Finally, a bone tossed for men...

bwolf457 · 2013-04-16T03:18:26+00:00

As a male student nurse I'm blown away by the complete lack of male nursing scholarships...also the lack of respect.

My school offers approximately 45 scholarships. I qualified 2 of them (the only two that didn't say women only) and I was denied both, seeing as there are only 4 total guys in my entire program and they also didn't get them where the fuck did that money go!? WHERE I ASK YOU!

Pecanpig · 2013-04-16T03:47:37+00:00

I am 100% opposed to this. We are supposed to be for equality not discrimination.

imsorryiamcanadian · 2013-04-16T00:03:50+00:00

In case you can't tell, it is a scholarship for men and other under-represented individuals in nursing.

FuckingLoveArborDay · 2013-04-16T02:07:01+00:00

I actually know quite a few (female) nursing students. They say that it feels like a lot is being done to encourage men to join the nursing profession. A google search "men in nursing" or "men in nursing salaries" will reveal this to be true and in a lot of cases that men are actually being paid more than their female counterparts. Although I haven't read all of the literature, my (female) friend explains it as "sometimes as a nurse you have to lift something heavy. It helps to have someone who can lift something heavy."

intirb · 2013-04-16T02:20:37+00:00

I fully support this - a nurse is critically and intimately involved in patient care, and I imagine some male patients would feel more comfortable with male nurses. Plus, I believe there is a nursing shortage, so we should be recruiting from all potentially underutilized talent pools - which definitely includes men. Men have equal capacity to be nurses as women.

synnndstalker · 2013-04-16T03:22:23+00:00

It sucks being a guy in nursing. Even at top nursing schools you're viewed as strange for wanting to help people. Teachers look at you like you have two heads. Lecturers address the audience as "ladies" and cater the curriculum to women.

Todda468 · 2013-04-16T03:38:16+00:00

We should not be accepting this, when we say this is a good thing we are endirsing AA.

frazzleddd · 2013-04-16T04:37:01+00:00

Not to be negative but this is exactly the kind of stuff I can't stand! No inherent qualities about me whether they be racial or gender based should be beneficial to me getting something. Its unfair and is trying to level out something that may naturally be unleveled. This lets under qualified people in and creates more problems than the imaginary one it solves.

ClaudeKenni · 2013-04-16T07:31:14+00:00

An interesting discussion about this here, which I think shows how easy it is to confuse mens rights issues with political leanings.

Logically, there are three positions when it comes to mens rights on affirmative actions which result somehow in equality (or at least remove hypocrisy from the system). Either affirmative action is extended to men where they are the underrepresented or disadvantaged group (what I'd consider a left wing position), affirmative action is removed from women (what I'd consider a right wing position), or a mixture of the two, where men are included in affirmative action, but where it is reduced to only cover areas where there are serious inequalities, and nursing would probably be one of these, as the percentage of male nurses is less than 10% (what I'd consider a centrist position).

Now the truth is I'd be happier with any of these positions compared to the current situation. Once these discussions become just based on political preference, rather than having to deal with hypocrisy in the system, society will be in a much better state for everyone. The MRM should be careful not to push too hard towards any particular political philosophy for this reason.

2013-04-16T15:00:01+00:00

I thought we were against this sort of thing, not wanting to be included in it.

allymumu · 2013-04-16T05:34:31+00:00

I go to that school as well. I wouldn't say they're looking out for anyone, they just want the money.

CosmicKeys · 2013-04-16T02:50:12+00:00

Excellent stuff, as someone who has no problem with AA it's is important to recognize the fact that feminism is pushing these sorts of policies blindly out of place. I think men in early childcare is the other major area of disadvantage for men who face stigma for going against gender roles.

It is a hard problem to solve though. Here the incentive is money - the issue is though that many women choose these kinds of professions as much for the non-monetary benefits of working with and helping people, of which if we men are often not recognized for as women are. Nursing faces a "glass escalator" effect where men are actually promoted faster than female nurses. Part of this may simply be they are capable of harder physical work, but I would more likely put it down to men still facing the pressure to earn and provide for families when they cannot simply rest on their gender laurels.

An important start though.

2013-04-16T03:17:57+00:00

My ex-husband benefited from something like this while applying for graduate school. The fellowship he applied for was meant for minority/disadvantaged students, including men, who are underrepresented in the school's graduate program.

jsquare17 · 2013-04-16T03:37:24+00:00

I stayed at Linfield before. Totally irrelevant

GuddahBuddah · 2013-04-16T04:11:46+00:00

I wonder if I know OP. o.o

gotholga · 2013-04-16T06:01:06+00:00

I didn't read anything but just wanted to say every hospital visit I've had the male nurses go above and beyond, while for the most part the female nurses seem to just want to get away. This is all personal experience, nothing against female or male nurses, I'm sure there are male nurses that don't want to do much and female nurses that are amazing.

Humansteaks03 · 2013-04-16T06:14:00+00:00

Woo! Linfield is ten minutes from me! Fuckin' shit!

InterNetting · 2013-04-16T07:31:31+00:00

Male nurses are in high demand. Many patients are not comfortable with a female nurse. 6 figures is not uncommon for well educated male nurses.

ShaidarHaran2 · 2013-04-16T14:19:09+00:00

I had wondered about this. I'm in computer science, and needless to say women are a very small minority here, and they get a shittonne more scholarships than the plethora of men here. I wondered if in fields where the ratios were reversed if there would be similar incentives for men.

bpowers5211 · 2013-04-16T15:33:53+00:00

As a murse I applaud this. Quite a lot of males in my department but overall we make up less than 7%. It's a great profession and it pays well. Fyi every male from my program had a job before graduation while quite a few of the women had hard times.

Fokillew · 2013-04-16T15:54:20+00:00

I'm dead set against AA; but I've got to admit this is emotionally satisfying.

stop_stalking_me · 2013-04-16T02:30:38+00:00

How long until the outrage over "sexism"? Yet this kind of thing for women is all over STEM fields.

Sarstan · 2013-04-16T04:33:18+00:00

Nursing scholarships are practically the only ones available for men. his really isn't anything special.

magik_carp · 2013-04-16T05:49:53+00:00

Hell Yeah, LINFIELD! I'm on the portland campus right now! Male Nurses Represent!

Title	Finally, a bone tossed for men...
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Upvotes	576
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Date	April 16, 2013 12:02 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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