This one is solid

jkarovskaya · 2019-12-28T11:57:57+00:00

Taken from https://twitter.com/TellYourSonThis/status/1210605870914179072?s=19 and below:

Add a healthy dose of environmentalism to the equation as well, talk about how there's already far too many people on this planet

Then, when you don't have enough workers to pay for the old, enact an unvoted on mass immigration policy to boost tax receipts & destroy the culture.

Brainwash the women into believing they were oppressed, make them distrust men, this will help lower their fertility and marginalise their people, thus eroding their nation. When families begin to break up, government can swell in size and power to replace the father as provider.

Religion is good at promoting fertility and intact family structures - so it is an impediment to the goal to destroy nation.

Religion which helps the people should be replaced by ideological dogma which divides & undermines them - we'll focus on oppression and power structures.

To achieve this, we'll undermine religion by actively encouraging atheism, particularly among the high IQ, as to elicit nihilistic degeneracy & exert a dysgenic effect on breeding, meanwhile we'll use universities as a vehicle for spreading the ideological dogma that supplants it

the-lone-squid · 2019-12-28T13:19:25+00:00

Then the next 10 years paying off that debt while only making a modest wage at some office job they hate lol

Obio1 · 2019-12-28T14:59:52+00:00

Oh it's worse than that. It's not just "4 years". In the US, women wait literally until the last possible moment of their fertility. Then they hope to flick a switch and have husbands swarm around them.

Those women that do manage to attract a husband in the twilight of their fertility often see their bodies destroyed by childbirth. Unlike 20 year old mothers, whose bodies 'bounce back', mothers in their thirties tend to be physically wrecked by the experience. This reduction in physical attractiveness ensures fewer births and often shorter marriages -- because like it or not, men of all ages are attracted to women who are 20. (Yes, 20: https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/ ... Despite what fashion magazines tell women about beautiful 40 year olds. It simply isn't true statistically. Over 25 is not nearly as attractive. Over 30 just isn't -- cherry-picked examples aside).

Beauty may be a social construct. But sexy isn't. Sexy is bound to youth. More specifically: To 20. And every year after that is a steep drop.

From a male perspective, marriage to a woman over the age of 26 presents drastically reduced value proposition: Instead of a beautiful wife for 10 years, men today sign up for a year or two of faded looks (if even that) and a fast-track to physical decline after birth.

Making matters worse, the vast majority of women are mentally and emotionally incapable of falling in love with men who earn less than they do. They just can't do it. They will deny this point until the cows come home, but the facts don't lie: Female doctors do not marry male nurses. Female pilots do not marry male air hosts. Female restaurant owners don't marry male waiters.

The gender opposite is not just possible -- it's everywhere.

The behavioral programming of females to seek 'more powerful' men is buried deep in our human DNA. No amount of feminism is going to purge it, any more than feminism will purge male attraction to 20 year old females. It turns out, instinct is powerful stuff. Feminism treats human sexuality as intrinsically malleable, expecting men to ignore their natural desire. (An ironically non-liberal premise).

As women pursue careers and higher education in larger numbers, the pool of men who are more successful than they are (and therefore attractive to them) winnows.... Ensuring their eventual dissatisfaction.

Consider that most college graduates are female today. That means there will be an increasing number of college educated women who won't be able to find a college educated male. And these women probably won't even start looking until they're in their late 20's.

In short, Western women have fucked themselves. And guess who gets to hear about their dissatisfaction: We do.

Walk away. Get a dog.

PrinceAladdin · 2019-12-28T13:27:43+00:00

Don't give a fuck . let it all burn. like working for millionaires and making them money while most people's health suffers and they can't even afford a house.

and even if they do they have so many expenses for a child and a wife that he basically works 80hours a week and looks worst than fat joe .

Sorry man Fuck the establishment. Fuck the plantation. and Fuck all religious cunts that use all this to control us.

Cuntfart9000 · 2019-12-28T15:25:41+00:00

It’s a good thing women liberated themselves from the horrible oppression of being able to stay home all day playing with their own children while a husband works his ass off all day in order to provide for all her wants and needs. That must have been SO AWFUL for those poor oppressed women!

Now they are free to be wage slaves while paying a stranger to raise their children!

Congratulations, ladies! You did it!

the_great_potato2 · 2019-12-28T13:44:02+00:00

At this point, I don’t care anymore. Why should I? At least I can invest my money into pursuing what I want to do with my life.

charvey709 · 2019-12-28T13:34:01+00:00

I mean, I'm not for treating women like a brood mare, but biology and other science doesnt lie.

scaramellozzi · 2019-12-28T13:54:51+00:00

Also fatherless children will not learn how to fight, instead they will learn to just complain without taking action.

