What statistics are there for common arguments feminists like to use against us?

63daddy · 2025-01-15T17:07:47+00:00

When feminists were using biased survey information to claim 1:4 college women were raped, actual crime data put the number at about 6 per 1,000.

https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/rape-and-sexual-assault-among-college-age-females-1995-2013

The feminist Duluth Model claims men initiate almost all domestic violence but studies show women initiate at least as much as men, probably more:

https://aliesq.medium.com/extensive-research-women-initiate-domestic-violence-more-than-men-men-under-report-it-3bbaa4fbec9d

Feminists claim women were oppressed in early America, ignoring the many privileges afforded women which even some women acknowledged:

https://imgur.com/a/chJsMNw

Similarly, feminists claim no women could vote prior to 1920 when in fact there were women voting even in colonial America. Feminists claim Women couldn’t bank prior to the 1970s when in fact there were women only banks in the 1800s. The idea women were forbidden from working and couldn’t manage businesses is similarly just an outright lie.

The feminist group RAINN states the conviction rate for rape is incredibly low. In support of this they divide the number of alleged sexual assaults from their biased, agenda driven survey information and divide that by the number of convictions. The problem of course is this “stat” has absolutely nothing to do with actual criminal conviction rates.

Feminists claim the wage gap as measured by the BLS proves women are paid less for the same equal work. The wage gap of course doesn’t compare equal work, but is simply a comparison of what men earn on average be what women earn on average. Several studies show this difference is driven by different work choices. It is of course illegal under the equal pay act to pay women less for the same equal work.

It goes on and on. I pretty much count on the fact that when feminists provide a statistic or claim of female oppression, it’s probably an outright lie.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-01-15T18:40:18+00:00

The CDC shows there are more male victims of domestic violence than female victims

CDC Domestic Violence Data : r/MensRights

97% of Women Endorse Touching Unwilling Men Affectionately

97% of Women Endorse Touching Unwilling Men Affectionately : r/MensRights

REPORT: Men Sexually Harassed 83% as much as Women are

REPORT: Men Sexually Harassed 83% as much as Women are : r/MensRights

Rejected Women Sexually coerce MORE than Rejected Men do

Rejected Women Sexually coerce MORE than Rejected Men do : r/MensRights

This study shows women rape men 80% as often as men rape women.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353570309_On_the_Sexual_Assault_of_Men

Down_D_Stairz · 2025-01-15T16:36:22+00:00

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/jul/17/alarming-rise-in-female-inmates-must-be-addressed-womens-rights-summit-told

Apparently since 2000 the women incarceration rate went up by 60%, compared to the 22 % of men.

Looking at this it seems to me that the more we become egalitarian, the more women get "power" on a society level, they start to abuse it the same way the evil and patriarcal men in power do in their view.

To be fair i pulled this stat from a 2 minute research, i didnt read a lot beside the first few sentences.

The point is is that is not worth it. I've done it myself, put the proper time to do actual research, not a 2 minute read on a guardian article, and the result is the same.

You get blocked, banned or mocked, even when providing factual evidence, you will never get a proper argument or an admission of fault of any kind from the people you want to argue with. It's not worth your time.

walterwallcarpet · 2025-01-15T16:54:36+00:00

William Collins 'The Empathy Gap'. Over 700 exhaustively researched pages, chock full of statistics on all the sh*t that men must tolerate from 'the system', every day of their lives.

https://www.amazon.nl/-/en/William-Collins-ebook/dp/B0998VC9RY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3RBEXQMU7K21Y&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.eLJtC65WBLV55jlqg9mo_lrajI2HyyNjigZwGjS8boHxBnwtXDviIhF4ZBjmc8DL_4FPY6feKsEYZeIRNPwU3PKZXI66GSkn9tkoFleKhFX1HtHjItCqdNCvwZg3yyHmVTaFtWbIxtpf4MBa6w33goiODO5GuPGV5yrCdNE91fPV9f0P44ahsJ4hagSbhQfKqwFnPrXOY9nvpsB-eE3r24UJpcH-qCL_Cd6fRvBjAvEs81vO0yYYzXteOi9e0Wc4.DrWCla8TOmcx1MsWxhXlTkqdUHUrmqfnFArGya89gus&dib_tag=se&keywords=william+collins+empathy+gap&qid=1736960014&s=digital-text&sprefix=william+collins+empathy+gap%2Cdigital-text%2C1101&sr=1-1

throwaway1231697 · 2025-01-15T19:40:45+00:00

Female sexual offenders are more common than you think

Looking at data from the Center For Disease Control’s Survey, researchers found that in 2011 equal numbers of men and women reported being forced into non-consensual sex.

Similarly, the 2010 survey showed comparable results estimating that nearly 4.5 million men in the US had, at some stage in their lives, been forced to penetrate another person – and that in 79.2 per cent of cases, the perpetrator forcing the sexual act was a woman.

Most recently they pointed to a 2014 college study of 284 men and boys which found that 43 had been sexually coerced into unwanted intercourse, with 95 per cent of the perpetrators reported as being female.

