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This is something feminists don't do very often...

Yosuke_Hanamura

December 17, 2012

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Title	This is something feminists don't do very often...
Author	Yosuke_Hanamura
Upvotes	36
Comments	43
Date	December 17, 2012 10:18 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/150lpz/this_is_something_feminists_dont_do_very_often/
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[–]shadowbanned6 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

This does not seem to be a comparison

Feminists do not even call out Lorena Bobbitt for slicing off dicks. Or Andy Warhol shooters, women calling for gendercide and more.

Feminists ACTIVELY defend murderers who shoot sleeping husbands and invent "battered woman syndrome" in defense. Feminists actively support scientific falsification of Domestic Violence, false rape accusation statistics.

And you compare this to persecuting an MRA because he does not support "gay rights".

Supporting gay rights is a prerequisite to being an MRA?

MRA exclude others for petty offenses, split up and weaken the movement.

This same Paul Elam has expelled Jay Hammers for writing against arresting men for age of consent. Age of Consent is Misandry (jayhammers.blogspot.com)
He has expelled Human Stupidity for opposing arresting fathers for sending to Walmart photos of their babies in the bath, for opposing arrest for possession of a one's own private video when he jerked off at age 12 and for opposing child porn charges against a husband for photographing his 16 year old wife
I believe he also expelled theantifeminist for not supporting 10 year prison rape sentences of men for consensual sex with 15 year old

** Is it really so heroic to split up MRA into factions for fear of offending liberals, feminists, sexually conservatives, or the political correct crowd? *

Maybe we ought to post the rules for upstanding MRA's beliefs?

[–]Yosuke_Hanamura[S] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[+]shadowbanned6 -6 points-5 points-4 points 13 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Is the men's rights movement so dogmantic to disown and exclude a fathers rights activist who is anti gay?

This is why we get nowhere.

Splitting MRA into small factions. Disowning each other!!

While feminists of all colors and shades firmly work together to take over world government, to totally control men in divorce court, primary school, parliament, sex laws, rape laws, etc. MRA are worried about excluding a fellow MRA who is anti gay

Says AVM

Chris is the owner of Men’s Rights Online, a sort of crayon version of a blog, with true “MRM” categories for articles, like “fag enablers.”

Recently, Chris has taken to penning articles attacking one of our MRA contributors, Suz, as, you guessed it, a “fag enabler,” among other things.

Has anyone looked at this guy's forum and blog?

The blog does not seem to have much content at http://www.mens-rights.net/

The forum at http://www.mens-rights.net/forum/index.php has topics like

Domestic Violence Fatherhood Feminist Media Bias Circumcision

Each with thousands of posts.

Yes there is

The Militant Fag/Dyke Agenda

The media and its left-wing supporters are trying to force people into accepting faggotry and dykism. Talk about the issue here.

Have not heard of this guy before AVM made him well known.

So Paul Elam does not mention the numerous MRA issues this guy defends. Picks the one issue he does not like

Now a man supporting a lot of MRA issues but being anti-gay marriage, or even somewhat anti-gay needs to be totally disowned?

I did not know that being pro-homosexuality was a central requirement for being an mra?

I am not saying anything against gays and Lesbians. I am just asking.

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The MRM thinks that ordinary heterosexual males are subhuman, given that they support feminist punishments for men who are caught looking at pictures of 17 year old girls in bikinis (the average girl having completed puberty by 16), or support feminists raising of the age of consent across the world to 18.

Not that I'm giving any greater moral weight to what is 'ordinary' or 'natural', just pointing out that according to feminist definitions and laws, most men are paedophiles and the MRM supports this.

There are also men who are particularly drawn to teenagers and have no wish to marry or even pursue relationships with women above 20. The correct term for such men is hebophile. Because of feminist laws, this sexual minority are being persecuted relentlessly, treated worse than subhuman and just a couple of steps away from experiencing their own holocaust. All on the basis of feminist driven hysteria with no rational discussion allowed. Yet the men's rights movement is only too happy to not only ignore, but to hold hands with feminists in participating in this crime against humanity.

At least that anti-gay asshole isn't supporting a specifically feminist persecution of sexuality.

[–]Eryemil 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Not that I'm giving any greater moral weight to what is 'ordinary' or 'natural', just pointing out that according to feminist definitions and laws, most men are paedophiles and the MRM supports this.

This is bullshit. Paedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent minors.

There are also men who are particularly drawn to teenagers and have no wish to marry or even pursue relationships with women above 20. The correct term for such men is hebophile. Because of feminist laws, this sexual minority are being persecuted relentlessly, treated worse than subhuman and just a couple of steps away from experiencing their own holocaust. All on the basis of feminist driven hysteria with no rational discussion allowed. Yet the men's rights movement is only too happy to not only ignore, but to hold hands with feminists in participating in this crime against humanity.

Oh please, spare me your sob story. First of all, feminism has nothing to do with age of consent laws; that's more the result of American puritanism. The age of consent in most of Europe is 16 or lower.

This has nothing to do with the MRM any more than campaigning for gay rights does. If you want to have the right to fuck teenage girls, make your own movement.

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 13 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

I've met some idiots in the MRM but you take the biscuit.

This is bullshit. Paedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent minors.

