Where have all the men gone?

63daddy · 2022-08-29T12:22:19+00:00

Good men haven’t gone anywhere. Women having high expectations isn’t about a lack of good men and men are under no obligation to change to pander to women’s high desires.

I also find it ironic that society had purposely focused on girls and women in education and now complains women are finding it hard to marry up.

TheSnesLord · 2022-08-29T11:27:55+00:00

Treating all men as predators, encouraging MeToo false accusations, attacking and bashing men at every turn, making men walk on eggshells, discriminating against men in education, workforce, politics, law and government, woman setting ridiculous demands and standards when dating men, trending Misandry on social media, etc.

Women: "wHeRe HavE AlL tHe MeN gOnE"

which translates to:

"where are the handsome six foot plus six pack six figure salary Chads"

OnThatSigmaGrindset · 2022-08-29T10:55:03+00:00

agreed with the post. it's men that has to do the self improving because women are obviously perfect and wonderful creatures.

ExMuzzy · 2022-08-29T11:58:34+00:00

Feminists will ask men to lower their standards but also say that men have to meet women’s standards. Don’t lower your standards, being in a relationship you’re not happy in is way worse than being single.

MusicalMerlin1973 · 2022-08-29T12:06:59+00:00

I remember one coworker in his early thirties telling me about his then long in the rear view mirror honeymoon. They were sitting on the beach and she turns to him saying, let’s get one thing straight. I wear the pants. As long as you remember that we’ll be fine.

I’d have said come on let’s go. Go where? I believe there’s still time to anul this farce. Something I should have been told about the contract before I signed.

A marriage should be a partnership. Do I check in with my wife? Yeah I do. But here’s the thing: she checks in with me too. Neither of us make major decisions before running it by the other. Works pretty well.

In todays environment? Yeah, I’d nope out of pursuing a relationship with some woman if I weren’t married. Statistically not worth it. If for some reason my wife passes before me I know that the failure rate for second marriages exceeds that of first, and I’d already would have had a successful marriage. Why tempt fate?

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-08-29T13:24:10+00:00

My 25 year old son is not interested in getting married or having children. My nephew, 45, feels the same way. My son is starting a screen printing business. My nephew is an executive and now takes care of my uncle, his father, who he was alienated from by his mom.

We need to tell boys they don't need relationship as many are bad. Bad for men.

Worse we still say that a man does better in life with a good woman's support. Men don't need women either.

r7anubis · 2022-08-29T15:21:41+00:00

This is about Most Women, not ALL Women.

Women : I'm strong, independent, and I don't need Men.

Also Women : You better pay for the restaurant bill.

Also Women : You better hold that door open for me.

Also Women : You better pay for child support and alimony if we divorce.

Also Women : Why won't Men marry us anymore?

Also Women : Hate each other, and want a man in their life.

Women : We want equal rights, equal pay.

Also Women : Refuse to work as hard as men do. Or can't even work as hard.

Also Women : Where have all the men gone?

WhereProgressIsMade · 2022-08-29T16:02:56+00:00

If there were truly a shortage of good men on a wide scale, I think we would see this reflected in the data for age of each sex at the time of first marriage. Young women would respond to the shortage by trying to grab one sooner than later, pushing down the average age that women marry. Most likely we would see the age gap push higher as men tend to be better prospects as they age through their late 20s to late 30s as they establish a career and stable environment to be able to raise a family.

So far the age at first marriage keeps pushing higher, so if the above affect is there, it's being drown out by something else. The main thing is it seems like it's women's biological clock that finally kicks them in the ass and tells them to hurry up.

I married at 30 because I wanted to have a family and the risk was worth it to me since I'm convinced kids do best in a stable home with both parents. When I was making the decision to propose, I honestly felt no pressure at all with any kind of biological clock. I did try to be respectful to hers though and balance vetting with using up too much of her fertility window. It was mostly about figuring out if this was someone that had very high chance of having a good solid marriage with with minimal risk of things blowing up.

It took me a long time to find a woman who wasn't going to try to wear the pants in the relationship or use any of the SIGN methods to get her way but had actual communication and conflict resolution skills.

SIGN:

Shame
Insults
Guilt
Need to be right

Without that, they're not marriage material in my book. I thought I had a candidate with my first GF, but 9 months in she finally made a move to wear the pants. I put my foot down. She broke up. I don't know if I was supposed to be heartbroken or what but I don't think I even shed a tear. It was just relief that I hadn't gotten stuck in a marriage with her because the odds would have been so high that it would have been miserable.

Women need to learn how to have a cooperative relationship with a man like my wife and I have instead of a competitive and/or combative one. Mostly I see society push women toward the latter, so it's no surprise to me when men decide the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Morden013 · 2022-08-29T12:40:51+00:00

Good article and a very logical explanation - problem declaration, analysis and conclusion.

Since it is so logical, I doubt that any feminist will understand it.

Brandwein · 2022-08-29T16:01:53+00:00

Where have all the good women gone?

idkmyname1121 · 2022-08-29T12:56:42+00:00

Home

RealButterchu · 2022-08-29T15:35:50+00:00

And where are all the gods?

StinkyUsedHole · 2022-08-29T10:48:08+00:00

I'm right here baby

TRUCKBOB · 2022-08-30T03:13:00+00:00

the whole 'men vs women' thing has been completely socially engineered.

Training-Rich5057 · 2022-08-30T06:15:51+00:00

We are leaving impossible and undesirable women alone to themselves. We are choosing freedom from being enslaved. We are choosing to find our purpose and happiness in something other than women who have not earned our money, energy, attention, and time.

2022-08-29T11:11:32+00:00

Agree

LastSleep4274 · 2022-08-29T15:36:24+00:00

We've gone to find ourselves

-Soggy-Potato- · 2022-08-29T14:31:44+00:00

are people not realising the backwards values in this article? It’s very much the opposite of what the MRM should be giving a platform

“Women have made the transition to manhood rather nicely, while men are transitioning to womanhood… Women want to be like men, but men don’t want to be like women”

it’s reducing manhood to… being financially independent? being in the workforce? what a shallow and sexist standard

it’s just signalling at archaic and oppressive gender roles. men work and provide, women make a family, the type of attitude or standard that is so detrimental to men and womens rights alike. acting as if a women being independent is somehow masculine is so backwards.

VikingHunterr · 2022-08-29T10:10:21+00:00

Just more tradcon BS complaining that women are in the workforce.

"But who exactly does he marry if all these fantastic women are busy being men; toiling in the hard scrabble world of cubicles, meetings and text messaging? "

"woman-ing-up” is defined as getting a degree, dedicating her efforts to her career and delaying child birth until she finally quits hitting the snooze button on her biological clock"

Title	Where have all the men gone?
Author	rbrockway
Upvotes	55
Comments	58
Date	August 29, 2022 9:52 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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