(Study was published in 2017)

Nouvel_User · 2025-01-15T16:31:19+00:00

I can speak as a guy who was married to a cheater and dated women: it’s pathological hatred of men. A strong desire to play games with us and mess with our strong drives and desires - they know they can manipulate. There’s a desire to dominate us and obliterate our “privilege”. I have always been just straight and have zero attraction to men’s bodies or men’s parts. I now reject the entire framework now and exclusively meet regular friends with benefits: passable trans, femboys, and occasional completely smooth fem twinks in their early 20s.

Guys can say I’m degenerate idc. It’s easier less stress no expectations and I do nearly the same stuff I did with women with NO headaches and with complete ease to get it. Never once has one asked me to experiment with stuff I want no part of, with their male parts. They’re THANKFUL to do what my wife hated, and after we’re done they just leave. No fuss no muss. That’s a change lol

IceCorrect · 2025-01-15T19:50:05+00:00

Straight, lesbian and gay domestic abuse clearly shows that men are not the problem.

It's hard to give any clear stats, because universities pushing feminist narrative, so any one that would be against them would be unpublished.

AskingToFeminists · 2025-01-15T16:51:54+00:00

Personally im looking for stats that back up the fact that some women do just as much crimes

I am not sure that you will find that. It is very likely that men actually do more crime, but that is more due to men being more likely to find themselves in situations where crime is the best option forward than it is to be anything inherent in men.

Typically, it is expected of men to hold the role of provider and protector. Men without any legal opportunity therefore face a bigger pressure to be able to afford thing, which drives to crimes.

At the very least, in desperation, women have always thenoption of selling their bodies through prostitution, porn, OF, escorts,... which is a way to earn out of poverty that is not available to most desperate men.

Though you might point out that the same arguments that can be used against racists who claim that there is something inherently wrong with some races particularly involved in crimes are just as applicable when it comes to men.

stats about how often it is that women win custody cases solely because they are mothers.

Those can be tricky to get. One thing that annoys me to no end is when they say things like 90% of the men who ask for custody in court get it awarded by a judge. So that means the men who just settle outside of court just don't want their kids.

That is not how things work. The whole point of getting a lawyer is that they will advise you on what the court is likely to rule in your case, so that they may offer you the best outcome you are likely to get as a settlement, because courts are long, risky and very costly. Only the lawyers with the most confidence in a case will take it to a judge, so I would be very surprised if anything that was brought to civil court by a lawyer got below 50% win rates, even with the most biased court system. Because lawyers know the bias and will only let through the cases they judge likely to win.

It is a massive selection bias, to point at what goes to court to argue it is the current state of the law.

The current state of the law is actually found by looking at the settlements outside of courts. They are what happens when lawyers say to their clients "that is a good as you are going to get unless you are willing to pay my fees an absurd amount".

So, you want proof of the anti male bias in family court ? Just look at the current custody settlements. But many misandrists will argue in bad faith and refuse to recognise that.

Statistics about violence / discrimination against men.

Here you go for stats and info on DV

But be prepared to see them claim those stats are somehow not valid and engage in all.sorts of special pleading. Don't have too high an expectation when arguing with misandrists. Or with much of anyone. People rarely readily change their minds when confronted with arguments or stats.

You get better irl conversations with people by trying the socratic method, asking questions to guide their thinking and get them to present by themselves the reasons why their arguments are bad, avoiding on your part to present facts, data, counters or anything confrontational.

_WutzInAName_ · 2025-01-15T17:10:37+00:00

There are some really good findings in the links below that show how the official stats about crimes committed by women are significantly undercounted because of entrenched anti-male and pro-female bias in our legal system:

https://repository.law.umich.edu/law_econ_current/57/

https://quillette.com/2020/07/27/the-myth-of-pervasive-misogyny/

Here’s data about anti-male bias in education:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09645292.2023.2252620

Here’s an article about how the healthcare system is biased in favor of women and against men:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/08/27/men-health-crisis-gender-gaps/

2025-01-15T19:22:34+00:00

The biggest one I see that drives me mad is the “alimony only happens in 10% of divorces” that seemed so off to me so I researched and all I can find is an interview with a law professor from I want to say late 70s early 80s saying this. No studies nothing but they will use it to say alimony isn’t a thing. Tell that to the $65k I have to pay.

Nouvel_User · 2025-01-15T17:19:10+00:00

This is one of them: https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2024/womens-earnings-were-83-6-percent-of-mens-in-2023.htm

Adventurous_Design73 · 2025-01-15T17:20:06+00:00

r/MaleStudies

Adventurous_Design73 · 2025-01-15T17:21:49+00:00

also look up the tin man he has some statistical stuff u/TheTinMenBlog

dudester3 · 2025-01-15T22:07:16+00:00

This is an outrageously good thread!

Grand-Juggernaut6937 · 2025-01-17T16:51:23+00:00

The thing about feminism is they engage in systemic p-hacking.

There’s so much money in shitting on men that they can launch thousands of studies to prove anything they want. They have a thousand darts even though 99% of them are partisan drivel, 1% of them will identify solid science.

