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Limp-Sherbet4338 · 2022-07-06T19:02:28+00:00

Wait a second, this isn't the left-wing market anarchist subreddit I was looking for...

No-Perspective5346 · 2022-06-30T17:19:48+00:00

Need help (as always). I need all the times feminists protested against male advocacy discussions.

frognationalist · 2022-06-29T00:40:11+00:00

Why do leftists automatically assume misogyny when they read the phrase “MRA”, “men’s rights”? They act as if advocating for men’s rights means advocating for removing women’s rights, as if those two can’t coexist. What is up with that?

KxPbmjLI · 2022-06-27T11:41:49+00:00

is there any discord of this community? or just any good mens rights related discords would be nice

Skeleton_Warrior · 2022-06-26T10:50:31+00:00

On Twitter there was a hashtag trending earlier that said #VoteBlueToProtectWomen. Again, leaving men out of the equation altogether and only protecting women. Both should be protected, this is common sense. What's going on with the abortion ban is a clear infringement on women's rights, yes, and this should be countered, but let's not forget that men also have their rights infringed upon and deserve to be protected as much as women.

I'm sure the average feminist reading this would accuse me of hijacking women's issues for bringing this up, but it's only brought up because too often men and the inequalities they face continue to go completely ignored and brushed aside, and all we ever hear is what affects women. Both need to be advocated for and need to be helped in instances where either is having their rights infringed upon.

a-man-from-earth · 2022-06-22T04:17:39+00:00

Interesting thread over at AskMen: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/vhbw9m/what_is_a_stigma_on_men_that_we_should_work_on/

Skeleton_Warrior · 2022-06-21T07:45:23+00:00

I've ranted about this before, but the term "trust women" is so stupid and just as ignorant and dumb as "believe women." Believing or trusting someone solely on their gender is always stupid, as both men and women alike can be deceitful and manipulative, and both lie. Yet one is to be trusted solely on gender alone? Ridiculous. I don't trust women or men, I trust people who are worthy of trust and have earned it, male and female alike. Telling people to blindly trust women is stupid and even dangerous, it's thinking like that that enables bad women to get always with all sorts of things and never face repercussions.

dr-korbo · 2022-06-20T14:18:02+00:00

I feel like many women have difficulties with handling responsibilities and taking risks. When I see arguments involving men and women, men are more prone to admit when they're wrong or when they make mistakes. I think that's also the problem with the so-called "patriarchy": blaming men for every problem in the world. When women did something wrong it's implied they were conditionned to behave like that so they're not at fault.

I think that's the reason why there are less women in high-level position. It requires responsibility, the ability to admit when you make mistakes. Starting a business also involves risk and women seem more risk-adverse.

It's hard to trust people unable to receive criticism.

Skeleton_Warrior · 2022-06-17T20:19:50+00:00

I've posted about this before, but it's scary and disturbing seeing so many people stand by and defend Amber Heard even with her being guilty as sin with all of the evidence against her showing her being blatantly abusive and manipulative, and playing victim. It's just like how Trump's supporters are with him. Speaking of Trump, he and Amber are comparable in the sense both think of themselves as victims and are incredibly narcissistic, always making something all about them. These two with their narcissism and blind followers are like peas in a pod.

griii2 · 2022-06-16T12:17:03+00:00

I have noticed r/menkampf is up again but inactive. They haven't had a new post in a month. Does anybody have some info?

Skeleton_Warrior · 2022-06-16T07:06:06+00:00

I hate how men and boys are viewed as disposable so much of the time. We always hear about women and children affected but almost never anything about men, and you know when children are being referred to of course it's primarily girls. I recently read up on something that mentioned women and children affected by AIDS but as usual nothing about men, even though men are far more likely to die of AIDS. I care about both men/boys and women/girls equally affected by things like AIDS, and it sucks how the former are viewed as disposable and not worth caring about. I hate so much how this narrative is something that's been so deeply entrenched in society for decades.

