The Atlantic: What If Men Stopped Chasing Much-Younger Women? - Hugo Schwyzer. [Can you believe the Atlantic published this clown?]

AvgGuy101 · 2013-05-18T11:46:53+00:00

Chasing? I'm a middle aged guy with a daughter in college and I don't have to "chase" younger women, there seem to be plenty of younger women who prefer older men and who aren't shy about letting me know it. I'm currently taking a break from the dating scene so that I can focus on some other matters without any drama and distractions but I am sure that I wouldn't have to "chase" after younger women to find one to date. I meet them virtually every day just doing normal stuff.

If it's such a bad thing for younger women to be involved with older men then maybe someone should be talking with these young women?

jolly_mcfats · 2013-05-18T05:59:16+00:00

I honestly can't believe more feminists don't call schwyzer out on his patriarchal shit. Maybe what he says is just so deeply comforting. Older Men (subject) do this (verb) to younger women (object). No, it's not because young women are pretty and have firm flesh. Of course it has nothing to do with the pressures of your biological clock interfering with a comfortable pace in a relationship. It's just you're too strong for these older men. And they really should just man up. This sucks, and men need to fix it for you.

In fact, these older men are leaving their wives for younger women. They aren't suddenly single after having been divorced

The real irony? Hugo Schwyzer is one of those men who needs to stop chasing younger women. Actually, if he just chased them in a healthy manner, that would be an improvement.

OuiCrudites · 2013-05-18T14:41:09+00:00

Hugo Schwyzer has admitted to attempted murder of an ex-girlfriend and also to seducing numerous students of his while a college instructor.

We should all write to The Atlantic and ask them why such a man is relaying dating advice in their magazine.

CrossHook · 2013-05-18T16:40:50+00:00

Hugo got it backwards.

Younger women chase older guys, dummy.

MRB2012 · 2013-05-18T19:11:53+00:00

As hyperbolic as it may sound, there are few more powerful actions that men can take to transform the culture than to date, mate, and stay with their approximate chronological peers.

Older men can't have children with their chronological peers.

Stars like Liam Neeson and Tom Cruise age slowly, if at all, out of sex symbol status.

That's because they don't show many physical signs of aging. Some guys get lucky in terms of genetics and get to look young for a long time. Case in point: Brad Pitt. If Hugo wasn't a moron, he would understand this.

What seems harmless and natural, however, is neither. A culture in which older men value younger women more than their own female peers does damage to everyone.

No it doesn't.

This is about the way in which young women come of age surrounded by reminders that they are at their most desirable when they are still at their most uncertain and insecure.

That's because they are. 40 year old women are not as attractive sexually as 20 year old women, unless you're Benjamin Franklin.

Many people who concede that older men's obsession with younger women is disillusioning and destabilizing insist that the sexual choices of men like Johnny Depp are driven by natural imperatives.

Old women can't give a man children. Young women can. This is basic biology.

According to the science, Depp was better matched with Paradis (nine years his junior) than with the new girlfriend.

Paradis was 40. If she's capable of having kids, and she may well not be, they would have a higher chance of birth defects such as Down's syndrome.

So if older men aren't pursuing much younger women because of evolutionary hardwiring, why do they?

Young women are still in their physical prime. They haven't lost their beauty to age.

Men who chase younger women aren't eroticizing firmer flesh as much as they are a pre-feminist fantasy of a partner who is endlessly starry-eyed and appreciative.

I'm pretty sure it's firmer flesh.

The dead giveaway comes when you ask middle-aged men why they prefer to date younger; almost invariably, you'll hear complaints that their female peers are too entitled, too embittered, too feminist.

Do you have any studies to back this up?

If the older man/younger woman dynamic is less "natural" and more destructive than we imagined, how then to respond to couples that make that dynamic work? When I've written about this subject in the past, I'm invariably challenged by young women with boyfriends their fathers' age, demanding that I stop judging their love. I always reply that it's possible to wish individuals well while still critiquing the context in which those individuals made their choices. It's like attending the wedding of a couple that gets together as the result of an affair: One can wish them every happiness without endorsing what led them there.

You don't get to talk Huey von Studentfucker.

I'm not proposing that we shame every age-disparate couple. I am proposing that we challenge heterosexual middle-aged men to direct their sexual and romantic energies to their female peers

Younger women are hotter. Why ignore that?

MRB2012 · 2013-05-18T15:20:15+00:00

This man tried to murder his girlfriend at one point. He screwed his students when he was a college professor. Why exactly is he qualified to give life advice?

literallyschmiteraly · 2013-05-18T06:23:09+00:00

So there'd be more for Hugs? Self-serving or what?