And feminists will drown you in shit papers based on their inch-high standards making it impossible to hold them accountable for anything. Every time you refute their argument, there’s another PhD with an agenda to make another claim. And academia is more than happy to side with them and encourage everyone to be casually misandrist.

But try to suggest that women may not be perfect after all, and you get $0 and kicked out of your lab. So even though feminists have plenty of valid statistics, the field is so warped in their favor it makes them worthless. Women’s studies probably has more false positive papers than men’s rights has total papers

Dee2Slimeyyy · 2025-01-16T01:50:50+00:00

I figured it out, You see they want us to become pedophiles I honeslty know now, because they want us to be lower than them, always want us to be whatever they went through, I done crack the cheat codes, they setting us up for project diddycon, it's always the good men that end up screwed jacked destroyed, tarnished, the despair for a man that has all his whole life aspects and dreams ahead of him, he'll, they literally stop us from getting a good girl by making sure the love of your life leaves and cheats, I experienced this sooo many times and they act like they are complete angles!!! Please blast this truth on complete blast, while they stop men from working, doing good things, their priorities and goals, omgd it's soo profound how they are the ones that literally set this up so they can take all the credit for everything they did is literally psychopathic at this point. And the set up for us to become destroyed by society. They use us like we are the slaves root cause, you wouldn't believe how bad they talk about us!!!! Everyday!!! Fuck that!!! And I'm sick of this shit!!! Enough is Enough!!!! Because they feminine they think they can say anything like oh the Man is weak blah blah they are crazy psychopathic manipulators. And us men are getting fed up. Not all men that end up on the short end of the stick are badd men, motherfuck them they can rot in hell at this point, because they think they are cats they can do anything and a men won't do anything, I'm soo sick of this when they are %70 of the cause and the root to the irradical behavior all because of what we love them and don't give them all the love family or not and what they do, become jealous!!! I seen it over and over many times, and as men we faced all of our problems head on all except them!!!! Because they make it seem like they are never in the wrong amd I'm completely underlying sick and fed up of this shit, they are messing up the way our children think as well, this shit is soo goddammit wicked!!! And I bet nobody gonna do shit about it, we this we that, all because a man has the power to change everybodys who's goddammit lives we work hard, we think outside of the box. And sometimes I'd rather not live then to be the peice of shit they created!!!!

Dee2Slimeyyy · 2025-01-16T02:17:44+00:00

That we are all pedophiles training it into our brains in our middle-age while stopping our relationships when they see our happiness. This shit is soo fd up, I can't believe this shit is real and happening, but for some reason they just don't wanna see us in a better relationship than them, happier than them, with somebody more beautiful than them. They was already insinuating just like whatever trauma they went through, this is trauma, the same trauma that causes confusion choas and failure thinking,. It's really badd and they are mischievous in covering up their bullshit, while men keep it 1000% all the way. The question is why don't they want men to be a man no matter what it is, and this shit is sickening men are getting decimated, especially when we as middle aged men have the blueprint. We get completely destroyed and by our own family specially women and then it be beta stepdads!!! Yooo I just can't rite now, this was all setup off the rip, women are the worst weapon they always using themselves as a weapon against us, and the good man, get hurt every single time, this is something that needs to be blasted blasted on mainstream, good men become victims to project diddycon and they good men they just been fucking hurt, and abandoned, and what do they do, they end up on pornhub, because a bitch is on super conceited oh I can't talk text back, all that shit, and that men heartbroken gets stuck on crazy to deal with his own feelings, and this has nothing to do with being addicted to sex, as men we are definitely not sex addicts. We just want love!!! And will you look at this shit!!! Now this is why good men just wake up and say fuck it, somebody gonna get hurt today, because when they've been hurt soo many fucking times, it's time to let out the true feelings, because oh we are left to just deal with it!!! Let's talk about the real shit, and put it on blast!!! We are dying every single day, and often and the women know I'm madd, but wanna see what I'm typing because they see I'm upset!!! But wanna blame me for every thing of nothing!!! Feminism!!! To make a big deal of nothing Feminism!!!! And then a Feminism ass Stepdad!!! Orchestrating Feministic ass thoughts when he's part of the cause of all this bullshit!!! He lucky I don't hit him in his face and went through it all because my momma love him!!! Old bich ass bich!!!! I'm fucking tired fuck!!! Enough is Enough!!! The good man!!! Become society monsters!!! Fuck that label! And fuck them all!!!! Love will get you fucked tf up!!!

rbw223 · 2025-01-16T03:41:37+00:00

The stats that are amended to fit a result.

South-Steak-7810 · 2025-01-17T00:09:49+00:00

Domestic Violence in heterosexual relationships.

“In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.”

Source: Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdfplus/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020

Title	What statistics are there for common arguments feminists like to use against us?
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97% of Women Endorse Touching Unwilling Men Affectionately

REPORT: Men Sexually Harassed 83% as much as Women are

Rejected Women Sexually coerce MORE than Rejected Men do