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ColonelGray · 2019-12-28T14:47:41+00:00

Why do I give a fuck? Less people on an already overpopulated planet? Good.

DangZagnut · 2019-12-28T14:26:05+00:00

Maybe the government should t be so inept they their policies aren’t based on the complete destruction of all its resources blindly while basing everything on a constantly growing population.

Nations destroy themselves by being greedy and retarded.

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U-94 · 2019-12-28T15:18:39+00:00

I'm already here though and I like this whole 'less children' thing. Sell the kids to the space military and make Earth a child-free VIP section.

Futuredanish · 2019-12-28T16:02:31+00:00

And a huge dose of socialist indoctrination while they’re at it.

Dorinus2 · 2019-12-28T18:39:41+00:00

The best way to destroy a society is to give any women the ability to destroy and men's life at her whim.

When the bread earners of society will find themselves behind bars nobody will make and produce goods.

Mich like communism

Fantoche_Dreemurr · 2019-12-28T15:02:54+00:00

Not just that but when they will be ready to "settle down" they will be angry and bitter that their gamble isn,t paying off, their sexual market value plumetted and they need medical help to conceive, with a huge chance of producing downies

frankmarlowe · 2019-12-28T18:32:50+00:00

Tradcons gonna trad lol

Trant2433 · 2019-12-28T20:37:27+00:00

4 years of study and 4 for their career?

Come to DC or NYC. All women have 7+ years of undergrad, master, and internships.

In their mid 20s they’re just starting their careers and having fun. By 30, they’re finally moving up the government or corporate ladder, and now it’s time to really give everything to their career.

Maybe at 34 they’re finally noticing that a bunch of Facebook friends have little kids already starting school, and then it’s time to find the nice guy. Based on my own anecdotes, a lot of them are still looking at 40...

2019-12-28T16:29:31+00:00

If you address this topic without mentioning (((who))) orchestrates this situation, you'd better not address it

thefudmaster · 2019-12-28T18:33:59+00:00

Gents, no need to worry about religion. If it works for you, then go for it. If it doesn’t, don’t go for it. We are distracted from the main point of this article.

The woman who focuses on a career and the carousel will never be happy. The woman who has a family and then cheats because she didn’t have enough “good sex” is never happy.

There needs to be consequences for destroying a family from either the male or the female. No fault divorce destroyed accountability.

Bottom line is that women are never happy no matter what. Islam was right about women.

HWGA_Gallifrey · 2019-12-28T17:20:52+00:00

...and it's working.

Thegriswolf95 · 2019-12-28T18:03:42+00:00

I don’t quite understand the logic in this. It seems to imply that one can’t aspire for career goals and relationship/family goals simultaneously.

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Aidynskullz · 2019-12-28T14:17:41+00:00

South Korea might be the first to fall though not completely on the same basis as OPs post

Compostable-Account · 2019-12-28T16:44:43+00:00

lol imagine unironically thinking this is somehow going to preserve ur culture 😂😂😂

EcloVideos · 2019-12-28T18:43:26+00:00

In the words of Buckminster fuller:

"The historical consequence of this eons-ago-commenced employment of this grand strategy of 'divide to conquer and keep divided to keep conquered' accounts for the 'natural' acceptance today by world peoples of the seemingly 'God-given' existence of 150 sovereign nations of the world and their respective geographical division of all the world's dry land (as well as for all the specialized categories of human activities)".

hydration-station · 2019-12-28T19:14:29+00:00

Good shit lets cut down the population

2019-12-28T19:30:02+00:00

Hmmm this sounds a bit Incel to be honest. Our focus should be helping men, if women don’t want kids or want to pursue a career or whatever the fuck they want is not our problem.

Again, we should be helping men!

dialecticwizard · 2019-12-28T19:44:10+00:00

This is a tendency in capitalism no one can reverse.

thrill_gates · 2019-12-28T19:48:22+00:00

I thought this sub was about men being independent from women. But apparently not

dangerisky · 2019-12-28T20:02:04+00:00

Yep take a bath hippie your Times up.

InhaleItBoy · 2019-12-29T00:04:43+00:00

Blahblahblah, really society is structured as it is and the product of developed countries is fewer children and getting children in your 30's rather than doing as every third world country and having babies at earlier stages.

