I might have differences with this subreddit as a 16 year old girl but r/all today on Jordan Peterson saddens me

Psycedilla · 2022-09-30T09:00:04+00:00

Why might we having diffrences? Is mens rights incompatible with being a 16 year old girl? We're open to anyone that respect our views.

GrandSwamperMan · 2022-09-30T10:43:21+00:00

I have basically zero interest in JBP, but am entertained by how pissed off people get at his daring to suggest that they take responsibility for their own lives.

Alarming_Draw · 2022-09-30T19:43:01+00:00

Jordan is an expert and speaks out against toxic feminism.

Of COURSE he was going to be hated on by feminist media.

rahsoft · 2022-09-30T07:30:19+00:00

Perhaps you can give some examples that you are concerned with, because we don't want to read through it all. Then if you want, we can discuss it here?

Suka87 · 2022-09-30T07:59:25+00:00

The feminist / liberal / woke movement have a single tactic that they use to discredit views that differ from their own. Ad hominem attacks. You need to be aware of it, and call them out for specifics against the argument he is making rather than label him in attempts to cancel him. He's done amazing things for men, its not us vs them, its him seeing a desperate cry for help, and helping.

Example of a ad hominem attack:
After Sally presents an eloquent and compelling case for a more equitable taxation system, Sam asks the audience whether we should believe anything from a woman who isn't married, was once arrested, and smells a bit weird.

AutobanThrowaway · 2022-09-30T06:42:40+00:00

I'm pretty well balanced on the fence about JP; a lot of what he says is insightful, a lot of the other stuff is foolish. Cherry picking his takes is important, but some people can't do that, they can't separate his fundamentalist Christian values from his understanding of human psychology.

The memes are top quality though, he should do merch. I'd buy a lobster shirt.

Yoramus · 2022-09-30T11:12:57+00:00

That's a bit cliche' but if you are a minimally thoughtful and intellectually independent person you will notice that the people you see as worthy to be considered models are typically not very popular in "generalist" circles like r/all.

And as you get more and more mature and you strengthen your views you start giving less and less thoughts about what other people think. As a 16 year old girl you still have some years of getting used to that but afterwards it just won't bother you. You seem to be on the good path, you say you are saddened and not angry. That means you probably accepted that there is really nothing you can do about huge swaths of the population having different views.

Anyways, this sub is very intellectually diverse. For example in the polls you find that there is approximately the same number of self-described rightwing people here as leftwing ones. Some people here are shallow, some are insightful, some even agree with feminism or with some forms of it. Even demographically there are here men and women, married and unmarried, young and old. I dare say it is much more intellectually diverse than r/all . So you might find your perceived differences with this sub are smaller than the differences that already exist between people in this sub.

Surv1ver · 2022-09-30T11:09:06+00:00

Is it the Piers Morgan interview?

Algoresball · 2022-09-30T15:19:19+00:00

The root of it is this flawed idea that therapy is a strictly a science. Sure things like CBT are “ evidence based” but that doesn’t mean it’s best for everyone. Different approaches work for different people. His approach might not work for everyone but that doesn’t mean it’s not helpful to a lot of people.

Longjumping_Joke_751 · 2022-10-01T00:37:44+00:00

If I may ask, what differences you might have w r/MensRights?

NoIdeasForNameLol · 2022-09-30T05:14:50+00:00

Before you ask me what differences I hold with this subreddit, read the title again

caolex · 2022-10-01T03:34:32+00:00

I can’t see him as anything more than a religious quack like my dad.

_BlueShark87 · 2022-09-30T20:08:27+00:00

Why we having differences in cool with anyone as long as I haven’t met you. When I meet you I most likely start hating you because I do. Don’t ask me why. But normally I hate everyone on sight. No exceptions so far. Except maybe my family I can’t remember that far back.

Foxsayy · 2022-09-30T13:14:06+00:00

I had high expectations when JP debuted; unfortunately, the man truly is a pseudo intellectual, and even at his best always has been. When he actually engaged in talks with real philosophers he rarely shined, and had a habit of repeatedly dodging questions asking him to define his own terms, and tended to coopt commonly used terms and repurpose them without explicitly saying so.

It's still sad to see what he's become...which is a far cry worse than he might have been. He seems different since he had an induced coma in Russia to get over his opiod addiction (and yes, he was still preaching about how to be a strong man and handle life during this time), and he is known to have sustained brain damage, though it isn't known to what extent. Even before this, he routinely overstepped his expertise, seeming to disagree even with climate scientists on global warming.

All in all, I had high hopes for Jordan Peterson, but he was always a shadow of the figure I hoped he would be.

MeowShareowner · 2022-10-01T00:25:30+00:00

Differences? Let me guess: You're pro-choice ONLY for women.

Yeah, that's a difference. We're gonna verbally and politically fight about that.

SweetAccomplished542 · 2022-10-01T03:52:11+00:00

Reddit is such bull shit. Is this actually a 16 year old girl? How does she moderator status? I really don’t trust this propaganda machine.

Title	I might have differences with this subreddit as a 16 year old girl but r/all today on Jordan Peterson saddens me
Author	NoIdeasForNameLol
Upvotes	166
Comments	74
Date	September 30, 2022 5:12 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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