TheLWMA · 2022-06-15T04:05:15+00:00

Has anyone noticed that there's been an increase of stories where the premise is that there's some sort of plague or virus that specifically kills most or all men in the world.

frognationalist · 2022-06-14T17:22:13+00:00

I saw an internet article titled “Trans rights are men’s rights: No wonder they clash with feminists”

I couldnt tell if it was inclusive feminism or TERFshit. Took a look at the first paragraph and author already misgenders a MTF. Why do these TERFs act like trans men don’t exist? Because I scrolled to the bottom and the whole article is ranting about MTF.

Another interesting point is how TERFs constantly complain about how males transition to obtain “female privilege” and not because they actually want to be women. Basically mask off. TERFs and first world feminism at large seems to be about preserving already established female privilege and to use the words “rights” to add on top of them.

Edit: I think both men and women have their own privileges and challenges. I’m not saying we should ignore our own, but rather make it so EVERYONE can share a certain privilege, not just men or women or whatever. And no one should have to face gender-based challenges. The problem with feminism is that they downplay men’s challenges rather than uplifting and working with men. Talk about custody court, prison sentence disparities? Clearly you’re a manospherian incel.

Future_Adagio2052 · 2022-06-13T17:01:45+00:00

Wasn't there a post earlier saying something along the lines of the importance of fact checking has it been removed if so can someone send me a link please

No-Perspective5346 · 2022-06-12T14:52:19+00:00

Hey guys. I've been seeing a lot of articles saying that the "women and children first rule" during the titanic was a myth. However I remember seeing an article linked by a commenter on this sub that debunked this claim. Can anyone find the article please?

Banake · 2022-06-11T23:18:40+00:00

I just learned that Rebecca Watson made a video about the Depp vs. Heard trial. I already know what she will say and decided not to watch it for the sake of my mental health.

frognationalist · 2022-06-11T02:37:21+00:00

Feminist SJWs: Injustice somewhere is an injustice everywhere!

MRA: Men have injustices such as homeless deaths, shorter lifespans, harsher penalties for similar crimes and circumstances, etc.

Feminist SJWs: That's the patriarchy! How about you men dismantle the patriarchy before complaining?

MRA: Ok, how can I help dismantle the patriarchy?

Feminist SJWs: Advocate for women's rights, I don't know. How about you google it yourself? I am not entitled to teach you. Ugh, so entitled.

MooreanShiftingUrArg · 2022-06-10T13:47:54+00:00

Anyone aware of the demographic composition of menslib? How many of them are actually women larping as men? And how many genuinely self-flagellating men? I ask this because there is helluva overlap between that sub and femosphere subs.

amjh · 2022-06-08T21:45:46+00:00

One thing that bothers me, and can be relevant in some situations, as different standards are applied based on gender:

"Bad" vs "different".

In most social situations, a person who is disadvantaged is assumed to be "bad" in some way: ugly, having poor social skills, having a bad personality or attitude.

However, based on my observations and personal experiences, "different" usually is treated worse that "bad". Behaving differently is worse than being antisocial, mean, or a bully. Having different interests is worse than being boring or a poor conversationalist. Having a different style of clothing, accessories or hair is worse than having a visually unpleasing style.

When someone is mistreated and ostracized, they're usually told they need to improve to stop being "bad": behave better, improve their appearance, learn to socialize. But, none of that applies if they're abused for being different. At that point, they're basically told to hide everything genuine about themselves and pretend to be someone they're not. So, they can be unhappy from being isolated or unhappy from suppressing their genuine personality and interests.

In the end, it ends up with a lot of people punished and told they're wrong, when they're really just different.

Skeleton_Warrior · 2022-06-08T02:22:26+00:00

It irks me how there's people who literally believe misandry and sexism against men doesn't exist. Misandry is very much real and is just as bad and wrong as misogyny, and it should be recognized and condemned just as much. Men also experience sexism just as women do, and it's wrong either way.

philinspirit · 2022-06-07T01:51:47+00:00

Wow is this for real? I am a man who has been politically left my entire adult life. Most of my friends are liberal-to-radical leftists. None of them ever criticizes feminist dogma. Do people here really join with that mission statement? I sure hope so -- please don't let me down, people!

h-pthrowaway425 · 2022-06-18T01:51:27+00:00

https://mobile.twitter.com/dylanmatt/status/1537802812616232960?cxt=HHwWgMCyydXgr9cqAAAA

I'm not a regular poster here but I thought you guys would be interested in seeing this. The SPLC disagrees, but personally I'm very glad to see that more young men on the left side of the aisle have become more aware of the harm feminism has inflicted on them and society in general, especially in recent years.