Alpha_Black_Knight · 2019-12-29T00:56:47+00:00

Time to sit back and watch it all crumble.

jasonlee3071 · 2019-12-29T01:06:01+00:00

You know also that this could also apply to men in the MTOW group? It takes two to tango. If one partner refuses to dance for whatever reason then there is no tango. So being an MGTOW man means I don't want to tango and I don't feel the need to. No need to put up with a marriage or having a family. I just want to be myself.

UnrelentingMgtow · 2019-12-29T01:49:32+00:00

Who would have THOT? 😂🤣😂🤣

roflcopt0rz_returns · 2019-12-29T02:24:15+00:00

The most bluepilled and politically correct way to explain why empowering women results in no kids is to explain that women cannot be in two places at once. They either raise kids, OR they go to school + work. Then tack on the idea that women can have healthy kids past ~35 is a myth disproven with science, and a dangerous myth at that.

Obviously, this is only a partial truth (raising kids isn't actually that fucking hard, but women as a collective are so incompetent that taking care of kids is basically a full time job for them... however if you frame it like I did, you keep up the illusion of "taking care of kids is so hard" that bluepillers believe in) and leaves out many other factors that empowering women causes (e.g. voting for more socialist/leftist policies while kicking fathers out of their lives) but this is the simplest and most vanilla way to explain it and to try and drop the tiniest red pill onto the audience, and it is framed in a way that places absolutely no blame or responsibility on women. It is essentially saying "there are only 24 hours in a day and women don't know fucking Kage Bunshin no Jutsu, and women scientifically have problems birthing kids once they're past their fertility window". Funny enough, some soyboys are so cucked they STILL somehow construe this as an attack on women and flail madly at me, but this does help get some blue pillers in the door, moreso than if I said something like "women are gold digging whores lol".

RedpillEatingMonk · 2019-12-29T02:41:53+00:00

The best way.

The only way

Zachjsrf · 2019-12-29T04:44:35+00:00

Sounds like something a tradcuck would say

Rollbar · 2019-12-29T05:05:05+00:00

Does anyone believe there are not enough people on the planet? I am always told I should be very worried about this crisis and that problem but really?

zellyman · 2019-12-29T05:18:28+00:00

Yes cause we know women go barren at the ripe old age of.... 26.

thelookoutbelow · 2019-12-29T11:52:48+00:00

This is a crypto tradcon contention. Why all the upvotes

JihadNinjaCowboy · 2019-12-30T13:52:50+00:00

Rich globalists support policies that weaken and destroy nations because it gives them more money and power, and atomizes their enemies.

Mr_M0t0m0 · 2019-12-31T23:58:31+00:00

Stay off the plantation gents!! Non Servium.

SuperbrImaging · 2020-01-06T00:22:57+00:00

Hags I know who are getting married at 35+ are finding out they can't have kids no matter how much fertility treatment they're getting.

Who would've thought.

laptopdragon · 2019-12-28T14:02:33+00:00

on top of that, the later a female spawns a crotch goblin, the more likely it (^{insert modern pronoun here}) is to have severe impairments.

JohnPettimore · 2019-12-28T15:10:31+00:00

To make it really effective, convince the women who would help raise the most prosperous, solid, effective families that instead, they should work at a law firm or become VP of Marketing somewhere. If they had instead focused on their children and their families they could become independent. They could think for themselves. They could raise their kids as they saw fit. But instead, train them to want to work sixty hours a week, neglect their husbands, and then feel guilty because they're not Marissa Mayer. Who, by the way, can "do it all" because she has an army of highly-paid help. That will absolutely handicap their kids, and them, and help solidify your control. Particularly if the divorce rate is 50% -- the chances of the ones who could really cause trouble doing anything are vastly less if they're single moms or, best of all, don't have kids at all. Then you own them.

JMS3259 · 2019-12-28T19:51:29+00:00

Most women lose fertility by late 40s, so the idea that an extra 8 years of doing stuff they actually want to do is causing a fall in birth rates is just absurd

2019-12-28T20:51:05+00:00

Yeah, let's call it "study."

nveritax · 2019-12-28T21:53:07+00:00

Lol this was so painful to read

Women being liberated is necessary to increase the overall wealth and prosperity of a country (UNwomen.org)

Some women want careers, some want families, some want both.

I can't believe this post honestly. At least you guys will ward off any fertile woman from coming near you 😂

AlsoColuphid · 2019-12-28T16:11:28+00:00

Now who's the group doing the destroying?

Hint hint

clear_pepsi · 2019-12-28T17:20:37+00:00

Why does MGOTW care about female fertility? I thought the whole deal was no chicks and buying dope motorcycles or whatever

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Title	This one is solid
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Date	December 28, 2019 11:56 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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