TheDongerNeedsFood · 2013-05-18T14:40:28+00:00

What if women stopped chasing men only for their money? Yeah, doesn't sound so good now does it Hugo?

Aaod · 2013-05-18T22:44:43+00:00

I like how the article completely ignores the fact women have the choice to not date older men. It also says the women know they are at their most desirable at those ages meaning they know they have the power when the older guys do not in other words and yet they still refuse to acknowledge reality. This is literally blaming older men for having better status in society which would be akin to men blaming women for having desirable looks.

The article even admits the reason older men date younger women is not just looks but because of the attitude older women have or at least that is what they claim. Maaaaybe that means women need to change their behavior? It is like building a moat around yourself and complaining guys refuse to try and storm the castle or trying to be a porcupine and complaining no one will hug you. Remove the thorns and people will hug you.

Depression, the research shows, peaks for men in their mid-to-late 40s. In the face of statistics like those, middle-aged men can't afford to choose partners who lack the life experience to provide the right kind of challenge.

Why would you want a extra challenge when you are already depressed? It is like having two sets of stairs while carrying a heavy load which do you take the normal one or the one slick with grease?

If men over 40 spent half as much time mentoring guys under 30 as they do chasing women in that age bracket more young men might prove excellent partners to their female peers.

About the only thing I agreed with in the entire article male male mentoring is sadly very rare especially compared to female female mentoring. You try finding male professional mentoring good freaking luck.

Bookmarking this to send to a friend of mine with a preference for older men because I am curious her perspective on it.

EvilPundit · 2013-05-18T16:49:39+00:00

I didn't bother reading the article, but went straight to the comments. That's where anything actually worth reading could be found.

freakflagflies · 2013-05-18T20:09:22+00:00

It's funny because when I Googled this guy, the first result was an article in none other than the Atlantic that wasn't exactly complimentary.

giegerwasright · 2013-05-19T08:32:55+00:00

Last week, I met a friend downtown so we could go out drinking. He works as a caterer and we met outside of the place he was working. It was some college senior class party and I got to peek in while I waited for him to finish up. The women outnumbered the men by 3 or 4 to 1. So. There are a lot of younger women with advanced education, it seems.

just found that relevant.

2013-05-19T00:12:32+00:00

I've had only limited success chasing women. And then they're tired and have headaches. I recommend traps.

2013-05-19T01:51:09+00:00

To answer your question, yes. The Atlantic publishes a lot of garbage passed off as intellectual. Typically it's just unquestionably biased and lacking research.

rodvanmechelen · 2013-05-19T06:59:19+00:00

Several trends are converging to make chronological age irrelevant. Every man here needs to pay attention. In a few weeks I turn 60, and yet most of my male peers who are in their 40s are more aged than I am. What I am doing to slow and prevent aging is done on the cheap. When I can afford to go full tilt, the difference will become even more noticeable.

But first take note: by the year 2020 the shortage of women of childbearing age that is already being felt in Asia and India will begin to spread to the rest of the world. Men in their twenties and thirties will have increasing difficulty finding a wife. By the year 2050 the global population will peak, and then begin to fall due to this and other demographic trends. But the drop will be mitigated by developments in longevity medicine.

Regenerative medicine will really begin to take off within the next five years. Instead of organ transplants, medical technicians will simply grow new organs for you that are made from your own genetic material.

One of the leading causes of aging is cumulative inflammation. A derivative of tobacco is turning out to be one of the most powerful and effective anti-inflammatories, in clinical trials at pharmaceutical doses it is reversing diabetes and non-alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver, and shows promise at reversing early Alzheimer's; at nutraceutical doses people with arthritis are raving that it's a miracle cure.

My favorite websites, which every man here should learn to love, include the Life Extension Foundation, Life Enhancement, Dr. Jonathan V. Wright's Nutrition and Healing, Natural Health News, and Mark's Daily Apple. If you're financially well off, consider checking out Dr. Jerry Mixon's Longevity Medical Clinics, too.

Insofar as older men chasing much-younger women, most older men want the same thing they wanted when they were younger: a hot, young woman. Feminists, androphobes, feminazis, misandrists, hate-male campaigners, rape fantasy fear mongers, women's studies professors and pandering politicians call that sexist. The rest of us call it biology.

Title	The Atlantic: What If Men Stopped Chasing Much-Younger Women? - Hugo Schwyzer. [Can you believe the Atlantic published this clown?]
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Date	May 18, 2013 5:42 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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