This is exactly what happens when you have a political movement filled with people who constantly demonize men and make them feel like they're not worthy of respect or even basic human decency. Even the most liberal/leftist of men start to get tired of it after a while.

Skeleton_Warrior · 2022-06-03T21:13:01+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDLpcjLiSt4

I ranted about this before in the LWMA Lounge May thread. I was already sort of iffy on this film due to some questionable things the director said, in regards to the dinosaurs as comic book heroes and villains, which is pretty stupid and goes against the series' beginnings of trying to depict them as realistic animals. But now it looks like they had to cave in to wokeness with this. The Jurassic movies had strong women from the very beginning and they didn't try to shove a feminist agenda right in your face like so many other productions do these days. The depiction of strong women felt natural, but these days whenever we hear about how a film or show has strong women it just feels like empty, soulless corporate pandering rather than genuine empowerment. Other works of the time like the first two respective Alien and Terminator films, Buffy, etc. all had strong and genuinely progressive portrayals of women and weren't trying to push propaganda. They felt like genuine female empowerment, and also weren't trying to slander the males in the audience. This just feels like more empty pandering to win points with the ultra-wokers. I'm worried as a lifelong fan of this series, I'd hate to see the series finale be a massive wokefest among other things I'm iffy on. Just concentrate on making a good film with compelling storytelling and characters, gender is completely irrelevant to any of that.

It's still so annoying how people assume you're a woker or SJW if you claim to be liberal, progressive, etc. I'm staunchy liberal with most of my views and hate wokeness. It feels regressive rather than progressive and like empty corporate pandering to appease the fanatic SJWs.

TheLWMA · 2022-06-02T00:59:38+00:00

Interestingly enough, there's quite a few feminists on r/JusticeForJohnnyDepp who claimed that they were banned on feminist subreddits for supporting Johnny.

Skeleton_Warrior · 2022-06-01T23:31:36+00:00

I'm so happy Johnny Depp won his case but it feels like there's still more to be done in truly getting him justice. Namely him getting back his terminated film roles and Amber Heard being imprisoned. She physically abused him and deserves proper punishment for that. But this is no doubt a tremendous step towards recognizing male DV victims and female DV perpetraters.

MRA_TitleIX · 2022-06-01T12:44:56+00:00

Newly appointed ~~internet janitor~~ mod here. I want to introduce myself in case anyone isn't already familiar with me. I have been around the MRM most of my life, and I currently focus a heavy amount of activism into Title IX, an American civil rights law banning discrimination in educational programs that take federal financial assistance. I try to connect people with resources for it and let them know there are avenues for flexing their Title IX rights that cost nothing but time.

I have filed over 30 federal complaints, plus an unknown number of state-level complaints regarding gender discrimination. There are several state and federal investigations going on as a result, but most are still under review (pre-investigation). My work has garnered the attention of a federal senator as well as a reporter who is working on covering a story of mine.

I became a mod here because the team wanted some help. I remember the period of time when the MRM communities were largely unpalatable to me because they were filled with vitriol and rage bait. It took persistent good modding by others to get things back on track, and I am stepping forward to help as the communities continue to grow. I find this sub to be a breath of fresh air in that it tends to be more academic and activist oriented than other spaces. I have no intention of changing anything about the direction of this sub, I think it has been going extremely well. My role is to help with the day-to-day.

As far as the MRM goes, I do want to see some change. People are noticing and becoming aware, and that took a lot of work to accomplish. The next step is taking legal and productive activism. Writing to reps, writing complaints, and getting involved with activist groups that are out there making a difference is critical. Activism is vital in translating awareness to change, and the MRM is ready for that. It takes communities like this to foster that kind of work.

As always, feel free to ping me with Title IX topics, issues, discussion, or questions. Now we can add mod-stuff to that list as well.

not a lawyer, just absurdly passionate about civil rights

a-man-from-earth · 2022-05-31T22:27:45+00:00

Happy month of June!

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