This is my whole point. Feminists have re-defined paedophilia to mean anyone who is attracted to 17 year old 'children'.

First of all, feminism has nothing to do with age of consent laws; that's more the result of American puritanism.

A claim plucked straight from your ass, besides being typically Americentric. I've researched the origins of the age of consent laws and they were lobbied for by Suffragettes in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, in both the USA and the UK. In Europe and the never ending barrage of 'child protection' legislation, American puritanism has played a part, but the actual lobbying has been done almost entirely by radical feminist groups such as the NSPCC.

If you want to have the right to fuck teenage girls, make your own movement.

No thankyou, I'll follow in the footsteps of Ernest Belfort Bax, David Thomas, Angry Harry, Steve Moxon, and persist in the knowledge that feminists making crazy laws persecuting normal male heterosexuality is and always will be a men's rights issue.

You probably don't even know who any of those names are, do you?

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Even John the Other said here the other day that we're not and that we shouldn't want to be at this stage.

JohnTheOther is not the MRM, if anyone can be said to embody what we represent and is almost single-handedly responsible for making us relevant, it is Elam.

Also, John can be wrong like anyone else, if his recent forays into this subreddit are any clue.

Yea, wanting love and sex with your opposite instead of a narcisstic mirror image of yourself...it's called heterosexuality.

You can certainly have it. I'd rather be with someone that likes to fuck as often and as hard as I do, that enjoys rugby, Belgian beers and gaming as much as I do and is not a weak, fragile version of myself. You call it narcissism, I call it a joining of equals which is much more than what you seem to want out of a partner.

Well you certainy like to look at pictures of boys with undeveloped brains, given that boys develop later than girls (who are pretty much full developed at 14) and your devient art profile is full of pics of teenage boys.

First of all, I'm not asking anyone to validate my sexual quirks nor make them part of an important social movement. Secondly, most of the pictures on that account are of adult men and I've had it since I was sixteen years old; I am now 23 and have long since stopped visiting Deviantart with any frequency. I preferred older men even when I was a teen; I have many weird or potentially distasteful sexual interests but cradle robbing is not one of them.

EDIT: Also, liking something is not the same thing as believing you should be allowed to do so. Plenty of people have rape fantasies but I doubt many of them, on either side of the equation, want rape legalised.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

JohnTheOther is not the MRM, if anyone can be said to embody what we represent and is almost single-handedly responsible for making us relevant, it is Elam.

I think JohnTheOther probably speaks for Elam on this issue. And, btw, I agree that Elam has made the MRM relevant. And that was primarily through not pandering to mainstream acceptance on issues such as questioning rape culture and identifying violent feminist criminals who use intimidation in order to try to silence us. He has, however, definately began pandering to the mainstream in a big way by actively supporting the feminist child abuse industry.

I'd rather be with someone that likes to fuck as often and as hard as I do, that enjoys rugby, Belgian beers and gaming as much as I do and is not a weak, fragile version of myself.

Sounds like classical feminist power relations theory of sex. This is great. Homosexuals now telling heterosexuals that our sexuality is inferior and inherently more abusive than yours. And this is your version of men's rights?

So do you or do you not retract your support for the pederast and abuser Alan Turing?

First of all, I'm not asking anyone to validate my sexual quirks nor make them part of an important social movement.

You fucking would be if feminists were trying to criminalize any expression of homosexuality.

Secondly, most of the pictures on that account are of adult men and I've had it since I was sixteen years old;

So only a few of them are virtual child porn representing abusive love between men and boys? That's good. Hope you've removed all traces of those pictures from your harddrive. Just to be on the safe side, I'd think of deleting the account.

I preferred older men even when I was a teen

You're saying that you enjoyed being sexually abused by older men as a teen? This is crazy.

I have many weird or potentially distasteful sexual interests but cradle robbing is not one of them

Cradle robbing? Who said anything about babies? And I never even said that I wanted to fuck teenage girls, and nowhere did I say I wanted to fuck 14 year old girls. If feminists were persecuting homosexuals, I'd resist them with everything I had, and I assure you that I have absolutely no interest in sticking my cock up another man's rectum.

At least I don't want to fuck dead bodies. I guess that's your idea of an 'equal non-abusive relationship'.

Also, liking something is not the same thing as believing you should be allowed to do so

If you refer back to my original comment, you'll see I was primarily talking about how feminists have made even looking at a picture of a sexy 17 year old a criminal offence. This is pure thought crime.

Paedocrite.

[–]Eryemil2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Sounds like classical feminist power relations theory of sex.

Has nothing to do with power or abuse. Men are one the same wavelength when it comes to sex and they are more statistically likely to share interests. Yes, I do believe that—apart from ease of reproduction—homosexual relationships are superior but that has nothing to do with my involvement in the MRM.

So only a few of them are virtual child porn representing abusive love between men and boys?

There's literally not a single picture in that account that depicts sex between adult men and minors.

If you refer back to my original comment, you'll see I was primarily talking about how feminists have made even looking at a picture of a sexy 17 year old a criminal offence.

The cut off point for pornography has to be somewhere and not everyone's going to be pleased. I find the age of majority to be a sensible choice. It's not illegal to look at pictures of clothed females of any age.

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