The penalty for making false accusations should be a prison term equal to the maximum length of the one the accused could have been sentenced to.

pcarvious · 2011-10-28T07:08:00+00:00

There are two things that have to be kept in mind when trying to decide a length of a sentence. The first is the effectiveness as a deterrent. The second is the ability to get a conviction. A very severe punishment might be a good deterrent, but it is less likely to get a conviction. The opposite is also true. If the conviction is easy to get then the punishment is likely to be a slap on the wrist comparatively.

So, making the maximum sentence equal to that of rape would be a very good deterrent, but would be very few convictions for such cases.

Personally, I think malicious intent needs to be shown for someone to be charged with a false rape claim, otherwise you get people that may be charged with a crime because there was lack of evidence to support their claim of rape etc.

InfinitelyThirsting · 2011-10-28T15:22:49+00:00

It depends. You have to have some leniency for the people who admit it and come forward, otherwise you'll stop people who feel guilty, because they'll be too afraid. I'd rather save the falsely imprisoned that severely punish false accusers--but we currently treat false accusers far too lightly, so we do need to take some steps forward. Just not as far as you suggest.

instagata0 · 2011-10-28T03:49:50+00:00

I'll stick my thoughts into the firing line here. I disagree completely...

Instances of false accusation are far too complex to lump into this sort of treatment. They're far too complex to even discern whether or not they should be a criminal charge.

They should certainly be dealt with by the courts, but that's the extent to which we can make statements like these. Depending on the damage to a person's reputation and their future career and lifestyle prospects, these cases should be dealt with differently. As such, they should all be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.

/r/MR has a reputation on reddit for being extremist. Let's not validate that reputation, please...

eschermond · 2011-10-28T13:07:09+00:00

If one could reason that the only thing stopping some potential rapists from committing the crime is the threat of punishment, then couldn't one also reason that the same threat would stop a false accuser?

Rape is a crime, sadly falsely accusing someone of rape isn't (the crime becomes defamation, obstruction, etc.). It goes without saying that this is unfair.

cwill2517 · 2011-10-28T17:23:30+00:00

I would agree in a vacuum but this solution would create a even more perverse incentive structure. People who make false accusations would be even more unwilling to admit their lie given the harshness of the penalty. And given that this is one of the major ways that this situation is revealed many more innocents would remain incarcerated.

theozoph · 2011-10-29T18:00:04+00:00

We already have penalties for false accusations and slander. What is needed is for them to be fucking applied when the perp is a woman.

That is all.

Thumbz8 · 2011-10-28T03:41:14+00:00

What about a false "false accustation?"

NiceGuysSTFU · 2011-10-28T15:30:18+00:00

So the crime of perjury is now comparable to the violent crime of rape?

Chamoflage · 2011-10-28T06:06:02+00:00

The penalty for making false accusations should be whatever will most effectively prevent false accusations from being made.

Offensive_Brute · 2011-10-28T14:00:09+00:00

I think false accusations should be treated with the severity of perjury, even if they don't make it all the way to court.

In_Armor · 2011-11-01T21:56:05+00:00

Ridiculously stupid. Not a white night by anybodies imagination but it would prevent real rape victims coming forward because they would fear any kind of evidence against them could land them in jail for a long time.

Definately agree that some sort of punishment needs to be handed out. No doubt. Slap n the wrist is fuked.

burritosandbeer · 2011-10-28T13:08:08+00:00

Stratisphear · 2011-10-28T07:49:16+00:00

No, that's a bad idea. The fact is, women ARE raped, (certainly not as much as is commonly believed), and doing this would make it harder for them to try to get justice.

Title	The penalty for making false accusations should be a prison term equal to the maximum length of the one the accused could have been sentenced to.
Author	BeingDS
Upvotes	29
Comments	56
Date	October 28, 2011 1:56 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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