pm to 8am.

If a guy asks for more pics, send him ‘his’ pics.

Also do not ever pay on dates.

If the guy qsks something you dont want to answer such as sexual history just act like you didnt hear him. Even in text, i send him “ i didnt receive anything, could you send again ? “ then they eventually get tired.

Once my ex narc was manipulating me, i just acted like he was invisible and he went crazy and eventually apologized and fixed his behavior. Narcissism and manipulators thrive on attention so dont give them the power to have it.

I thought of how to weed out red pilled guys for few months, basically just weed out manipulative guys and guys who give backhanded effort. Also ugly guys. If they say things like “if you dont do X then i’ll block you”, make the first move and block him. If he does LV1 action, go one step further and do LV2 action. My ex used to be late on dates so after that, i’d be late an hr, then he stopped being late and became punctual. Do not ever do things that’s expected, always surprise him with your actions in order to fix him.

Also, if i really want to lose the guy who i thought was HvM but instead manipulative and LVM, i keep telling them how tired and sick i am. “I’m so stressed out and tired because of my work”. No one wants to hear this so they eventually get lost.

I’m asian so i always get asked out where i’m from, and lot of times guys who ask those questions are lVM who’s seeking submissive girls. I’d say 90%, those guys are considered unattractive in their own culture, and these are the type of guys who date minorities. This might be controversial, but after this, i dont date guys who’s considered ugly in thier own culture. When you meet a guy from different culture/race esp minorities tend to overestimate the guy’s looks. I’ve seen numerous times(mostly in the states) where asian girl dates a guy for the sake of him being white and decent looking and realize he’s LvM. In this case its important to study the culture and compare how he treats you and also how women from that culture thinks of him on attractiveness scale.

In my culture therees a saying “you cannot spit on a smiling face” meaning you cannot show anger on calm, gentle demeanor. So i started being more calm to guys and dont call them out, rather ghost on them. Opposite of love isn’t hate but is apathy. If i successfully use this tactics, guys usually fix up or just take themselevs out from the trashcan.

Even dating, i do not give out much personal information which they can manipulate me but rather something very generic and vague. I used to use fake name, age and also lied about the place i was living in. It might be too much but it was for my own safety as you never know what kind of guy you’re meeting on OLD

One thing i learned using OLD is if you lower your standards and give chance to guys who are below you, they think that youre on the same level as them when you’re not. So do not ever date someone who is less than you.

I used to dress up casually after moving here and didnt make much effort in creating classy looks, then scrotes and LVm started approaching me. After that i never ever dress up in revealing or clothes that give me cheap or easy looks. Make it appear that youre hard to approach and i noticed quality guys approach. Also, being slim is very important. I hate to say this, but when i was skinny/slim HvM approached me more.

Also pls check mindful attraction 2.0 for reading guy's mind. I've successfully applied some tactics learned from thet YouTube channel.

I agree that this shouldn't be applied in healthy relationships but these days where most interactions are formed through OLD, I could say most guys are LVM. I'd say these tactics I suggested are safer method than calling out the guy. I've met numerous guys who are in higher socio economic backgrounds as average Joe but there are manipulators everywhere. 90% of the r/dating_advice and r/relationships questions revolve around girl being abused whether emotional or physical, and nowadays, I'm just not surprised anymore.

If the guy show's first sign of red flag, but your'e not sure if its red flag or not, ask yourself, " What is my gut feeling telling me?". I'd say every individual have different standards when it comes to red flag, but you should trust your gut feeling as its big data of life you lived so far. And this is proven by research that gut feeling is accurate.

If you're inexperienced in dating, pls trust your gut feeling. Also, when you date a guy outside of your culture/race you're unfamiliar with, remember, that people are people no matter the country or culture. If the guy doesn't give you basic respect, LEAVE.

*edited: the purpose of this is to outplay the manipulative ones who keeps coming back. Blocking is the best move but sometimes, really persistent ones comeback and also you maybe in situation where you just cant walk away.