I'm sure many others here feel extremely similarly to me. To be politically left/liberal or at least leaning as such, and to also be for male advocacy and be opposed to woke, and hate the negative association and stigma. You say you're in anyway left-wing or liberal, people are quick to write you off as "woke" or "cucked" and think you're a misandrist who doesn't care to bring attention to male issues. Likewise if you claim you're opposed to woke or feminism, you're automatically assumed to be a hardcore right-winger or part of the manosphere. Both equally negative associations and you feel like you're in-between a rock and a hard place. It's the harmful and damaging association with the Right that makes so many people not take misandry and male issues seriously and write them off as a joke, and likewise it doesn't help with the woke part of the far-Left that when you try to bring up male issues and bring up how too often men and boys have their needs and inequalities ignored, you get accused of trying to deflect from women's issues and get told the usual song and dance how men will never have it as bad as women, etc. Especially in regards to the existence of misandry and female violence against men and boys also being something that happens in high numbers just as much as the other way around.

It's actually very worrying to see and hear how since the election how the manosphere has been emboldened by Trump's win and how woke idealogy is supposedly over. It's largely due to both the very negative association male advocacy has had with the far-Right for the past several years and the woke crowd's refusal to acknowledge male issues at all or even outright suppress them. That very real, severe problems affecting men and boys like misandry, the misandrist bias in courts and schools, failure to acknowledge the reality and prevalence of FVAMB, etc. that these issues will continue to be ignored and not taken seriously at all. It was always worrying to me how right after Trump's first term how there was such an intentional effort to demonize men and masculinity and the failure to acknowledge male issues that male voters would flee in droves from the left and be suckered in and drawn by the far-Right. This was sadly proven true with this year's election and the especially poor showing with male voters.

People are celebrating the end of woke but I honestly feel the misandrist sentiment so prominent with woke will return even stronger and be far worse as a result of Trump's second term. We're already seeing the rise of the extreme 4B movement and I feel that's just the tip of the iceberg with how we'll see an even worse woke movement that'll continue to demonize men and turn away men from wanting to be associated with the Left in anyway, not realizing the Right doesn't truly care for them, either. It's a terrible negative association and stigma, either way. I still consider myself liberal with most of my views and stances but am in no way woke and I'm tired of the association with woke as well as the association male advocacy has with the Right. If anything, it's the very definition of being liberal to want to acknowledge, address and want to rectify inequalities facing men and boys, and to expand the gender equality conversation to include that.