TIL: Differences in physical anatomy may be to blame for why some women can have vaginal orgasms and others can’t. Women who have a clitoris that is less than 2.5cm (1inch) from their urinary opening can usually have orgasms during intercourse.

radical__daphne · 2020-05-12T19:13:23+00:00

Here's a really big idea... Now stay with me here... It's a hard concept. the guy could, I don't know, rub the woman's clitoris until she orgasms during sex.

"WoMeN DoN't nEeD tO oRgAsM"

Isn't it funny how no one ever says this about men? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Anyway, if he's not making me cum every single time, I'm not coming back.

I don't consent to sex where I don't orgasm and the pleasure isn't mutual. It's another kind of sexual abuse. Using people sexually is abuse. They lead the woman on making her think that he will give her pleasure but the moment he gets his dick in her he forgets about her completely. For men foreplay is often just a trick. They only do enough that you will allow entry. Fuck that!

rinabean · 2020-05-12T12:11:35+00:00

"It's not her fault. She was born that way," said Whelihan

Like those are the only options. Her fault or god's. Can't possibly be the fault of the man getting his whilst she never gets hers. It obviously can't be that :/

However, couples also should remember that orgasm with intercourse is not necessary for a woman to have a healthy or enjoyable sex life, Lloyd added.

Yes, don't forget. Don't you dare forget for one minute that women don't have sex for sexual satisfaction. It's especially important to tell "couples", by which she means "men", this. They've probably never heard it before, poor things! What does "healthy" even mean here, fgs?

I've noticed this study being talked about again recently, I wonder why? That write up is from 2016, here's the study they're referencing from 2011 - free to read. That Lloyd is one of the authors. At the start, you'll see they wonder if there could be social reasons, but then it gets right back to it being women's sad biological lot to never orgasm :( Nothing can be done :( But it's okay 'cause women don't even care :) The studies they were examining are one from the 1920s - who was going to the doctor with sexual difficulties then? how could they possibly be held to be representative of all women? - and one from the 1940s where half were "psychiatric inpatients". Measuring their clits sounds super scientific, part of their good treatment probably, and not all creepy right? Anyway this is all based on like 400 women, tops, in that timeframe. (And the two studies gave totally different averages for this measurement??) And now it's being used to give men in our time an excuse for being shit in bed.

How many women who report difficulty orgasming from PIV sex have had it with good male lovers? That's what I want to know. Just on this sub, I've heard from so many women who couldn't orgasm during sex with a lot of men, but could with some. And sometimes this is just because they finally got a man who cares and has a non microscopic dick. So unless their clits were moving around during this time, you know?

The study also doesn't seem to take into account that the clitoris is more than the glans. This makes the distinction between so-called vaginal orgasms and clitoral ones seem unimportant entirely. Stimulating a different part of the clitoris is not not stimulating the clitoris. I think this reflects the age of the original studies where the extent of the internal clitoris was not known. No excuse in 2010 though

The actual studies again? Check "Table 1". One literally says the complete opposite of the headline. When your clit is too far away for men to be expected to make you come, 33% of you still will at least 66% of the time. And again. That's the shitty sex women were putting up with in 1940.

Bad science clickbait headlines & making excuses for men are two of my biggest pet hates lmao sorry for the essay. For me the most interesting part of this is that the author of the first study they looked at, in the 1920s, was such a believer in her theory she did surgeries on herself to try to move her clit... obviously it didn't work :( And she did it on 4-5 more women and it didn't work for them either. But at least she put her money where her mouth was? More than can be said about most of the people with ideas for chopping up women.

Unlikely-Marzipan · 2020-05-12T15:22:13+00:00

I am so jealous of all these women who can have vaginal orgasms. I need to find me a big thick dick and get grinding 😂

ivy176 · 2020-05-12T11:51:41+00:00

I only started having vaginal orgasms once I got with a guy who was thicker than average and natural/not circumcised. I can't do it properly now though because my clit has become ultra sensitive after a UTI. It's been 3 months and I still can't let anything touch it so I can't grind. I have an orgasm within like a minute of sex now but it's like weird painful stunted orgasm 😑

I was never this sensitive before that, so basically what worked was going on top and grinding and tensing all my muscles. You have to find the right angle. Also it just has to be the right penis I'm afraid. Clit stimulation would be a part of it for me, but the orgasm is way different and I can feel it's vaginal. Well used to be able to. I need to try numbing gel on my clit or something.

ImPiqued1111111 · 2020-05-12T16:07:52+00:00

I'm dubious about this article because it's only considering the external portion of the clitoris. I suspect what is considered a vaginal orgasm is actually stimulation of the internal structure of the clitoris, and the placement of that structure in individual women.

The article states that women who experience these vaginal orgasm tend to do so when they are "on top", and it's because they are leaning forward and stimulating the external clitoris. I'm sorry, do women tend to lean forward when they're on top? Like, I don't.

dragonsanddinosawers · 2020-05-12T08:57:50+00:00

I can orgasm from penetration alone or from clitoral stimulation. I always figured they were two distinct things. Penetration related orgasms are always 100% more satisfying for one thing. Clitoral stimulation alone will work but it always feels like a temporary, surface level thing. But sure, orgasms from just penis in vagina sex are definitely rarer than if my husband decides to murder me with a little extra manual attention.

Then I read the part where the article says most women who say this say they usually need to be on top. Now I'm rethinking my life. Not going to be able to have sex anymore without being like, am I rubbing on him? 🤣

sashimi_girl · 2020-05-12T09:25:21+00:00

But that’s clitoral stimulation...so...do NO women have orgasms from just penetration? (Not hating, I can’t)

Seraphinx · 2020-05-12T10:47:27+00:00

This is quite interesting. I do orgasm from vaginal sex but it is only in certain positions where I'm guessing the... clitoral mass? Is being stimulated from... both sides I guess?

Like, I can sort of force a clitoral orgasm sometimes (a man has literally never given me on from either oral or manual stimulation), but the best orgasms happen when it's being worked from all angles.

MexicanFoodShootOut · 2020-05-12T10:58:48+00:00

For anyone who fancies reading up on the full structure of the clitoris:

https://helloclue.com/articles/cycle-a-z/what-is-the-clitoris

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