Equality is...

_BlueShark87 · 2022-11-02T11:24:02+00:00

This is why we exist and are still fighting. Thank you for the rallying post.

Dramatic-Essay-7872 · 2022-11-02T11:24:16+00:00

Professional women athlete's are around as good as 15 year old boys for most sports (18 year old boys for marathons), yet women demand to be paid the same as professional men, not the 15 year old boys who regularly beat them.

case dismissed - paid more than the men

us soccer settles

Men and women make babies together, but 100% of the decision on the life of the foetus is legally the woman's. The man has no rights, but must pay child support if she chooses to have the child. Sometimes, a foetus is a man's last chance of children, and he still gets no rights.

If a man removes a condom during sex, that (quite rightly) is rape... but if a woman damages a condom before sex or self-impregnates with a used condom, she is legally innocent but the man has to pay child support for 18 years for a kid he might not even be allowed to see.

A woman lying about paternity and deceiving a man into spending decades paying for and loving a child, isn't a criminal offence.

obviously all that should be adjusted in the justice system

Women who are not able to do equal work (e.g. Most of the building trade, Firefighters, Army, Police, warehouse work etc.) demanding equal pay.

to be fair public social care, public health care and universal basic income are branded as socialism... it would be beneficial for everybody if more women join said jobs and more men become stay at home dads for various reasons... maybe take a look at the ministry of equality from luxembourg and their policies to achieve a 1% pay gap...

Women expect men to pay for dates

preferences are ok BUT if you want a traditional man be a traditional women etc...

I am not sure I like "equality"

they are talking about equality but advocate for equity...

ThrowAway29307845034 · 2022-11-03T13:06:42+00:00

Based Facts.

adieucolette · 2022-11-08T12:01:59+00:00

Tip for men who don't want to be wrongfuly pushed into paternity: there are birth control methods for males (other than condoms). Heat-based methods are effective and reversible.

Birth control is not only a women's thing. Protect yourself.

sharksville · 2022-11-03T00:57:23+00:00

Because of all these stupidity, society and the penal system just makes a criminal out of a man, and then wonder why is the man a criminal and engaging in such activities. They make the man the bad guy because he doesn’t want to pay child support for a child he got after a woman spermjacked him, and they question themselves and the man as to why he’s being a terrible man and not paying child support for the child that’s basically a product of rape. When the man chooses not to work he’s forced into it to get an income but when it’s with the women, oh don’t worry. Even if you go work you don’t have to worry because the man can pay for the child while she can use that money to spend on luxury. Todays idea of equality is not women creating their own opportunities and equality, it’s taking it away from men. Basically there’s a cookie and there’s a man and a woman, the woman basically takes the whole cookie away from the man instead of dividing it equally of making another cookie

Marvinkmooneyoz · 2022-11-03T02:24:45+00:00

I dont know how true your first point is, actually. I have heard enough women say, whoever asks for the date, pays. Of course, men are the vast majority the ones asking out the ladies, but thats on us

Particular-Bee-6244 · 2022-11-04T18:01:36+00:00

woman should not be in the military or firefighters when expected to carry over a certain amount of weight.

Terrible_Terrance · 2022-11-02T15:20:33+00:00

I don't think it's really fair to label equality like this, there has been some serious issues with inequality, like the fact that a woman couldn't legally have their own credit cards, sue for sexual harassment, and way more.

Equality is more than just a subsection of women who use the term as a way to manipulate men, just like how there were a huge subsection of men who used inequality as a way to literally control women as if they were objects.

I personally won't get upset at things like women expecting men to pay for dates because so many men view it as a bad thing if they do. The ones that actually try to split the bill or pay for it are labeled as "Feminists" and called all sorts of names. I feel like there should be some middle ground when talking about equality. You shouldn't just condemn the whole thing because there has been a huge problem with gender inequality, I mean like hell there was a time women couldn't even wear pants. It wasn't *that* long ago.

SamaelET · 2022-11-03T00:10:08+00:00

Women who expect to have equal say in romantic relationships with men and share chores equally while expecting men to protect them if assaulted or if they hear a sound at the door.

DialecticSkeptic · 2022-11-03T02:34:20+00:00

Equality is ...

... abandoned in favor of equity.

Tragically.

StraightAnswers99 · 2022-11-03T03:27:06+00:00

Give the man, a god damn Upvote fellas

Battystearsinrain · 2022-11-02T20:35:45+00:00

The baby thing is a tough one as men do not have to carry the child. Women have a larger vested interest.

PrudentTemperature72 · 2022-11-03T03:56:28+00:00

equality is a scam, it's not real, feminists want enlightenment

bakalabalak · 2022-11-02T19:30:28+00:00

Women expect men to pay for dates.

Not all women. Also, is this such a big deal? If you hate it that much, don't date women who expect you to pay.

Women who are not able to do equal work (e.g. Most of the building trade, Firefighters, Army, Police, warehouse work etc.) demanding equal pay.

