Do guys hit "the wall"?

capt-next-a-hoe · 2015-05-18T23:17:47+00:00

Looks wise, yes.

SMV wise, they have more options to remain desirable.

exit_sandman · 2015-05-18T23:34:15+00:00

Counterquestion: Is there a specific point in the life of a man were suddenly he has to face harsh realities he wasn't really aware of before and knows that things go downwards from then on? Kinda like this?

127015 · 2015-05-18T23:15:02+00:00

Hitting the wall is a way to describe women's sexual value rapidly depreciating. Unfortunately for women, their sexual value depends almost entirely upon looks, which deteriorate with age. Men, on the other hand, adopt the physique of Greek gods once they hit 30 /s

The difference is that men's sexual value is less focused on the physical, and more on things such as status, money, power, confidence, etc. Things that generally increase as a man ages. So while his looks might be deteriorating as well, he can generally make up for it.

SirNemesis · 2015-05-18T23:13:51+00:00

No they just go over the hill.

haircombsnightmare · 2015-05-18T23:09:39+00:00

Everyone ages.

RareBlur · 2015-05-19T00:39:29+00:00

Hypothetically speaking, as we know from data moat people date with a range of their own age. Dating 10 years difference is a bit rare, it does happen but not as common.

acording to TRP theory it should play out like this: average guy is banging girls and dating casually though his 20's. Sleeping with other 20-some things who also have no issue with his lifestyle as they aren't looking for commitment either. Suddenly though he starts finding that the women arequired now starting to complain about his commitment Ideals. They don't want to just have sex anymore, they've hit the wall And are demanding commitment and family. Average guys pool of casual dates starts drying up as fewer and fewer women in dating range are still in interested in casual hook ups. He's not rich or famous his looks are Average.

He's going to hit a wall too. But maybe he's a MGTOW now after his casual hook ups dry up. He's bitter now and posts on the Internet looking for hope that he can still chase tail rather than face the realities of his situation.

Well, that's all hypothetical.

GuitarsAreGettingOld · 2015-05-18T23:59:07+00:00

Or do they remain forever really really ridiculously good-looking?

No, but they might become bulimic.

RU_Crazy · 2015-05-19T02:25:04+00:00

Women hit the wall or more aptly put fall off the cliff. Men climb over it.

That is to say woman are born with innate value just because they are women. Society values them for just existing. Men have to earn that value through achievements. To start out with they are worthless and most remain that way.

So to answer your question: most men never "hit the wall" because they never climb over it to begin with.

SerpOfZerk · 2015-05-19T03:04:43+00:00

Not really.

A man's value is not primarily attached to the attractiveness of his physical body

Which is why you see pretty girls with guys that aren't as "pretty"

TheGreasyPole · 2015-05-19T08:38:19+00:00

Yeah, it's not the same sharp cutoff as it is for women (driven by female menopause) but somewhere around the 50's it starts to bite, and then really bites as you hit the 60's.

I'd say by the time you're in your 40's the 20's market is getting closed off.

By the 50's the 30's market is closing.

BUT by the 60's the 40's AND the 50's market is closing to you.

Is there even a market in the 60's and 70's ? I don't think any RP guys have got that old yet.

strongalfalfa · 2015-05-19T03:48:36+00:00

I don't think there is any wall. I think its some construct TRP creates to convince men they have it better than the ladies.

Fuschia19 · 2015-05-18T23:34:03+00:00

guys are stronger so they break the wall when they hit it.

OfSpock · 2015-05-19T00:34:15+00:00

According to Dataclysm, they're done by 40. Even 40 year old women aren't interested. IMO, men run 2-5 years later than women which isn't surprising because they start/end puberty that much later.

goatismycopilot · 2015-05-19T12:28:07+00:00

Men hit the wall but they tend to be more deluded about their percieved attractiveness. I was average looking as a young woman and I am average looking as an older woman. The difference now is I dress better and go to the gym regularly and I do better now with dating when I was younger, largely because I figure my market is average looking men. I have a friend just a few years older than me who was super good looking as a young man, he was complaining about the "quality" of women he attracts because he still sees himself as that young hot dude when in reality he needs to lose 50 pounds and quit trying to cover up the bald spot. You have to be realistic.

cock_pussy_up · 2015-05-19T00:05:29+00:00

Women's attractiveness is judged based on youthful good looks. Its politically incorrect to say it, but everyone knows it.

Men's attractiveness is not judged so much on youthful good looks. So men have more potential to have high SMV when they're older.

I'm guessing gay guys prefer 20 yo guys, though.

crazydave1979 · 2015-05-19T01:51:57+00:00

No, but older men tend to get more overall respect and admiration

ECoast_Man · 2015-05-19T01:59:18+00:00

Not in the same way.

Men don't usually waste their prime years 'trying to find themselves' and then wake up one day and realize that they have eye bags, saggy tits, and the best women are looking at younger men. They age much more gradually than that.

But yeah, obviously they hit an age where their best years are behind them, but I wouldn't call that 'slamming into the wall'

adrixshadow · 2015-05-19T17:13:18+00:00

Guys climb mountains.

kick6 · 2015-05-19T17:56:25+00:00

Men's SMV eventually declines, but it is not nearly as abrupt a drop as is women's. The abruptness is why we call it "the wall" for women.

prodigy2throw · 2015-05-20T01:57:34+00:00

Some guys definitely hit a wall.

The club promoter who slays all day but is 35 and balding.

Guys who spend their whole paychecks clubbing and dressing well, not saving or investing in skills.

Guys who never invest in themselves, their future or self improvement.

I know lots of guys who are hooking up on a daily but they have a minimum wage job, abuse drugs and alcohol and don't have proper education or skills. These are usually the old pervy guys you see at Hooters or Tilted Kilt.

PetticoatRuled · 2015-05-18T23:19:14+00:00

There is no wall for anyone, so no.

Or do they remain forever really really ridiculously good-looking?

lol :)

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