What are you talking about? Women demand equal pay for the same job where men get paid more. Two firefighters that have the same rank and differ in gender should absolutely get paid the same or similarly.

Men and women make babies together, but 100% of the decision on the life of the foetus is legally the woman's.

That is because the foetus is literally residing in the body of the woman. Not the man.

but must pay child support if she chooses to have the child.

Lol and if the child is born they run away and refuse to pay child support either way. Anyway, at this point there is a human baby that was the result of his choices, and needs support to live. Not paying child support, even if you didn't want the baby, is a terrible thing to do because at this point it is against the innocent child. Get a vasectomy if you don't want children.

Sometimes, a foetus is a man's last chance of children, and he still gets no rights.

Unless the man is carrying the child in his stomach for 9 months, and then gives birth to it, I don't see why he should have any say.

but if a woman damages a condom before sex or self-impregnates with a used condom, she is legally innocent but the man has to pay child support for 18 years for a kid he might not even be allowed to see.

This is illegal and unfortunate, but how would it be proven otherwise? It's a "your word against mine" type scenario. There is no way to win. The only way against this is to bring your own condom, and be responsible and safe.

A woman lying about paternity and deceiving a man into spending decades paying for and loving a child, isn't a criminal offence.

I don't know why you think this. It is absolutely a criminal offense and is called paternity fraud. There are thousands of cases for this every year. It's very sad that this happens, but there really is no solution because there is no way to prove whether a man is lying or the woman is lying.

Professional women athlete's are around as good as 15 year old boys for most sports (18 year old boys for marathons), yet women demand to be paid the same as professional men, not the 15 year old boys who regularly beat them.

There are very few people demanding this, and I don't see how this negatively effects men. This is such a small problem that impacts an even smaller and niche group of people. I truly don't get how this is something making mens lives worse in general.

Overall everything you listed either wasn't a problem, or is just how life works. There's no discrimination to men in anything you listed.

gamerlololdude · 2022-11-02T20:25:25+00:00

No bro women don’t expect men to pay on dates. What country you in? Split like adults and stop being sexist. This is not gender inclusive. Do you think lesbians just don’t pay and gay men both pay or what is going on with your mindset.

Women can very much do equal work. There are enough tools to that pure brute force needed for a job is in such minority of jobs it’s like saying that people in a wheelchair are unable to work when they can contribute to society in many ways. There exist men weaker than women, it isn’t like the weakest man is stronger than the strongest woman. So what you want to claim that weaker men, these weaker humans who happen to be men, are inferior or something.

Push for the development of artificial wombs. Anyways no one should have to go through childbirth it is violent. Child support struggles is a US thing, Canada acknowledges that people can opt out parenting for example.

In Canada both situations with damaging condom and removing condom count as sexual assault. It is criminal.

Sports are a biased field to physical prowess due to being designed by cis men. Like there are sports where men and women can compete equally but for some reason society focuses on the ones where cis men have an advantage. You see this with eSports being shit on. All sports are just elaborate games. And it is an entertainment field when done professionally. Think about why certain games are deemed superior to others. You will start seeing the ingrained sexism.

SubmissivePickmegirl · 2022-11-02T22:02:15+00:00

I don't need equality. I appreciate the basic human rights that were given to people to live a simple life, but this equality drama is too much headache.

The issues around secret abortion and pregnancy fraud are outrageous and vile.

ferry_forbear · 2022-11-02T20:24:12+00:00

The one where men are expected to date isn't really an injustice, traditionally men have always needed to provide for women as they are the stronger or some shit idk biblically speaking too, men's role with women was to provide for them. You make a solid point about the athlete part, you really do. I do find it strange, but I guess this can be explained because woman and men are separate divisions , women don't have the same physical capabilities as men so it makes sense because it's still more impressive than the 15 year old boys because they naturally are weaker. But i agree with every other point you have

izzzy12k · 2022-11-02T21:11:44+00:00

Women expect men to pay for dates.

I have no problem with this, if things are real...

Women who are not able to do equal work (e.g. Most of the building trade, Firefighters, Army, Police, warehouse work etc.) demanding equal pay.

I dunno, I have seen some women in those trades who get much respect for their work ethic and quality of work... This might be a tough one to argue your point on.

The rest, yeah.. that version of equality is not what it's supposed to be.

Ko_oK_24685 · 2022-11-02T15:26:42+00:00

Sounds like a bunch of crying topped off by the misogynistic “professional women athletes are around as good as 15 year old boys for most sports”

Really just pretty much sums up most of this sub

Particular-Bee-6244 · 2022-11-03T03:22:25+00:00

men should pay.

Just_Luck_5495 · 2022-11-03T12:45:27+00:00

Just another pointless rant. Typical of this sub.

Particular-Bee-6244 · 2022-11-04T18:00:15+00:00

Only an insane lady would entrap a man to have their child. Freeze your eggs and have the child on your own. I was under the impression children are born out of love and not mistakes?

Title	Equality is...
Author	NameIs-Already-Taken
Upvotes	211
Comments	148
Date	November 2, 2022 10:36 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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